Glinner Posts Mortem: Dying on Transphobia Hill 4: The (g)Room(er)

[idunnosomename]

He doesn't really go on about the solution but it does genuinely appear to be an othering "transpeople toilet" if you look at his pet trans friend Debbie's discourse. Maybe the disabled? It's all worth it to protect women, lesbians and young girls!!!

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

becoming a 'fake' woman seems like a lot of effort just to perv on nudey girls

It seems like a very efficient way of getting your head kicked in though.

[here4glinner]

He doesn't really go on about the solution but it does genuinely appear to be an othering "transpeople toilet" if you look at his pet trans friend Debbie's discourse. Maybe the disabled? It's all worth it to protect women, lesbians and young girls!!!

yeah, my understanding of the terf position is that everyone is allowed to use the men's toilets / prisons / changing rooms / etc, including trans men and trans women, but only cis women are allowed to use the ladies' toilets. The logic is that men do not need protecting. If trans women will be at undue risk from using men's spaces, then there should be either some unisex space, or the terf doesn't care about the risks posed by trans women.

There's also a lot of disagreement on whether post-op trans women can use the ladies' facilities or not. I believe Helen Staniland draws the line at post-op. Seems to me like this might encourage people to undergo surgery who might otherwise be content without surgery.

[QDRPHNC]

I think you need to have some capacity for empathy to see the situation from the other side, then exaggerate those views in an absurd fashion. Obviously Glinner's empathy gland dried up years ago.

Sorry to go back to this well, but I think part of it is also the deep-seated loathing of the other side which may be engendered by social media. It's not that you have bad opinions, it's that, if you believe this you are a bad person.

I think good satire (as opposed to say, Prick News Penis News... you know, just taking a typical thing a TERF might say on Twitter and photoshopping it into a headline) has a element of truth to it which even the people you're satirizing can't help but recognize and - unless they're totally po-faced - laugh at. Like, I'm sure Brass Eye gave a few laughs of recognition to the very people it was taking the piss out of, even as it sometimes viciously dismantled the tropes of their industry.

But there can't be even the slimmest solidarity with the other side, because they're bad people. So the humour, such as it is, is just pointing and laughing and being as insulting as possible.

Ok, I'll stop going on about this now cheers.

[phantom_power]

That is one of his biggest flaws for me. People who disagree with him don't just have a contrary opinion. They aren't even merely fundamentally wrong. They are fundamentally wrong and the reason they are wrong is because they are evil and hate women and don't care if they are raped. It is such an extreme position to take, even in the realm of extreme positions where TERFs live

[Old Gold Tooth]

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1263762106102566914

"Cleared out the chaff"

Ah so haemorrhaging followers was intentional, got it, good work Glin!

He can't wait til it's just him and Sian against the world.

[here4glinner]

That is one of his biggest flaws for me. People who disagree with him don't just have a contrary opinion. They aren't even merely fundamentally wrong. They are fundamentally wrong and the reason they are wrong is because they are evil and hate women and don't care if they are raped. It is such an extreme position to take, even in the realm of extreme positions where TERFs live

That's what happens when people become fundamentalists. He's driven by ideology more than rationality. Everything is reinterpreted to fit his ideology. There's quite obviously room for shades of grey in this issue but for him, if it's not black and white, and you're not on his side, then you're a terrible person. For instance, if you think Paris Lees is probably okay to pee where she wants - in fact if you just call her 'she' - then he would view you as a groomer, i.e. an imminent threat to children.

[idunnosomename]

Obsessing over teaching of trans issues in schools when the schools arent even open. And there is the imminent threat of them opening when it unsafe despite a global pandemic of a virus that causes severe respiratory issues because of political lobbying.

incredible.

[chveik]

is he even aware that there's a pandemic?

[Old Gold Tooth]

A pandemic of knobs in places he doesn't like, for sure. All other social issues irrelevant.

[idunnosomename]

is he even aware that there's a pandemic?

i suspect he forgets about it for longer periods than anyone else except the extremely elderly, and babies

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

is he even aware that there's a pandemic?

He's buried in his phone 20 hours a day, what difference does the pandemic make?

[damien]

Picked on the wrong guy today it seems. Nice to see his 'assistant' popping up again.

