"At Christmas I no more desire a rose Than wish a snow in May's new-fangled mirth; But like of each thing that in season grows."
Started by Abnormal Palm, April 19, 2020, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: Drygate on September 07, 2021, 05:58:32 PMFlorida seems to have peakedhttps://covidactnow.org/us/florida-fl/?s=22651188If a totally open state is over the hump, does that mean the worst is over for the US for now?
Quote@VincentRK·Sep 6Almost 25% of daily US COVID deaths are in Florida. This wave is striking because it is pretty hard to go above pre-vaccination waves. It's almost double. Thankfully has not happened in any other state. In fact, very few countries have had this happen either.
Quote from: jamiefairlie on September 08, 2021, 04:52:48 PMI blame Disney for making all the inhabitants think that everything's an elaborate illusion.
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on September 08, 2021, 10:03:39 PMUltimately what happens is there's an exposure because someone (who later tests positive) goes into a shop or a school or a church or whatever, and everyone there should get tested. Now, the recent UK and US response has been to basically say "nah let's not bother lol" but where I live, we still do that.I've been in the same place as someone who tested positive because I got an exposure notice. That person had to sanitize their hands and wear a mask because those were the rules we had (and still have) in place. As result, nobody from that exposure later tested positive, so a near miss but mitigated by basic actions that we've all agreed to take because we live in a society.Masking isn't my idea of a good time, but if (on a banal operational level) it means people end up with lower risk, then what's the big issue with it? Costs me fuck all to pop a mask on when I'm buying watermelons and brandy, but will lead to more positive outcomes such as the (real life) scenario I've outlined there.I do sometimes wonder if I'm taking crazy pills. Wear a mask, maybe it 'only' reduces cases by a meagre 10% - great, that has a direct and linear reduction on people dying on ventilators drowning in their own mucus.
Quote from: Drygate on September 09, 2021, 09:19:14 AMAye good points. But....some people don't spread covid as much as others. In my gym there was someone who tested positive (with symptoms later on) and they didn't spread it on to anyone there (at least as far as I know and not to me). We weren't wearing masks etc as per the rules. So I don't think it's as simple as saying if you come into close contact with someone who has it, you're going to get it.
QuoteSome things I've read that can affect who spreads it are BMI,
Quote from: Drygate on September 09, 2021, 09:19:14 AMAye good points. But....some people don't spread covid as much as others. In my gym there was someone who tested positive (with symptoms later on) and they didn't spread it on to anyone there (at least as far as I know and not to me). We weren't wearing masks etc as per the rules. So I don't think it's as simple as saying if you come into close contact with someone who has it, you're going to get it. I know a few families where one person in the household gets it with symptoms and the others don't get it. But then you get super spreader events where one person infects loads of people. Some things I've read that can affect who spreads it are BMI, where they are int the shedding cycle, age, what symptoms they have, viral load. (this article has some links on it) Due to that, I'm sure its possible to say that it was the precautions someone took that protected them.I'm not saying don't wear masks. But I do think there's a difference between wearing a mask when you pop into a shop or similar versus making kids wear them.
QuoteI'd be interested to see something that has studied that. There's no obvious mechanism.
Quote from: Uncle TechTip on September 09, 2021, 10:21:37 AMThere was something in the Groan yesterday, about a study in the Netherlands or somewhere, a deep analysis of how an infection spread at a certain event. It was found to be the air conditioning that did the most damage, people sat near the vents were most at risk of developing symptoms. But it also fleetingly mentioned, that regular smokers had a lower risk of infection, something i saw in the very early stages. Our lungs are so full of gunk, the virus can't take hold.
Quote from: Dex Sawash on September 09, 2021, 12:03:09 PMIs there some semi-plausible justification for the Florida cases reporting? What is the half-truth that covers for the big lie?
Quote from: Pranet on September 10, 2021, 12:11:55 PMAccording to worldometers, in the current wave Florida have gone over 300 deaths a day and Texas just reached 400 deaths a day, and California have yet to reach (in the current wave) 200 deaths a day, with a larger population than Florida or Texas.
Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 11, 2021, 08:42:07 AMAt the time of checking Florida didn't seem to have anything alarming in terms of deaths unless I really screwed up and clicked on Florida County, South Dakota**no such county***probably
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