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NoSleep

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Re: Drone
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2020, 04:37:20 PM »

I spent the time at home sorting through all my mp3 collection. I've discovered that the drone stuff is the stuff that's held my interest the most, of all the re-listens - I can't listen to (song from random band who John Peel loved) any more, but I'll happily play "The Well-Tuned Piano" all the way through.


Have you heard/seen the DVD performance (Marian Zazeela also gets credited for the filming and the stage setting) of The Well-Tuned Piano In The Magenta Lights? It runs a further hour longer than the CD version and is different enough (recognisably the same piece but it's built on the improvisation skills of Young in both versions) to warrant tracking it down.

Famous Mortimer

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Re: Drone
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2020, 07:26:49 PM »
I just looked it up, and $90? But no, I haven't, so I'll go and track it down now. Cheers NS!

chveik

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Re: Drone
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2020, 12:08:48 AM »
how about Yellow Swans? they were incredible at times

True Union

Re: Drone
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2020, 02:48:11 PM »
Keiji Haino

The 21st Century Hard-Y-Guide-Y Man: Even Now, Still I Think (1998)



The 21st Century Hard-Y-Guide-Y Man: こいつから失せたいためのはかりごと (2008)



Untitled 1
Untitled 2
Untitled 4
Untitled 5

Liner notes from 2008 - click to enlarge


This is the first hurdy gurdy record sorrowfully without a musical link:

The 21st Century Hard-Y-Guide-Y Man: 手風琴 (1995)



This record using a tone generator was released in between the first two hurdy gurdy records:

So, Black is Myself (1997) Wisdom that will bless I, who live in the spiral joy born at the utter end of a black prayer.



I would recommend Even Now, Still I Think and So, Black is Myself equally.

This is a more recent collaboration with the Japanese sitaar ensemble, Sitaar Tah; Keiji Haino is credited as playing the voice, flute, lute [electric tanbur], rhythm box, hurdy gurdy [electric hurdy-gurdy], and shruti box [electric sruthi-box] and the Dube:

Keiji Haino & Sitaar Tah! ‎– Animamima (2006)



Google translates the hurdy gurdy subtitles as "Hand Harp" (1995) and  "A scale to lose from this guy" (2008).

Famous Mortimer

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Re: Drone
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2020, 03:40:36 PM »
I used to love Keiji Haino's stuff, but haven't listened to him in a while. That "So, Black Is Myself" is a belter though.

One of the musicians who I was vaguely aware of but hadn't played much by was Mike Shiflet. He was a former member of Burning Star Core, who I love but are more on the noise side of things, and while he's definitely more in that world, his most recent project would appeal to drone fans, I think.

Tetracosa is 24 hours long, and is made up of 350 different "sound objects" - things he recorded or captured himself - spliced together with the aid of random number generation (although I'm sure there was at least some method to the layering of the various pieces. There's some lovely drone sections in it, and it's really interesting altogether.

https://mikeshiflet.bandcamp.com/album/tetracosa-volume-one

Also, not sure if this qualifies but is fun anyway - V/Vm did "The Death Of Rave" in 2006 or so, and with it all being slowed down past the point of recognisability, there's lots of lovely droney bits in there. You can still, I think, get it from here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20071026031251/http://brainwashed.com/vvm/micro/vukzid/vukzid01.htm

Not really intended as drone, I suppose.

I've played that John Cale record (which I was completely unaware of until yesterday, shame on me) several times now. It's fantastic.

Re: Drone
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2020, 07:47:54 PM »
Yeh get back into Keiji Haino; he's released a lot of collaborative music in the last few years. Thanks for the recommendations in the last few posts.

Glad you like the John Cale collection. The Tony Conrad: Early Minimalism compilation is a good companion though I suspect you've listened to these:

Tony Conrad

Early Minimalism



Four Violins (1964)
April 1965 (1965)

Inside the Dream Syndicate: Day of Niagara (Cale, Conrad, Maclise, Young, Zazeela) (1965)



Outside The Dream Syndicate - Tony Conrad & Faust (1973)


Re: Drone
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2020, 05:28:16 PM »
Studio der frühen Musik: Thomas Binkley, Andrea von Ramm

Minnesang und Spruchdichtung um 1200-1320 (1966)



Loibere Risen - Wizlaw von Rügen

Chansons der Troubadours (Lieder und Spielmusik aus dem 12. Jahrhunderts) (1970)



Leu Chansonet' E Vil - Giraut de Bornelh

Chansons der Trouvères (Lieder Des 13. Jahrhunderts) (1974)



Chanterai Por Mon Coraige - Guiot de Dijon

Planctus Jeptha / Planctus David (1974)



Planctus David - Peter Abelard

Minnesänger & Meistersinger - Lieder um Konrad von Würzburg (1987)



Nun ist niht mêre min gedinge - Rudolf von Fenis


sardines

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Re: Drone
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2020, 09:42:57 PM »
Already touched on elsewhere but I must have listened to this Kali Malone mix at least once a week since it was aired.

https://www.nts.live/shows/guests/episodes/kali-malone-24th-march-2020

chveik

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Re: Drone
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2020, 09:52:33 PM »
Studio der frühen Musik: Thomas Binkley, Andrea von Ramm

this is interesting. it made me think of Nico.

