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Cuellar

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #120 on: October 14, 2020, 03:08:09 PM »
There will never be a vaccine

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #121 on: October 14, 2020, 06:32:41 PM »
There will be, it's gonna be fine lads.

Whether Boris will shell out for anyone who didn't vote for him under the age of 50 to have it is another matter.

Cuellar

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #122 on: October 14, 2020, 08:00:29 PM »
It will never happen

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #123 on: October 14, 2020, 09:14:39 PM »
no u

Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #124 on: October 24, 2020, 11:14:38 PM »
I'm guessing this is probably bullshit, yes?


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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #125 on: October 24, 2020, 11:16:30 PM »
Why the fuck is there a hospital named after George Eliot?

Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #126 on: October 24, 2020, 11:34:13 PM »
Because she's the most famous historical/cultural figure from Nuneaton, where the hospital is? Why is that strange, there's loads of places named after writers, surely?

Zetetic

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #127 on: October 24, 2020, 11:49:44 PM »
It seems utterly perfunctory. Perhaps there's quotations from Lydgate all over the shop. I suppose I wouldn't question a George Eliot Pumping Station.

Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #128 on: October 25, 2020, 12:13:12 AM »
I've never spent much time in the Midlands, but "Bronte" just gets used on things in West Yorkshire to such an extent that it doesn't really refer to Emily, Charlotte, Anne and Bramwell anymore,it's just a word people use when they need a name for a new business park or postcard shop or slaughterhouse or whatever

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #129 on: October 25, 2020, 08:13:14 AM »
By this point the Express and Mail must have done over a hundred front pages between them triumphantly announcing that a vaccine is on the verge of being released.

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #130 on: October 25, 2020, 09:01:11 AM »
By this point the Express and Mail must have done over a hundred front pages between them triumphantly announcing that a vaccine is on the verge of being released.

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Nightingale, Eliot...whatever...distraction from the hell of it all.

Population "Awwwwww, history, Britain, Empire, happy now".

Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #131 on: October 25, 2020, 09:43:47 AM »
My suggestion to rename the Liverpool Women's Hospital as the Clive Barker Women's Hospital fell on deaf ears.

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #132 on: October 25, 2020, 09:54:02 AM »
I'm guessing this is probably bullshit, yes?



Well December is pretty consistent with what they've been saying the whole time as a timescale for the first doses going out to healthcare workers, so I guess they're just planning on being ready, rather than having some insider info.

Zetetic

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #133 on: October 25, 2020, 01:29:53 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #134 on: October 26, 2020, 09:01:19 AM »
My suggestion to rename the Liverpool Women's Hospital as the Clive Barker Women's Hospital fell on deaf ears.
They could have called it the John Rossiter Hospital after Leonard's father, who was killed at it's predecessor Mill Road during the May Blitz when it was bombed.

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #135 on: October 26, 2020, 02:28:32 PM »
I'm guessing this is probably bullshit, yes?



No, I'm sure a vaccine is really really close. Right round the corner.

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #136 on: October 26, 2020, 02:33:11 PM »
Why is that funny? I don't get it.

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #137 on: October 26, 2020, 03:21:05 PM »
Two bits of good news:

Early results of the Oxford trial suggest it successfully gives immunity to the elderly (FT)

Professor leading the Oxford project reckons we might see vaccination begin by Christmas: "I'd be very surprised if this thing [the pandemic] isn't very clearly on the way down by late spring, at least in this country... we will get to the stage where there is herd immunity through vaccination."

Okay, the "home by Christmas vibes" from the latter story activate my reflexive cynicism, but I can be excited about this, right? I'm absolutely sick of this shit and this doesn't seem too flimsy a basis for a bit of gimlet-eyed hope.

Cuellar

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #138 on: October 26, 2020, 04:07:46 PM »
Professor leading the Oxford project reckons we might see vaccination begin by Christmas

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Medics and high-risk patients are likely to receive Oxford's Covid-19 before the end of the year, the professor leading the project said last night.

Either they missed a word or they've just admitted to euthanising the vulnerable to get the economy MOVING AGAIN

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #139 on: October 26, 2020, 04:19:31 PM »

Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #140 on: October 26, 2020, 09:05:35 PM »
lol that's a big word to miss

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Re: Vaccine Progress
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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #142 on: November 07, 2020, 03:19:20 PM »
So what does the Denmark mink COVID mutation mean for the success of a vaccine? Given how many countries have mink farms, how do we know this strain isn't already in the UK? Would we require a vaccine for each mutation of the virus?

It's just very demoralising.


Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #143 on: November 08, 2020, 08:58:20 AM »
So what does the Denmark mink COVID mutation mean for the success of a vaccine? Given how many countries have mink farms, how do we know this strain isn't already in the UK? Would we require a vaccine for each mutation of the virus?

It's still not clear how significant a mutation it is but the consensus seems to be converging on it not being enough to affect vaccines.

In the first press conference they said:

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We have seen several mink mutations. In cluster 5 we have seen 3 mutations in amino acid and 1 change / loss on outside. These mutations are around the spike protein that is used for vaccine development. In the laboratory this specific mutation doesn’t show the same degree of response to patients' antibodies as the by humans transmitted virus does. We see a clear difference. ... Luckily, we still see some response to antibodies. But the decreased response to antibodies is enough to increase our risk evaluation ... because it would be a big concern for public health if we would see further mutations. This doesn’t mean that vaccines wouldn’t be effective at this point of time.

There have been a number of rebuttals about how worried people should be about it, like this one:

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#SARSCoV2 mutations acquired in minks are not concerning. We already knew that #SARSCoV2 can transmit from minks to humans. Though, this should be of no concern in terms of the evolution of the transmissibility of the virus. The population of #SARSCoV2 is so large that any mutation viable to the virus has arisen many times by now. There is no evidence that any such mutation affects transmissibility in humans (with the possible, questionable exception of D614G). There are thousands of mutations in #SARSCoV2 arising constantly. The fact that a few have been observed in minks will not change the strains in circulation in humans. If they were beneficial for the virus to infect its human host, they would be at high frequency already.

(Minor mutations are termed variants, only more significant ones are considered strains.)

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #144 on: November 08, 2020, 09:30:26 AM »
Better safe than sorry, let's kill every animal now.

We can always get more.

Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #145 on: November 09, 2020, 11:55:51 AM »

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #146 on: November 09, 2020, 11:56:56 AM »
Fuck i'm going to have to start going to the jobcentre again now, fuck off with your vaccine.

Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #147 on: November 09, 2020, 12:00:35 PM »
Don't worry, one of Cumming's mates' company will make sure they completely fuck up getting it out to anyone apart from rich Tories.

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #148 on: November 09, 2020, 12:11:33 PM »
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The phase 3 trials have involved more than 43,000 people. People from black and minority ethnic backgrounds appear to have been as well protected as everyone else, the company says.

What an absolutely weird and offensive way of putting it.

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Re: Vaccine Progress
« Reply #149 on: November 09, 2020, 12:12:52 PM »
Probably best to read as widely as possible here given there's an obvious financial incentive for the company to make these claims.

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