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Star Trek: TNG Mafia Sign-up!

Started by oblivion, May 19, 2020, 09:06:44 PM

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Ambient Sheep

Thanks for the clarification. :)

oblivion

Sending Role PMs out is a ssssssssssslllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooowwwwwwwwwwww process. I'm about halfway through. I'd ask you to have patience, but since I don't have any, that would be a rather large ask.

I'll let you know the Day 1 schedule once I can fully launch the game.

Kryton

Quote from: oblivion on May 25, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
Sending Role PMs out is a ssssssssssslllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooowwwwwwwwwwww process. I'm about halfway through. I'd ask you to have patience, but since I don't have any, that would be a rather large ask.

I'll let you know the Day 1 schedule once I can fully launch the game.

We appreciate it. Take your time.

weekender

Quote from: Ambient Sheep on May 25, 2020, 08:34:11 PM
u ok hun ?

Bit emotional today, I'm finding all the hatred towards Dominic Cummings a little hard to take.

You good?

:)


weekender

Sorry to hear that.  Anything I can do to help?

PM me if you want.

Fishfinger

#96
I assume the game won't start until everyone's had a chance to see their role etc? So tomorrow evening presumably, to make it fair.


oblivion

The game day will probably start  earlier tomorrow, but will still end at 11:30 PM the following day. So Day one will be longer than 28 hours, and starting on Day 2 we'll be on a 28 hour day/20 hour night for the duration.

oblivion

All the role PMs have gone out!

If you did not receive a role PM from me, please send me a PM to let me know.

Do not post in this thread that you didn't get a PM.

oblivion

A little about the potential roles in the game

Cop --  https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cop If there is a Cop in this game, the role will be Sane

Deputy -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Deputy

Doctor -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Doctor If there is a Doctor in this game, the role will be Sane

Nurse -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Nurse If there is a Nurse in this game, the role will self-aware

Vigilante -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vigilante

Inventor -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Inventor If there is an inventor in this game, the role will know what ability is conferred by the invention(s)

Psychologist -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Psychologist

FBI Investigator --  This role is a Cop for serial killers only

Ability Cop -- This role is similar to a Role Cop. If there is an ability cop in this game, instead of learning the investigated player's role (e.g., tracker), the role learns the ability type (e.g, investigative). Ability cops do not learn about factional abilities (e.g, an ability all players in a faction have). An ability cop investigating a mafia player would not learn the player has a killing ability, unless it was a type of kill that not all the mafia players had. For instance, a Mafia Poisoner would have a non-factional killing ability. A vigilante also has a non-factional killing ability the ability cop could learn.

RoleBlocker -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker If there is a roleblocker in this game, the blocked players would not automatically be told that they were blocked. Vanilla town would not get a notification because they have no night action to be blocked. Roles that don't get information back from the GM wouldn't get notification. E.g., a doctor would not be told their protection had been blocked. An investigative role would be told they got no result, because otherwise they would have gotten some kind of information back from the GM. This type of role tends to work in a particular way on each site that plays mafia games, so the information about how other roles interact with it become assumptions that everyone on the site shares. I don't think you guys have established a norm with respect to this role, so I'm outlining specifically how it would work in this game if the role were given to someone.

Bodyguard -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bodyguard If this role is in the game, it would not be one of the variants.

Tracker -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tracker If this role is in the game it would receive info that an investigated player went nowhere if they didn't perform a night action. This would be different from "No Result" which would signify that their track was interfered with in some way.

Watcher -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tracker If this role is in the game it would receive info that an investigated player went nowhere if they didn't perform a night action. This would be different from "No Result" which would signify that their watch was interfered with in some way.

Hider -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hider If there is a hider in this game, the role would be the Weak variant.

Miller -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller If there is a miller in this game, the role would be the Self Aware variant

Fruit Vendor -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fruit_Vendor If there is a fruit vendor in this game, it would be the normal variant

Serial Killer -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Serial_Killer If there is a serial killer in this game, it could be any of the listed variants, and additionally could have either an "alive when the game ends" or a "last player standing" win condition

Survivor -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Survivor_(role) This is essentially a vanilla role with an "alive when the game ends" win condition

Poisoner -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Poisoner This role could be town, Mafia, or third party

Commuter -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Commuter

Neighbors -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

Neighborizer -- This role chooses a player to become neighbors with. Neither of the players are confirmed to be town to the other player. The role can belong to any faction.

Godfather -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Godfather

Vanilla (town or mafia) -- https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vanilla

Most of these roles could have the following modifiers:

X-shot: The player has a limited number of actions

Even or Odd night: The action can be taken on the specified schedule

Weak: The player will die if they target non-town players

Strong-willed: Action cannot be blocked

Strongman: Kill action cannot be prevented by a roleblocker, doctor or nurse

Most of the roles could be assigned to either town, scum, or 3rd party. Some of the roles could be duplicated and there could even be 2 of the same alignment (e.g., two town trackers)

The roles that are specific to one alignment are: Cop (town), Godfather (mafia), Serial Killer, Survivor (3rd party). The Serial Killer win condition could be either Last Player Standing or Win if alive when the game ends.

oblivion

Design Notes and Mea Culpas

First, the design notes:

21 characters from the Star Trek: TNG series were selected to be roles in this game.

21 Roles/variants/combinations were selected from the list of possible roles and paired with a character name

All 21 roles were written to be Federation (town) aligned.

All 21 roles were then randomized, and it was at that point I knew which roles/characters would be town and which would not

The non-town roles were rewritten/tweaked to fit their alignments

The overall balance of the teams was taken into account to add a little strength here or take a little strength away over there

Then player list and roles were randomized separately and then matched up to each other.

And that would be the game design, except I screwed up a couple things and a couple of people might have seen something that could affect the game balance, or break the game altogether.

The Mea Culpas

As a result two character names were completely removed from the game and then replaced with 2 other characters from the series

And a role has been removed from the game and substituted with another role and a tweak here and there.

To make sure all players are on the same footing, I want to make public the specific things I removed from the game design.

The characters who were removed were Alexander Rozshenko and Worf

The role that was removed was Bodyguard.

I ask that no one discuss the removals and tweaks until after the game has ended. At that time I'll be happy to explain the specifics! If nothing else, my approach to patching/rebalancing a game could be helpful to other people who want to design and run a mafia game.


oblivion

rue the polywhirl has replaced Spoon of Ploff.

oblivion

We are in need of a replacement player. If you'd like to volunteer, please send a PM to gib and me.

Thanks!

borealis

Hello fellow players. I am the replacement player. I'll try to catch up but that D1 thread is looonnng.

About me: a mindromp.org denizen. Have played a lot of mafia games but not so much recently. Registered here years ago but can't recall why but was probably gib-related and only posted a few times.

Onward!


oblivion



Fancy a free ticket to explore the galaxy? Although we're not in immediate dire need of substitute players, it would be really nice to have a few replacements lined up.

Please post here or send me/gib a PM/DM if you'd like to be on the replacement list!



oblivion

We need another replacement in this game. Please let me and gib know if you would like to join the fun!

Fuck it, I'll take Jim Bob's place if it helps. I will no doubt be shit but better than losing someone by default.

Although if people keep asking me to explain myself and actions and expect a reply in 10 minutes then they will be disappointed.

Oh you Beauty, get in there my son.

oblivion

And we need one more replacement! Any volunteers? Please PM me and gib if you'd like to join the fun!

Kryton

Cancel that Lemon cake is back!

oblivion

Unfortunately, we still need a replacement. Anyone interested?