Re-opening schools

[jobotic]

https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1261235717088346112?s=19

Wouldn't want any non-white children in that pic to upset their readers.

They knew that would come out , but like Gove's books, what you fucking gonna do about it? We run it all now.

[Brundle-Fly]

edi image won't post

[idunnosomename]

overpaid chief exec of a group of horrible goveian academies in "get back to work proles" shocker

[Pingers]

The monsters who run the one our lad goes to have spent more time using the school Twitter account to showcase their baking efforts as they become increasingly morbidly obese, than they have with setting school work. All on full pay from the public purse, natch. Hopefully some will have died of diabetes before the beginning of June.

[Huxleys Babkins]

They knew that would come out , but like Gove's books, what you fucking gonna do about it? We run it all now.

To be begrudgingly fair to them, it would be much harder to read the headline if the other kids weren't Photoshopped out.

[Sebastian Cobb]

To be begrudgingly fair to them, it would be much harder to read the headline if the other kids weren't Photoshopped out.

They could've put a 'light mask' on the children overlayed with the text or cropped them out in a way that that would still erase them (not ideal) but not involve them inventing a fictional scene with a fake wall in their place.

They could've found a different stock picture that represents the same thing, it's not a rarity.

[Twit 2]

de Souza is widely regarded as the most corrupt of all MAT cunts, and Inspiration are also regarded as the worst trust around, endless horror stories. She/they are everything wrong with the academy system.

[MinnieTimperley]

Do we make all this fuss when minimum wage supermarket check out girls/blokes turn into work day in day out even at the absolute height of the pandemic? As we are all too aware it is impossible even as a customer to social distance in Sainsburys let alone stock the shelves.

Schools are a fundamental fabric of successful society shouldn't they at least try to return?   

[Fambo Number Mive]

We have no alternative but to keep supermarkets open as there isn't the capacity to deliver online to all of the population. If the supermarket staff don't go into work, people will starve. Children's education is being affected, but no-one will die if schools are closed.

Also, supermarkets are mainly used by adults who can at least try to social distance. How good do you think people under 18 are at social distancing?

Schools also require people being in a room for a half hour/hour at a time for teaching, whereas grocery shopping doesn't. If classes were socially distanced, there would be less than a dozen children in each room and I don't know how they would find the space.

Also, just because some key workers have to keep going into work and risking their lives doesn't mean it's ok for others to. Teachers don't all have cars or bikes and not all children cycle or can be dropped at school by car. Many will have to use public transport.

[Abnormal Palm]

KAWASAKI FUCKDOWN

[Fambo Number Mive]

The BMA are in full support of teachers concerned at the government's plans: https://twitter.com/TheBMA/status/1261281483106508801

[MinnieTimperley]

We have no alternative but to keep supermarkets open as there isn't the capacity to deliver online to all of the population. If the supermarket staff don't go into work, people will starve. Children's education is being affected, but no-one will die if schools are closed.

Also, supermarkets are mainly used by adults who can at least try to social distance. How good do you think people under 18 are at social distancing?

Schools also require people being in a room for a half hour/hour at a time for teaching, whereas grocery shopping doesn't. If classes were socially distanced, there would be less than a dozen children in each room and I don't know how they would find the space.

Also, just because some key workers have to keep going into work and risking their lives doesn't mean it's ok for others to. Teachers don't all have cars or bikes and not all children cycle or can be dropped at school by car. Many will have to use public transport.

Some good points  carry on.

[jobotic]

If some people are in danger the way to help them is to put more people in danger.

But not me.

[Albert Soviets]

Some good points  carry on.

There are a few other things. It's probably hair splitting to many but the schools aren't "re-opening" because they never closed. I've just returned from work at a Primary School today. The schools are only open for key worker and vulnerable children but they're still open. What's my point? Well firstly, social distance in my school, with 17 children is a nightmare. We do our best, they do our best but it's not effective. At full capacity, the difficulties are hugely magnified.

The other point I would make is that schools are not just full of teachers and children. I'm not a teacher myself. Along with TAs, cleaning staff, catering staff, the site manager, midday staff, breakfast and after school clubs, onsite behaviour specialists, family workers, visiting sports coaches, speech therapists, governers and so on. The teacher may be an avatar of the education system but they don't do it alone and there's a lot of people to keep safe as well as the children, which is what we are there for. Keeping the children and ourselves safe on June first and beyond is a massive task, which our school has planned for but children, being as they are, are unpredictable.

So yes, we are all worried. Speaking to people today, all of us want to get back to normal, I've been doing so much bloody online CPD at home I'm sick of it. We're all deeply worried about those children who don't access the home learning, who may be locked in with their abusers 24 hours a day and a million other things. I can't speak for every education worker, but it hasn't felt like a holiday for me I can tell you that much. And for myself I'm willing to back to work in June. Not because of that hay headed idiot, but yes because of the children. But is a massive undertaking and lots of us are anxious about it.

