OASIS ARE FUCKING GREAT AREN'T THEY

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Just one look at the Be Here Now cover told you all you needed to know about its turgid, overwrought contents:



Surely one of the shittest most unimaginative covers ever, probably cost them a fortune to have it made too.

Indeed.  "Aren't we remarkably like the Beatles!  Don't you feel compelled to study our album covers for oblique clues?  What could we possibly mean with this album art!!"

[Captain Crunch]

The original mix of the album is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDU3SgfDPGQ

Cheers for that, not heard of it before.  What the fuck is that at the end of 'Columbia' is it Tony Benn's shopping list? 

_{(Excuse me for not making the Champagne Supernova Socialist gag, trying to keep it on topic)}

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To be fair though if you are gasping to hear a guitar arthritically twanging 'chung chung a-chung a-chung chung' ad infinitum and you lack access to someone who is only learning the instrument for the first time, Oasis is the fucking biz.

[bgmnts]

Is Noel Gallagher secretly a Prince/Eno/Bowie type or is he genuinely just a lad who knows a few chords? I dont really know anything about Oasis.

[Brundle-Fly]

Dusty evidence, but Noel's so-called Blur pastiche piss-take, Bonehead's Bank Holiday showed he could write a tune.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=315gGpYze8I

[shiftwork2]

I don't begrudge them their moment of fame in 1994/95 because I enjoyed the first album a lot.  The Masterplan showed off some decent b-sides too.  The second album was mostly bloat.  I don't think I've even heard the car in the swimming pool album and everything else I've heard since has been swiftly forgotten.

Hence I'm very confused as to why, 25 years on, they're still everywhere.

[idunnosomename]

if i get hold of an acoustic at a party when pissed i generally play the four horsemen by metallica. probably explains why i am a virgin. still. great fun. sometimes I sing the mechanix chorus the second time too

[Hand Solo]

if i get hold of an acoustic at a party when pissed i generally play the four horsemen by metallica. probably explains why i am a virgin. still. great fun. sometimes I sing the mechanix chorus the second time too

Nothing Else Matters is the Metallica song you do on acoustic you silly boy, that's what gets your the first-class ticket to clunge city.

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Dusty evidence, but Noel's so-called Blur pastiche piss-take, Bonehead's Bank Holiday showed he could write a tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=315gGpYze8I

How does it even remotely evoke Blur.  The la-la-laas sound borrowed The Beatles' Nowhere Man, if anywhere.  Aren't they imitating scouse accents throughout (or until the very end at least, where I'm guessing super-fans can hear Blur references)?


Also he probably nicked the tune from somewhere anyway.  Most of what they did was lifted or riffing on something by the Beatles, the Kinks or Neil Innes.

[buzby]

Cheers for that, not heard of it before.  What the fuck is that at the end of 'Columbia' is it Tony Benn's shopping list? 

_{(Excuse me for not making the Champagne Supernova Socialist gag, trying to keep it on topic)}

It's two samples of of Tony Benn quoting from The Book Of Amos from The Bible - "[take] away... the noise of your songs; to the melody of your harps I will not listen." is looped , then overlaid with "Let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream"
It was apparently from an Open University programme called Mystery Plays, broadcast on BBC Radio 3 at 6.35am on 27/02/1993 and sampled live off the radio while Oasis were recording Columbia in The Real People's studio in Liverpool. There is an earlier version of the demo that has audio of the continuity announcer introducing Peter Cockroftt with the weather at 6.55am, which followed the OU programme
     

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Its interesting they still attract so much opprobrium 20 odd years on.  They did help give us Mr Wells, to be fair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FRAeFyBX1w

[Egyptian Feast]

And Smoosh.

[dr beat]

Yes!!

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Its interesting they still attract so much opprobrium 20 odd years on.

Well it is an Oasis thread; we're not holding up placards in Trafalgar Square.

[Brundle-Fly]

How does it even remotely evoke Blur.  The la-la-laas sound borrowed The Beatles' Nowhere Man, if anywhere.  Aren't they imitating scouse accents throughout (or until the very end at least, where I'm guessing super-fans can hear Blur references)?


Also he probably nicked the tune from somewhere anyway.  Most of what they did was lifted or riffing on something by the Beatles, the Kinks or Neil Innes.

