Author Topic: Will Franken vs the Comedy Unleashed/"anti-woke" grifting dickbags [split topic]  (Read 2367 times)

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He's a different sort of right wing, because he's calling out other right wing guys?

I think it's clear that he has special privileges, like Sadowitz does, because he's just that talented (the voices, the absurd imagination and satirical insight). And - yes - it does show integrity to call out Young and the Triggernometry people so hard, and alienate oneself from them so thoroughly, when you could very well profit from the trend instead.

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BTW I just went through this with a big grin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHllZkHpsbY
THE COMEDY PODCAST: EPISODE 666

the first episode of this was making fun of Californian comedians' podcasts, but this episode, as usual, runs the original premise off road in order to cover his latest obsession: the CU/Trigonometry stuff . Clearly he is quite obsessive about his enemies, as this was made in September last year and his tone has been unwaveringly scathing.

Sorry, but this is all a load of shit. You can't be generally supportive of the right these days and pretend to be any kind of speaking-truth-to-power type. Can't be done. How can someone who thinks like he does on stuff like trans issues and climate change be a source of wisdom on fucking anything? Oh, but he has glasses like what Peter Sellers wore? Well, that must count as proof that he's a great bunch of lads.

his "Chinese corona impression" ...... Ugh. Just, what am I missing here? It's cool and hip to be racist and offensive again, because ooo complex and hip back story of in fighting among loads of wankers? He's a different sort of right wing, because he's calling out other right wing guys? "anti-woke" is great now? I don't understand, CaB, what has happened to you?

I'm in total agreement with you here.

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And - yes - it does show integrity to call out Young and the Triggernometry people so hard, and alienate oneself from them so thoroughly, when you could very well profit from the trend instead.

I always admire comedians who bite the hands that feed them as obsessively as this chap, but anyone calling that set 'phenomenal' seems to be doing so from a 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' perspective. I've still not seen him "call out" "the Triggernometry people" "so hard", except that occasionally in his stoner rambling he'll reveal that Konstantin Kisin once said that he wouldn't book him for a comedy night.

You can't be generally supportive of the right these days and pretend to be any kind of speaking-truth-to-power type.

I should think it depends what truth it is you're speaking and to what power. But if Corbyn had won the election, would that mean all the right wing comedians become the speaking-truth-to-power people, or in that instance would the power already have all the truth?

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I should think it depends what truth it is you're speaking and to what power. But if Corbyn had won the election, would that mean all the right wing comedians become the speaking-truth-to-power people, or in that instance would the power already have all the truth?
No, because power doesn't simply mean "the party in government".

Autopsy Turvey

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No, because power doesn't simply mean "the party in government".

Quite!

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Quite!
So why ask the question if you already knew the answer? Do you think whatever point you're making is a lot more obvious than it is?

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So why ask the question if you already knew the answer?

https://literarydevices.net/rhetorical-question/

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Do you think whatever point you're making is a lot more obvious than it is?

Exactly as obvious. "Power doesn't simply mean the party in government", which can be used to rebut the earlier assertion that "You can't be generally supportive of the right these days and pretend to be any kind of speaking-truth-to-power type".

Because you have won everything. You control everything.

Why not enjoy your victories instead of pretending they haven't happened?

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It seems FM was implying that the culture is controlled by right wingers and AT that the culture is controlled by left wingers. Right?

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It seems FM was implying that the culture is controlled by right wingers and AT that the culture is controlled by left wingers. Right?

Hopefully nothing quite so simple! But realistically social conservatism has been both dead and a laughing stock for decades (except in certain religious communities), while leftyism has been fashionable since at least the Red Wedge era. Some powerful institutions have been (re)shaped by leftist thought - including, some may argue, the Tory Party. 'Speaking truth to power' doesn't just mean speaking left wing truth to right wing power.

Because you have won everything. You control everything.

I control nothing old son, except myself, which is quite enough hard work.

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Yeah sorry: I just wanted to hit the issue dead on, and maybe ridicule it a little.

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Yeah sorry: I just wanted to hit the issue dead on, and maybe ridicule it a little.

Always welcome!

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I've still not seen him "call out" "the Triggernometry people" "so hard", except that occasionally in his stoner rambling he'll reveal that Konstantin Kisin once said that he wouldn't book him for a comedy night.

It seems like - being as obsessive (bipolar?) as he is - he's been on the war path against CU for a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNoMGd3xdMA
The Comedy Podcast 707  (as the aforementioned Californian standup alter ego, Rick Shurdan - in addition to all the others)
Published March 26th 2019

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Then of course came the trans stuff which I will not comment on as I have no idea what he was going through. I want to give him the benefit that it was not a prank (I lean to towards it being a genuine process he was working through)

I met him on a bus in Manchester- or to be more accurate, I met Sarah, and I can confirm that it was genuine, not a prank or a stunt.

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