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Character assasination du jour

Started by Adrian Brezhnev, May 12, 2005, 12:53:44 PM

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Jemble Fred

They're not animals, thgey're toys, and as such have no genitals with which to misbehave. And you're rotten for intimating otherwise.

Yes, I also get angry when people snigger at the 'Oh lovely pussy' bit in The Owl & The Pussycat.

EDIT: And 'Dear pig are you willing to sell for one shilling your ring?'

Adrian Brezhnev

Quite.... much the same way as there is no need to snigger at Enid Blyton who (I believe in around 1913) wrote the line "I am the chocolate cock..."

Frinky

Quote from: "Jemble Fred"Yes, I also get angry

Really? There's a suprise.

Serafina Pekkala

Quote from: "Jemble Fred"They're not animals, thgey're toys, and as such have no genitals with which to misbehave. And you're rotten for intimating otherwise.

Yes, I also get angry when people snigger at the 'Oh lovely pussy' bit in The Owl & The Pussycat.

I know - it is a bit infantile.  I often yearn for a more innocent time.  Americans hijacking an word and making it rude *tsk* - barbarians they are.  BTW I loved Edward Lear 's works as a child - esp the Alphabet book with the ape tying bows on his toes.

I like the books of Tove jansson - just thought i'd tell you seeing as we are mentioning children's books.  Oh and the the Gashlycrumb Tinies by Edward Gorey was another fav  - i have been fond of dark and absurd humour ever since.

Jemble Fred

Quote from: "Frinky"
Quote from: "Jemble Fred"Yes, I also get angry

Really? There's a suprise.

Hoorayo! Aaand we're back on topic!

sam and janet evening

Tove Jansson's Moominland Midwinter is a really sweet, sad book. Back when Children's books were well-written, Childrens stories. As opposed to now when they're badly written and simplistic but with lots of 'Real' social issues, so the youth of today can spend those precious childhood years reading about smack addicts and divorce.

Ciarán2

Highly recommended childrens' book: "The Happy Prince and Other Stories" by Oscar Wilde. I also recommend it to foreign students of English. "The Selfish Giant" is only about 3 ages long but extraordinarily moving.

If you like a bit of the old satire, "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift is a bit of a classic - try to get the version which also includes "Tale of a Tub" and "Meditation Upon a Broomstick".

For something a bit tricky, Jacques Lacan's "Ecrits" is an essential work in post-structuralism. You'll like it if you like Freud or Derrida.

If you've tended to avoid Shakesepeare through your life, have a look at "As You Like It" - it's a gentle satire of pastoral romance and the lightest (and in my view most enjoyable) of is comedies.

Finally, have a look for stuff by the poet Langston Hughes. He was an african-american modernist, a pal of Ezra Pound and Enda O'Brien. Heavly influenced by blues. He's quite lefty and often wrote in character. Excellent stuff. I wasn't aware of him until recently.

kjkinky

talking of childrens books has anyone read any of the new craze texts eg. "Silverfin" and "Ark Angel"? If so any good, kak, complete and utter pointless waste of time?

Jemble Fred

Quote from: "Ciarán"If you've tended to avoid Shakesepeare through your life, have a look at "As You Like It" - it's a gentle satire of pastoral romance and the lightest (and in my view most enjoyable) of his comedies.

And my favourite movie director is about to release his version. Which looks terribly twee, to be honest. But it's got Brian Blessed in, which will definitely save it.

Come to think of it, there's also a version currently running in London starring Sean Hughes and Reece Shearsmith which I'd love to see.


Cerys

Quote from: "Ciarán"Highly recommended childrens' book: "The Happy Prince and Other Stories" by Oscar Wilde. I also recommend it to foreign students of English. "The Selfish Giant" is only about 3 ages long but extraordinarily moving.

Guaranteed to make me cry.  Ever since I first read it.  I'm a big old softy really, me.

Quote from: "kjkinky"btw Cerys its a true quote...(re-read the story where they play pooh sticks)

and just in case you may have thought I was just trying to imply fictional animal porn...

nah you are right I am a bad bad person

:)

I suspected as much.  With regard to both the truth of the quote and the badbadness of the quoter.

Quote from: "Adrian Brezhnev"I need to think about that one, but I'd say that Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency is fairly high up on the list.

you keep talking like and you could redeem yourself.  but you've got a long way to go.

slim

Quote from: "Cardinal Tit Storm"I just finished "Down and Out in Paris and London". It's a sort of autobiographical travel diary about tramps. I had no idea George Orwell had been in such a situation himself. He treats the subject very lightheartedly and it's an easy and enjoyable read - a walk in the park compared to 1984.
I really, really enjoyed this book. It's very interesting and well written.

I am slim, and I am a rubbish reviewer.

kjkinky

I aim to please and offend in equal measure Cerys...you said it was not just a kids book and I was helping you prove your point...oh ok I am just bad

My fave kids/non kids book is "The Princess Bride" - absolutely love the film as well...

Quote from: "kjkinky"talking of childrens books has anyone read any of the new craze texts eg. "Silverfin"

Ha, that's Charlie Higson's Bond novel isn't it?

Cerys

Quote from: "kjkinky"I aim to please and offend in equal measure Cerys...you said it was not just a kids book and I was helping you prove your point...oh ok I am just bad

That's okay - I'll let you off :)

QuoteMy fave kids/non kids book is "The Princess Bride" - absolutely love the film as well...

Ah, the book beats the film hands down.  Despite not having Mandy Patinkin in it.

kjkinky

Yeah ManWith it sounds intriguing if only cause it is written by Charlie Higson and it is a Bond story...

And totally agree with you Cerys also liked the continuation of the story "Buttercup's Baby"...

Mandy Patinkin was great...the classic line:

"Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father: prepare to die"

Cerys

There's a continuation?  Damn!  Off to Amazon I go....

kjkinky

Its in the anniversary edition of the original but it is only a couple of chapters as the rest of the story was lost...

Cerys

Ah, that's what they want us to believe.

Captain Crunch

Any of you hep cats read V for Vendetta?  Am I right in thinking that it came out in ten editions but now you can buy all ten in one volume?  I'm confused as to the differences on Amazon.

Thanks

terminallyrelaxed

I've got it all in one book, didnt know it was previously serialised.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1852862912/qid=1116333813/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_10_1/026-4942963-4527665

Theres a general comics chat thread, by the way..

oceanthroats

V for vendetta was put out at first in Warrior magazine in the early eighties til that folded and then finished later in 1988. It was originally black and white. Or at least the first part of it was.
Anyway, as far as i know the only available version on sale is the complete full colour graphic novel with afterword by Moore and introductions by Moore and Dave Lloyd. The Moore afterword is excellent.
A wonderful piece of work. The best beginning in all of comics maybe? I love how it draws on the traditional Guy Fawkes thing and turns it into something wodnerful, some kind of sci fi folk tale thing. And the rest of it pretty much lives up to the beginning too. Great gloomy gritty lonely last panel.

SetToStun

Quote from: "Cardinal Tit Storm"Don't know how people manage to read Shakespeare's plays. I've enjoyed quite a few of them in the theatre (depending mainly on the theatre company), but when it comes to reading them, I just can't. All the stage direction, scene setting, and so on just gets in my way and I can't get into it. It's a bummer man, cos I really want to.

If you want to give it a go, try and get the Arden Edition versions from your local library. They're quite old (in general), so they may not have them (all), but they have excellent footnotes for when the language gets a bit obscure and they don't overdo it on directions. I found them very accessible and having the footnotes on the same page as the text was an absolute godsend.