Tip jar

If you like CaB and wish to support it, you can use PayPal or KoFi. Thank you, and I hope you continue to enjoy the site - Neil.

Buy Me a Coffee at ko-fi.com

Support CaB

Recent

Welcome to Cook'd and Bomb'd. Please login or sign up.

April 20, 2024, 10:23:06 AM

Login with username, password and session length

100 Greatest Britons

Started by peanutbutter, June 07, 2020, 07:44:45 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Jerzy Bondov

I was 16 when they did this and it's the first time I can remember getting really fucking pissed off at everyone else in the country. I think it really did have quite a formative effect on me and is the main reason why I don't believe in democracy.

I grew up in Saltash where Brunel's Royal Albert Bridge crosses the Tamar. There are two statues of him and all sorts of stuff is named after him, including my primary school and one of my least favourite pubs. I also went to Brunel University, and lived in Saltash Hall. I don't know if they put me there as a funny joke or if it was just a coincidence. I can't get away from the guy and I'm perversely quite proud of him for getting to number 2 on the biggest bullshit list ever made.

buttgammon

Quote from: EOLAN on June 08, 2020, 11:56:26 AM
They really only did a TV show on the top five, allowing in house RTE people take up time ont he Late Late Show as per usual.
Parnell and Wolfe Tone made it along with writers such as Heaney, Joyce, Wilde, JB Keane and Yeats. No Beckett nor Shaw.

Wiki is here here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland%27s_Greatest

Fair enough - on balance, it's a better list than the British one.

Crisps?

These lists being a load of crap aside, I don't think the British one is that bad/embarrassing; world renowned scientists, artists, explorers, inventors and radicals/"terrorists".

Seven of the top 10 Americans (six of the top seven) are just presidents.

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: Crisps? on June 08, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
These lists being a load of crap aside, I don't think the British one is that bad/embarrassing; world renowned scientists, artists, explorers, inventors and radicals/"terrorists".

Agreed.

No list of...well, anything is EVER going to be considered as perfect by everyone.  It's an impossible folly, but people love a list don't they.  Except Neil, obvs.

idunnosomename

isaac newton was one of the biggest cunts who ever lived

Shit Good Nose

Quote from: idunnosomename on June 08, 2020, 01:02:06 PM
isaac newton was one of the biggest cunts who ever lived

He still owes me a tenner...

SavageHedgehog

I was going to eat that apple :(

Sin Agog

Quote from: idunnosomename on June 08, 2020, 01:02:06 PM
isaac newton was one of the biggest cunts who ever lived

He got everyone down.

Quote from: Jittlebags on June 08, 2020, 10:33:58 AM
I think I would add Ben Dover - thespian and cinematographer between Thomas Paine and David Beckham.

lol

shiftwork2

That bloke who filled a wheelie bin full of petrol and kept it in his front room.

Jittlebags

Barry Norman for services to pickling.

Quote from: idunnosomename on June 08, 2020, 01:02:06 PM
isaac newton was one of the biggest cunts who ever lived

The ranking is based on his contributions to alchemy, not that gravity shit.

finnquark

100 Great Black Britons was done in 2004. Mary Seacole (zzz) at the top, Goldie 89.

bgmnts

Why doesn't the link work?

Kryton

Quote from: idunnosomename on June 08, 2020, 01:02:06 PM
isaac newton was one of the biggest cunts who ever lived

Oh why's that then?

finnquark


bgmnts

Cheers!


Quote21. Arthur Wharton/Andrew Watson
Quote23. Nana Bonsu/Len Garrison
Quote88. Gabrielle/Naomi Campbell
Quote96. Nigel Benn/Chris Eubanks

Hm.

Pijlstaart

It's spelt britains, not britons, but i guess thats the kind of quality we've got to expect because its not like you can even compare them all there so different. How do you compare a poet to a war fighter like churchill or trafalgar who would of give their life for this country, its stupid and it just shows that must of us don't have british values at the end of the day, we've forgot who we are. Real list would have ricky hatton, pudsey bear, gary boatsy clarke, alex mcllveen, dugless haig, bradley lowery, the chelsea pensioners and paul dacre.


Quote from: Pijlstaart on June 08, 2020, 05:13:15 PM
It's spelt britains, not britons, but i guess thats the kind of quality we've got to expect because its not like you can even compare them all there so different. How do you compare a poet to a war fighter like churchill or trafalgar who would of give their life for this country, its stupid and it just shows that must of us don't have british values at the end of the day, we've forgot who we are. Real list would have ricky hatton, pudsey bear, gary boatsy clarke, alex mcllveen, dugless haig, bradley lowery, the chelsea pensioners and paul dacre.

I once met Paul Dacre near Old Trafford.   He came across as a very generous man, he signed a football for me, no questions asked.



thenoise

Whoever makes that cunt's underwear deserves to win this, top every country's list far as I'm concerned.  Absolute hero.

sevendaughters

I think Michael Crawford was in because he has a very active fanbase who took an interest in this.

Lisa Jesusandmarychain


idunnosomename

Quote from: Kryton on June 08, 2020, 04:35:42 PM
Oh why's that then?
his lectures at Cambridge - despite his renown as a natural philospher - were poorly attended to the point where literally no one turned up. He insisted on publishing in Latin because he was such a pretentious dickhead. Every account about him is that he was tetchy and secretive.

But the big clincher is when he was master of the mint at the end of his life he pushed to have counterfeiters executed which most people at the time thought was a bit harsh

shiftwork2

Master of The Mint?  That sounds well mint.  I wonder if that's how he wangled getting on the five pound note.

dissolute ocelot

It was weird at the time of the poll how Brunelmania gripped the land; Brunel was championed by Jeremy Clarkson who despite his faults approached it with a good degree of enthusiasm. Wikipedia says that Brunel Uni and its students also put a lot of effort into it.

A lot of the European versions seem to have picked religious figures suggesting massive campaigns by the Roman Catholic Church, but I'd rather have Brunel or even Michael Crawford near the top than some paedo priest. Of course if they did it today some ironic cunt would get Mr Blobby in the top ten.

I do want statistics on what nation is the worst. Spain made their then king, Juan Carlos, #1 and his wife #4, which is pretty servile. At least Greece put Alexander the Great top and 3 philosophers in the top 10. And guess who was top in India? Obviously B. R. Ambedkar, a jurist and campaigner for Dalits (Untouchables). They deliberately excluded Gandhi by focusing on post-independence.

Nobody Soup

surely in the wake of his F1 success in the subsequent years Lewis Hamilton has to take no.3 over Diana as he is actually good at driving.

Quote from: idunnosomename on June 09, 2020, 12:49:34 PM
his lectures at Cambridge - despite his renown as a natural philospher - were poorly attended to the point where literally no one turned up. He insisted on publishing in Latin because he was such a pretentious dickhead. Every account about him is that he was tetchy and secretive.

But the big clincher is when he was master of the mint at the end of his life he pushed to have counterfeiters executed which most people at the time thought was a bit harsh

I'd read in a few places he published exclusively in Latin to stop the plebs from having the temerity to ask him questions.  As if publishing Principia in English would mean that every commoner in the country would suddenly 1) learn how to read, 2) read a book as dull as Principia (I'm not impugning its brilliance), or 3) know who he is in first place to stop him in the street.

Hard to disagree with him being a cunt, no matter how brilliant.