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1263778666020044801

[Armin Meiwes]

Picked on the wrong guy today it seems. Nice to see his 'assistant' popping up again.

https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1263778666020044801

Christ! Everyone's a paedo in glinner-world aren't they.

[damien]

I know right? He sounds like he's actually panicking a bit there, hastily deleted the tweet/s.

[Alberon]

I know right? He sounds like he's actually panicking a bit there, hastily deleted the tweet/s.

Doesn't want to lose his twitter access again.

[ImmaculateClump]

Haha! Typical bully behaviour, fills his kecks as soon as someone shows their teeth.
"Woah! Sorry mate, thought you were weak and vulnerable. Didn't realise you were one of the lads. No hard feelings, yeah?"
I don't think he'd care about being sued into the ground and losing his house, it'll be more the traumatic memory of the recent time out on the twitter naughty step that's got him tugging his forelock.

[Old Gold Tooth]

I think he panicked cos if he really did obtain and pass on someone's private number, he's fucked.
A visit from the police on his birthday!

[QDRPHNC]

"Bully" is all he is at this point.

[chrispmartha]

yeah, my understanding of the terf position is that everyone is allowed to use the men's toilets / prisons / changing rooms / etc, including trans men and trans women, but only cis women are allowed to use the ladies' toilets. The logic is that men do not need protecting. If trans women will be at undue risk from using men's spaces, then there should be either some unisex space, or the terf doesn't care about the risks posed by trans women.

There's also a lot of disagreement on whether post-op trans women can use the ladies' facilities or not. I believe Helen Staniland draws the line at post-op. Seems to me like this might encourage people to undergo surgery who might otherwise be content without surgery.

But this literally makes no sense because presuming they see women that have transitioned to Men still as women so using their logic they shouldn't be allowed to use the mens because they think women need protecting from Men.

[here4glinner]

But this literally makes no sense because presuming they see women that have transitioned to Men still as women so using their logic they shouldn't be allowed to use the mens because they think women need protecting from Men.

I never said it makes sense! I think the whole foundations of terfism are really shaky. If men are biologically dangerous, then puberty blockers are a public safety measure. If men are dangerous because of socialising, then raising men as women is a public safety measure. The closest I've come to an answer to this discrepancy is that 'sterilising kids isn't the answer'. Which is a very 'your purpose in life is to have a womb' view of feminism. And the whole 'men are inherently different than women' seems anti-feminist too, it seems like it could uphold patriarchy.

[Jumblegraws]

If he has an assistant why didn't he get them to buy him that cheese grater?

[Cold Meat Platter]

"Lyyn! Lynn! I've eaten rather a lot of Carbonara."

[Ambient Sheep]

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/05/17/terf-gender-critical-feminism-movement-lesbian-cult-amy-dyess-transphobia/

Interesting Pink News article here about the Gender Critical "cult". Based on everything we've seen from Glinner it certainly checks out.

My attention's just been drawn to the fact that Julie Bindel apparently outed herself on Twitter as the "British lesbian [who] even promised to find Amy a wife, so she could stay in the UK and galvanise the struggling gender-critical movement here".

The original tweet is here, but for those people on a blocklist there's a screenshot of it here (followed by some absolutely incredible screenshots of other TERFs taking the piss out of Amy and the whole situation).

[chrispmartha]

I never said it makes sense! I think the whole foundations of terfism are really shaky. If men are biologically dangerous, then puberty blockers are a public safety measure. If men are dangerous because of socialising, then raising men as women is a public safety measure. The closest I've come to an answer to this discrepancy is that 'sterilising kids isn't the answer'. Which is a very 'your purpose in life is to have a womb' view of feminism. And the whole 'men are inherently different than women' seems anti-feminist too, it seems like it could uphold patriarchy.

Sorry wasn't accusing you of making no sense :-)

[idunnosomename]

lmao

That faircop thing badges itself about freespeech generally but its mostly about being able to be rude to transgender people

https://www.faircop.org.uk/

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

lmao

That faircop thing badges itself about freespeech generally but its mostly about being able to be rude to transgender people

https://www.faircop.org.uk/

Look at the descriptions. Why, this person innocently said the wrong word and was cautioned by police, yeah right.

[king_tubby]

These days.

[damien]

oof

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/may/27/graham-linehan-twitter-has-made-me

[king_tubby]

The IT Crowd (a huge hit with the IT-support workers it portrays)

IT support worker here.

No.