Re: Drone
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2020, 10:18:47 PM »
Already touched on elsewhere but I must have listened to this Kali Malone mix at least once a week since it was aired.

https://www.nts.live/shows/guests/episodes/kali-malone-24th-march-2020

Whereas me, I been playing this

https://www.nts.live/shows/guests/episodes/kali-malone-31st-may-2019


Re: Drone
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2020, 11:38:04 PM »
this is interesting. it made me think of Nico.

There are a few song centred Studio der Frühen Musik albums on youtube:
Troubadours & trouvères
Songs by Francesco Landini

I've been trying to find more German medieval songs with the very simple musical accompaniment as in "Loibere Risen". Other good groups from the early music revival include Pro Musica Antiqua and David Munrow's Consort of London (especially for polyphonic music from the school of Notre Dame linked to below as appropriate for the thread) but Studio der Frühen Musik stand out as a link between early music and various modern experimental music.

Léonin: Organum duplum: Judaea et Jerusalem / Pérotin: Organum quadruplum

This one begins with Léonin and Pérotin and goes chronologically from the Notre Dame school through two later periods of Gothic music:
Music Of The Gothic Era: The Early Music Consort Of London: David Munrow


Kali Maloneheads: did you get the organ rehearsal tapes that were digitally available for one day only on bandcamp day at the start of the month? If not, they might be available somewhere or officially again next bandcamp day.

Re: Drone
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2020, 12:15:22 AM »
This is a fantastic thread. Thanks Smeraldina

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Re: Drone
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2020, 01:04:04 PM »
Kali Maloneheads: did you get the organ rehearsal tapes that were digitally available for one day only on bandcamp day at the start of the month? If not, they might be available somewhere or officially again next bandcamp day.
Yes I did, and they're grand.

I finally bought some proper speakers for my PC, working from home and blah blah blah, and one of the first songs I played to see what they're like was "A Trombone Piece" by Phill Niblock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHy_PjDsAQ

He took trombone sounds, but removed the attack and decay, then did all sorts of layering and stretching with what was left.

chveik

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Re: Drone
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2020, 03:15:49 PM »
This is a fantastic thread. Thanks Smeraldina

yep cheers SR!

sardines

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Re: Drone
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2020, 07:09:53 PM »
There is a trend with the older guys to only focus on the era-defining work and forget that they are/were active musicians. The below release from a few years ago comes off the back of a few absurdly good European shows.

Charlemagne Palestine/Tony Conrad - An Aural Symbiotic Mystery

Re: Drone
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2020, 01:19:28 AM »
Alvin Lucier

This is my favourite of Alvin Lucier's recent releases on Black Truffle that I've heard, with Oren Ambarchi and Stephen O'Malley playing electric guitars. They are accompanied by other instruments on "Hanover", a tribute to Lucier's father, whose jazz band is shown on the cover:

Criss Cross / Hanover (2018)



Other recent and forthcoming releases with new music:
https://boomkat.com/products/so-you-hermes-orpheus-eurydice (2018)
https://boomkat.com/products/ricochet-lady (2019)
https://imprec.bandcamp.com/album/chamber-music-alvin-lucier-morton-feldman (2019)
https://boomkat.com/products/string-noise (2020)
https://boomkat.com/products/works-for-the-ever-present-orchestra (2020)


Panorama (1993) Click to enlarge



Tribute to James Tenney (for double bass and pure wave oscillator) (1986) ; James Tenney - Saxony (1978)

Music on a Long Thin Wire (1980)





Ellen Fullman

Ellen Fullman - The Long String Instrument (1985)



Ellen Fullman & Okkyung Lee – The Air Around Her (2016)



In the Sea (2020)



In the Sea
Staggered Stasis
Work for Four Players and Ninety Strings

Ellen Fullman - In the Sea thread

Re: Drone
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2020, 08:05:07 PM »
Anfang der 70er Jahre

A small post for some of the gentler German music from the early 1970s that I group together in my head.

Neu!



Neu! (1972)
Weissensee
Im Glück

These are the end of side A and beginning of side B.

Faust




Faust IV (1973)
Krautrock
Läuft...Heisst Das Es Läuft Oder Es Kommt Bald....Läuft

You have to wait until the end of the second one, when it goes into a track sometimes titled separately as "Run".

