CORONAVIRUS 2020: RHYTHM OF THE DEATH III

[chveik]

isn't the UK underreporting? I've seen talks of more than 50k deaths.

[Alberon]

True, but I think most countries, apart from Belgium, are doing the same.

[BlodwynPig]

isn't the UK underreporting? I've seen talks of more than 70k deaths.

ftfy

[steveh]

The reaction to so many deaths seems strangely muted. When people first started dying in Italy there were pictures of Italian newspapers with pages and pages of obituaries but there has been nothing like that here. With nearly 1 in 1,000 people living in the UK now dead on the excess deaths estimates - 1 in 10 from care homes - who these people were and the lives they led seems to have got almost no attention.

[confettiinmyhair]

It's been a very depersonalised pandemic. The numbers compute even less if you live in an area that has hardly been affected. I don't know if is because it's hard to make sense of death on such a scale. If a few hundred people die in a plane crash we don't tend to hear stories of those who passed. So I imagine it is even harder to tell the stories of the thousands who've died. The inquiry years down the line might give them a voice, who knows?

[Alberon]

The death toll rose by 359 today. Even the official figure with the lowest death rate will reach 40,000 by probably tomorrow. Hopefully that will bring some response from politicians and the media.

[Norton Canes]

So we're about a fifth of the way to the predicted 250,000 deaths from an attempt at herd immunity. Nice going.

[Zetetic]

isn't the UK underreporting? I've seen talks of more than 50k deaths.

Based on excess deaths? We've seen a decent spike in those with an "underlying cause" of dementia (and no mention of COVID-19 on the death certificate, or indeed any respiratory illness which is interesting). Some places more than others in the UK, for whatever reason.

I doubt this is a UK-specific phenomenon. Death certificates aren't magic anywhere.

[Zetetic]

Edit glitch fuck.

[Zetetic]

ONS have just said that they'll be publishing analysis of "excess deaths" tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/NickStripe_ONS/status/1268559361548435462

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

The reaction to so many deaths seems strangely muted. When people first started dying in Italy there were pictures of Italian newspapers with pages and pages of obituaries but there has been nothing like that here. With nearly 1 in 1,000 people living in the UK now dead on the excess deaths estimates - 1 in 10 from care homes - who these people were and the lives they led seems to have got almost no attention.

I find it quite striking too. The papers seemed to revel in the misery of other countries but when it reached the UK and took off it lasted about 10 days, after which they have done anything possible to find other things to talk about than the misery count.

I appreciate this is because lockdown is killing print media.

But to pass over 350 people a day dying, in sharp relief vs fewer deaths in the entire EU is negligent in the extreme.

[Zetetic]

ONS have just said that they'll be publishing analysis of "excess deaths" tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/NickStripe_ONS/status/1268559361548435462

https://twitter.com/NickStripe_ONS/status/1268823005305733125

[Fambo Number Mive]

R number above 1 in North West, near 1 elsewhere:
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/coronavirus-r-infection-number-now-18370275.amp

Will they have to delay opening non essential shops as a result?

[kalowski]

R number above 1 in North West, near 1 elsewhere:
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/coronavirus-r-infection-number-now-18370275.amp

Will they have to delay opening non essential shops as a result?

No. Just "move on" and get Covid done.

[BlodwynPig]

No. Just "move on" and get Covid done.

Precis. Deaths per day will be back up to 900-1000 by end of June

"We'll just have to accept this as the new norm. But here's a new yacht you've just bought the Queen!"

[olliebean]

Fuck - as I'm getting somewhat used to saying recently - sake. I thought I was relatively safe here, but:

London on 0.95 - a huge increase from its last value of 0.4

Something else for Johnson to be proud of.

[BlodwynPig]

Fuck - as I'm getting somewhat used to saying recently - sake. I thought I was relatively safe here, but:

Something else for Johnson to be proud of.

cut and paste

"surely the end for Johnson"

*moves to bin*

[chveik]

the whole purpose of the uk now is to make other european countries feel good about themselves

[Danger Man]

the whole purpose of the uk now is to make other european countries feel good about themselves

[BlodwynPig]

the whole purpose of the uk now is to make other european countries feel good about themselves

When I was growing up, Britain was known as the Dirty Man of Europe. Plus ça change.

[MrMrs]

No chance I believe London was 0.4.

[Ferris]

Eastern Canada declared 0 active cases.

*Ferris bangs on about his impending move to the coast*

[BlodwynPig]

Eastern Canada declared 0 active cases.

*Ferris bangs on about his impending move to the coast*

0 -> 3

[bgmnts]

The marketers have created a new term called "support bubble".

Politics is just buzzwords and phrases.

[Captain Z]

Can I row this support bubble across the channel to Calais?

[pancreas]

The marketers have created a new term called "support bubble".

Politics is just buzzwords and phrases.

New official name for a colostomy bag. PC gone mad.

[Sheffield Wednesday]

What coffee do you get someone who's on a ventilator because they've got coronavirus and you want to rub it in?

Venti Mocha

[Fambo Number Mive]

Raab by himself today. No scientists.

[olliebean]

Raab by himself today. No scientists.

I guess that means they can no longer find any scientists willing to back them up.

[BlodwynPig]

I guess that means they can no longer find any scientists willing to back them up.

Sacked them all.