[Twit 2]

Yep.

[MinnieTimperley]

There are a few other things. It's probably hair splitting to many but the schools aren't "re-opening" because they never closed. I've just returned from work at a Primary School today. The schools are only open for key worker and vulnerable children but they're still open. What's my point? Well firstly, social distance in my school, with 17 children is a nightmare. We do our best, they do our best but it's not effective. At full capacity, the difficulties are hugely magnified.

The other point I would make is that schools are not just full of teachers and children. I'm not a teacher myself. Along with TAs, cleaning staff, catering staff, the site manager, midday staff, breakfast and after school clubs, onsite behaviour specialists, family workers, visiting sports coaches, speech therapists, governers and so on. The teacher may be an avatar of the education system but they don't do it alone and there's a lot of people to keep safe as well as the children, which is what we are there for. Keeping the children and ourselves safe on June first and beyond is a massive task, which our school has planned for but children, being as they are, are unpredictable.

So yes, we are all worried. Speaking to people today, all of us want to get back to normal, I've been doing so much bloody online CPD at home I'm sick of it. We're all deeply worried about those children who don't access the home learning, who may be locked in with their abusers 24 hours a day and a million other things. I can't speak for every education worker, but it hasn't felt like a holiday for me I can tell you that much. And for myself I'm willing to back to work in June. Not because of that hay headed idiot, but yes because of the children. But is a massive undertaking and lots of us are anxious about it.

I understand and thank you for making it so succinct. Thank you and good luck

[Pingers]

Do we make all this fuss when minimum wage supermarket check out girls/blokes turn into work day in day out even at the absolute height of the pandemic? As we are all too aware it is impossible even as a customer to social distance in Sainsburys let alone stock the shelves.

Schools are a fundamental fabric of successful society shouldn't they at least try to return?

I take your point, but in primary school a lot of what they are missing is rote learning of things that will all be done by machines by the time they leave school, so I don't think we need to worry too much.

[MinnieTimperley]

I take your point, but in primary school a lot of what they are missing is rote learning of things that will all be done by machines by the time they leave school, so I don't think we need to worry too much.

Learning of social.skills is anything but rote learning

[Sebastian Cobb]

If it goes on for long enough just knock them down a year. The natural (I say 'natural' - obviously this is linked to a child's environment and socio-economic group a lot of the time) distribution of aptitude will plaster over the cracks.

[Pingers]

Learning of social.skills is anything but rote learning

Yeah I'm not saying they don't learn things, of course they do, but the national curriculum is shit so if people want to improve prospects for kids in England there are more fundamental problems than missing another 6 weeks of school. If it's fine to spend hours and hours learning times tables by heart and using fronted adverbials then it's fine to stay home for another 6 weeks for most kids.

[Sebastian Cobb]

When I was in primary school they used to say 'you won't always have a calculator in your pocket*'. The joke's on them, they're probably mostly dead now.

*information that was dated then, given casio had managed to mass produce affordable calculator watches.

[Pingers]

I don't want to give the impression that I'm anti-learning, because I'm not. And I worry about the vulnerable children who are not being seen by teachers. But the R rate in Yorkshire is double what it is in London and it's not safe to go back yet, as confirmed by the BMA.

[Fambo Number Mive]

According to the children's commissioner, the unions and government are "squabbling". Describing unions trying to keep teachers, children and the families safe from covid as "squabbling" is disgraceful.

[idunnosomename]

BLAIRITE SCUM KILL THEM

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/1261633870442700800?s=19

[jobotic]

"If you really cared about the children" you'd go back to work.

There are none more loathsome than Gove, our next Prime Minister, are there?

[Fambo Number Mive]

Funny how Tories are suddenly pretending to care about the mental health of children given the cuts to mental health services since 2010.

[idunnosomename]

FUNNY HOW THE TORIES FOLLOW WHATEVER THEIR EXCEEDINGLY WEALTHY DONORS WANT HMM HMM *STROKES CHIN* HMMM!!! CHINNY CHIN CHIN CHINNY RECKON!!! AUUUGH!

[dissolute ocelot]

On the other hand there's a thing I keep seeing on social media saying "Why are state schools going back but Eton and Harrow aren't!!!???"? One reason being that Eton and Harrow are for pupils aged 13 and over, and it's only primary schools that are going back in June.

[idunnosomename]

All the eton students should go in a big grave

[Albert Soviets]

"If you really cared about the children" you'd go back to work.

There are none more loathsome than Gove, our next Prime Minister, are there?

I'd like to drag Gove by his fucking Gove face to my school and show him the people  WHO ARE AT FUCKING WORK. Who do you think is teaching the fucking vulnerable kids, eh? The fucking Oompa fucking Loompas? Who's that bloke there, eh? He's the site manager, two years off retirement, in EVERY FUCKING DAY making sure the school is clean. There's his wife doing the same. were you in your place of work every day? Were you fuck.

King of the cunts.