25 years...

[Jockice]

It's not that great a tune, though. It rips off " Gloria" by Laura Brannigan, for a start ( in fact, the song itself was originally titled " Gloria", until one of the producers[nb] I don't mean Zero Mostel or Gene Wilder said that to them. Who produced " Different Class"? I've forgotten.[/nb] or somebody said "Probably best that you don't do that, lads" to 'em.

Chris Thomas. Who turned Common People from what originally sounded like something by Stereolab into a !HIT! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13gE3BbI79w

I'm very fond of Disco 2000. Apparently although the working title was Gloria it was named after a (now deceased) real person, although if she moved away from Sheffield aged 10 the line about being the first girl at school to have breasts sounds a bit dubious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Bone

New page Pulp diction.

[Ferris]

Jockice might knock me down for this, but I think Pulp were the archetypal Sheffield band. Ignored for a long time while bolder and brassier bands from cities like Manchester took the limelight, kept plugging on modestly in the background, grafting, quite ordinary looking, almost apologetic, until finally people from elsewhere saw something special.

As a long time former member of 2 Sheffield bands, that is not how I remember it. I think met and did a few interviews with our own dear Jockice back in those days.

[Icehaven]

I see Disco 2000 scored low in the poll.
These days it seems to fall into the category of great songs forever defined by the limitations of their lyrics.
The chorus meaning that we are forever stuck in a pre-millenium indie disco.

Yeah I probably danced to it at least once a week in the indie clubs of Coventry throughout the late 90s when the year 2000 still seemed impossibly far away even though it was only in a few years, then once it had been and gone any mention of it instantly seemed enormously dated, partly because the anticipation of it had been building for years beforehand so it almost felt like old hat even before it happened. Bit like Christmas.

[Pingers]

As a long time former member of 2 Sheffield bands, that is not how I remember it. I think met and did a few interviews with our own dear Jockice back in those days.

There's always a good possibility I'm talking shite

[Ferris]

There's always a good possibility I'm talking shite

There's an excellent possibility the bands I played in weren't very good.

[Lisa Jesusandmarychain]

There's an excellent possibility the bands I played in weren't very good.

What's Richard Hawley like? Does he drone on and on about Sheffield IRL too?

[Jockice]

As a long time former member of 2 Sheffield bands, that is not how I remember it. I think met and did a few interviews with our own dear Jockice back in those days.

You poor sod!

[Ferris]

You poor sod!

I doubt I was memorable. I remember an interview/session I did down at the BBC studios where I was so anxious and mentally unwell I spent the whole time flicking a .73mm plectrum between my thumb and finger. I wasn't credited as a member because I was dissociative and high on speed and didn't answer any questions.

This was about a year before I had a total breakdown. I'm fine now though, so that's something!

[Pingers]

I just realised Ferris, I completely misused 'archetypal', like the fool I am. The only thing archetypal about Pulp was the initial (and long) lack of success and recognition and lack of "look at us!" Manc swagger. Their eventual success was not archetypal.

[Jockice]

I doubt I was memorable. I remember an interview/session I did down at the BBC studios where I was so anxious and mentally unwell I spent the whole time flicking a .73mm plectrum between my thumb and finger. I wasn't credited as a member because I was dissociative and high on speed and didn't answer any questions.

This was about a year before I had a total breakdown. I'm fine now though, so that's something!

Yeah, I can remember people getting really nervous about being interviewed by me. There was no need. As someone with no musical talent whatsoever I was automatically jealous of anyone who had even the slightest bit of it. Just like when people post 'crap' art on Facebook and expect me to laugh I always think it's way beyond anything I could do. I got a CSE grade four in the subject and was extremely lucky to get that.

Phew! Glad you've recovered.

[Ferris]

Don't want to divert the thread and don't know why I've picked now to talk about it. It was all very strongly intertwined in my memory but it was well over a decade ago at this point and I've been fine ever since.

[grainger]

"Party Hard" is about the only song I like off This Is Hardcore. It's a decent track.

[Ferris]

"Party Hard" is about the only song I like off This Is Hardcore. It's a decent track.

The title track from that album is great! All dark and brooding and that

[the science eel]

I'm A Man!

[Jockice]

"Party Hard" is about the only song I like off This Is Hardcore. It's a decent track.

A mate of mine always says that I emphatically claimed that TIH is the best Pulp album ever. I just as emphatically deny that I ever said that. There's some great stuff on it (The Fear, the title track, Sylvia) but most of the rest is either not bad but not great, decent if it hadn't been stretched out so long (Seductive Barry, The Day After The Revolution) or just crap. I really dislike Party Hard (sorry!) and as far as I'm concerned TV Movie is the worst thing Pulp have ever recorded. Yes, worse than Silence.

It's the Pulp album I'm least likely to play all the way through. Yes, including Freaks. Having said that there is some brilliant stuff on the re-released CD version. I've already mentioned Cocaine Socialism, but The Professional would also be in my top 20 Pulp tracks. Then there's We Are The Boyz, Street Operator (which mentions the Grove, a pub I used to drink in while visiting friends - not Jarvis - in Camberwell), Modern Marriage...

[Jockice]

For Pulp devotees I would recommend the book of lyrics, Brother, Mother, Lover. One key fact I got from that is that Jarvis hates Catcliffe, in Rotherham. A man of taste.

This is another of my surprise favourite Pulp tracks. A song described by Nick Banks (whose family's pottery business in Catfliffe Pulp used to rehearse at) described as 'too silly by half' and said it would probably be at the very bottom of the box set. It was actually on the re-release of Different Class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOyqQuaF5f4

Incidentally when they first performed Disco 2000 live at Glastonbury, the boy who said Deborah was the best was Jamie (Pinchbeck a very early member of Pulp and schoolmate of Jarvis) but by the time it was released it had become Martin, believed to be a reference to film-maker Martin Wallace who he has collaborated with several times. But didn't go to school with. Amazing facts about Pulp, I've got em.

[grainger]

The title track from that album is great! All dark and brooding and that

True, and I used to enjoy it, but it's not something I want to listen to that much.

[holyzombiejesus]

I've done it at karaoke twice! Was quite surprised to see it on offer, particularly at two different places but it was good fun (for me).