Patchwork 1971-2002
Drone Organ (1973/4)


Kraftwerk




Kraftwerk (1970)
Megaherz

Kraftwerk 2 (1972)
Harmonika

Ralf & Florian (1973)
Heimatklänge

Wunderschön.

Famous Mortimer

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Re: Drone
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2020, 02:58:09 AM »
The "Slay At Home" metal festival is going on at the moment, and one of the acts is Roy Mayorga, apparently of Stone Sour. He does a long, rather good, drone thing, which didn't seem to fit with the other bands but I liked a lot.

https://youtu.be/S2ClyUJ11DA

Starts at about 1:10.


Re: Drone
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2020, 07:08:18 PM »
Richard Youngs - Ein Klein Nein
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Mysterious and minimal instrumental album by Richard, dreamt at home and recorded quickly in Glasgow's Green Door Studio. Centered on a single piano chord and bare snare strikes, Richard builds a haunting atmosphere in 4 episodes, featuring his guitar, organ, harmonica, and voice.

Famous Mortimer

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Re: Drone
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2020, 09:14:52 PM »
It's more minimalist than drone, I'd have thought? Am I splitting a hair where none exists? It's very good, all the same.

sardines

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Re: Drone
« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2020, 09:31:18 PM »


Lovely  radioshow put together by Jennifer Lucy Allen (Wire reviewer) about foghorn.

Sin Agog

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Re: Drone
« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2020, 09:47:26 PM »
One of the more consciousness-shiftingly repetitive releases I know is The Mask of the Imperial Family (1981), a big influence on Yamatsuka Eye, along with the band Juke-19.  Wouldn't be surprised if all of them cite Karuna Khyal/Brast Burn as the Ur-spring of that particular sound.

Re: Drone
« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2020, 11:06:27 PM »
Thanks for those recommendations, Sin Agog. I wrote out a post asking which ones your parents were with Richard Madeley but backed out of it.

Lovely  radioshow put together by Jennifer Lucy Allen (Wire reviewer) about foghorn.

Thanks. There was a fog horn thing in Anti-Gravity Bunny's Top 27 Drone Records of 2019:

Fog Horns by Félix Blume
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French sound artist Félix Blume keeps pushing the boundaries of field recordings for our enjoyment. “Fog Horns” captures the sounds of boat horns in Piraeus, Athens, Greece, the port city that serves some of the most important ferry routes in Greece nowadays.

It's more minimalist than drone, I'd have thought? Am I splitting a hair where none exists? It's very good, all the same.

This is not a Lament might be a better one for the thread.

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Scotland’s bonniest indie/noise experimentalist pays homage to the divine discordance of Pibroch - the art music of Scottish Highlands bagpipers - along with a bunch of esteemed pals; Alasdair Roberts, Oren Ambarchi, Simon Wickham-Smith, Neil Campbell, Norifumi Shimogawa. Ideally you should cop this and head as far north as your clogs will take you before listening for full immersion.

Kinning Park - Richard Youngs/ Alasdair Roberts (feat. Donald WG Lindsay)

I was wondering whether or not it would be appropriate to include Ivor Cutler in this thread.

This is a bit about music in A Nice wee present from Scotland:
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FRANZ LISZT & ART TATUM

What is called pleasure from music is a built-up relief that the notes keep changing pitch. A sustained note sets up a sympathetic vibration on the tympanum, and a headache. e.g. an airship. The bag-pipe says, "enjoy the melody, but pay for the drone." This is seen, in Scotland, as just.

It follows that the two most social composers are Franz Liszt and Art Tatum.

Beautiful Cosmos
I'm Going in a Field
I'm Walking to a Farm
Shoplifters

A dirge: There's a Turtle in my Soup

Sin Agog

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Re: Drone
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2020, 11:36:32 PM »
Haha, I'm not ashamed of having clowns in my blood!  They were the ones teaching Madeley to juggle earlier on and then juggling themselves on the floaty foam Blighty a little bit later.  My favourite thing they ever did in their '90s TV career, however, was when they appeared as magical juggling fairy types in the episode of Lovejoy where he came down to Brighton.

And no probs!  Maybe those albums are more occultish weirdo Japanese proto-industrial experiments than standard Drone, but I love them nevertheless.  That Karuna Khyal album was my favourite thing on Julian Cope's Japrocksampler list after Les Rallizes Denudes and Magical Power Mako.  It's been over forty years since it was privately pressed (along with Brast Burn), and still no one has the foggiest idea who made them.

Re: Drone
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2020, 07:53:02 PM »
I had been concentrating on the audience members who had a go at the start and then stopped watching. This is much better. Was worried about seeming to be asking for wanking material; no clown hate.

Re: Drone
« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2020, 11:34:17 PM »
Gilius van Bergejik

The third part of this is droney with a lovely noise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfo4GztP13E

Anyone know much about this guy? Think this is the place to ask. I love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAwo3f_-Fg8


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