I am the greatest defender of Albarn & Co on here (at my bitter cost) but Noel said it was a Blur piss-take at the time.   

And everyone nicks stuff. 

[famethrowa]

How does it even remotely evoke Blur. 

It's a very similar guitar rhythm to Country House, you could sing the first lines of one over the other. But I'm wondering if Noel had even heard Country House at that point?

[famethrowa]

I remember being very excited after hearing Live Forever and especially Whatever, I even went and bought DM in a rush despite the latter not even being on it. My head was definitely turned by the idea of a return to the old music after the American wave of progress in the early 90s. Turns out that Whatever was a) written by someone else, technically and b) the high point, after which it turned into sludge.

[buzby]

How does it even remotely evoke Blur.  The la-la-laas sound borrowed The Beatles' Nowhere Man, if anywhere.  Aren't they imitating scouse accents throughout (or until the very end at least, where I'm guessing super-fans can hear Blur references)?

Doesn't sound very Scouse to my ears. It just sounds like Noel's normal voice.
The bits at the start and end are a pissed Bonehead and Liam (it sounds like Bonehead is attempting an impression of Owen Morris). Noel had written it for Bonehead to sing (his demo version is here), 'like a Ringo track on a Beatles album', but Bonehead was nervous and so went out with Liam to get pissed up beforehand. His resulting attempts at vocals were unusable, so Noel sang it himself, but they left the studio commotion from the pair on the track. The 'la la las' were augmentned by the drunk Liam and Bonehead

It's a very similar guitar rhythm to Country House, you could sing the first lines of one over the other. But I'm wondering if Noel had even heard Country House at that point?

Morning Glory was recorded in May and June 1995 at Rockfield. There was a 5 week gap from about the 19th of May when Noel wasn't present (and was considering leaving the band) after the fight where Liam had brought a load of pissed people, John Robb and the band Cable who he was producing back to the studio, which resulted in Noel hitting Liam with Guigsy's cricket bat. They did a further two weeks ater Noel returned, which would take it to the end of June (an interview with him at Rockfield after he returned appeared in the NME on the 25th of June, which was done before the 23rd of June appearance at Glastonbury),

Country House was the lead single for The Great Escape and wasn't released until the 21st of August. However, it's live debut was at Toronto on 21st of May, and they played it at the Mile End Stadium gig on the 17th of June which was broadcast live on Radio 1. That woud mean Noel could have heard it while they were still at Rockfield.

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They did help give us Mr Wells, to be fair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FRAeFyBX1w

This song has been firmly stuck in my head since I watched the clip last night. He may be a twat with a face like a monkey jerking off, but I can't fault Mr Wells' commercial instincts.

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Deleted my rubbish reply, as I can't be bothered to clarify it.

[Marner and Me]

Its interesting they still attract so much opprobrium 20 odd years on.  They did help give us Mr Wells, to be fair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FRAeFyBX1w

Fucking love Mr Wells sketch.

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Oasis star Noel Gallagher's secret health battle could end touring career!

Oh, it's tinnitus. Presumably on the side Liam used to stand.

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Why is he even touring?  Can't he use Zoom like everyone else?

[poodlefaker]

Love the idea of Noel G listening to "Heroes" and thinking "yeah, the combined talents of David Bowie, Brian Eno, Tony Visconti, Robert Fripp and Carlos Alomar only go so far; there is something lacking in this endeavour that I alone can bring".

[daf]

Oh, it's tinnitus.

What did he expect?

It staggers me that anyone plays loud music without massive ear defenders on - do they WANT to go deaf?

[the science eel]

Love the idea of Noel G listening to "Heroes" and thinking "yeah, the combined talents of David Bowie, Brian Eno, Tony Visconti, Robert Fripp and Carlos Alomar only go so far; there is something lacking in this endeavour that I alone can bring".

I doubt that happened.

[PaulTMA]

If Bonehead's Bank Holiday is a genuine Blur pastiche then it's a dismal failure.  Should have tried nicking one of their actual songs

[itsfredtitmus]

I doubt that happened.

definitely did mate you heard what he said

[itsfredtitmus]

YOURE THE OUTCAST YOURE THE UNDERCLASSSSSSSSSSSSS

[itsfredtitmus]

Oh, itsfredtinnitus

Love a namecheck! x