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Pubs seem to think they're re-opening

Started by Rev+, June 13, 2020, 10:43:43 PM

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Blue Jam

Quote from: jobotic on November 01, 2020, 12:34:53 PM
So why can't pubs sell take away booze this time?

So they go out of business and Tim Martin gets even richer?

Looks like it:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54781023

Still, 99p a pint at your local Brexity Covid hive until Wednesday night! Fill yer boots! Have a really crap meal! Get into a fight!

This is really shit. I was in my favourite Embra pub when it closed at 6pm at the start of the Scottish Central Belt lockdown and they only had two ales on because they had decided to try and limit the number of kegs/casks they had open to reduce waste. Presumably they've been able to keep a load of sealed ones in the cellar. They're lucky because they're a small pub with a small cellar and had time to prepare for this eventuality, larger pubs in England with more stock and less time to prepare will be fucked.

Also parts of England may well be Gary Central on Wednesday night.

BlodwynPig

Herd impunity. Bovine cunts. Die. I dont care for their ilk

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: jobotic on November 01, 2020, 12:34:53 PM
So why can't pubs sell take away booze this time?

So they go out of business and Tim Martin gets even richer?

Pub/beer twitter is going apeshit. I'm already disillusioned from all their endless complaining about everything and pseudo-scientific grasping at every expedient nugget going to muster supporting them, despite fully passionately agreeing with them. Once you've heard someone claim their pub is "covid-secure" you can't help but immediately lose respect for them.

I assume someone in power, somewhere needs to justify this pretty quickly.


Endicott

U turned on Tuesday, so takeaway sales are back on. So long as you pre-order by phone or app.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Endicott on November 05, 2020, 01:22:39 PM
U turned on Tuesday, so takeaway sales are back on. So long as you pre-order by phone or app.

So not a lockdown.

Quote from: Endicott on November 05, 2020, 01:22:39 PM
U turned on Tuesday, so takeaway sales are back on. So long as you pre-order by phone or app.

or post.

Captain Crunch


Shoulders?-Stomach!

Yeah, more dud claims of 'Covid secure' venues.

Just say you want to make money, don't give us this shit about how the government are losing tax revenue and definitely don't come to us claiming your venues are covid secure you fucking gargoyle.

shiftwork2

I feel nostalgic for Eat Out To Help Out now.  Summer breeze, made me feel good.  Probably killed tens of thousands of people but I got a quid off my 'spoons tea.

Looking forward to April's sequel.

frajer

It's deranged that the lessons the government learned from Eat Out To Help Out and the subsequent inevitable spike in new cases was "yeah, same again sounds good."

Not sure how many times you can claim "hindsight" if you're just repeating the exact same scenarios with the exact same results.[nb]Unless you're a bulbous morally bankrupt cunt, in which case just keep saying it until you're out of the hotseat and can retire to a big pillowy pair of breasts on a Russian yacht.[/nb]

Blue Jam

I loved Eat Out To Help Out. Had a few meals at my local pub and it felt so nice and normal.

I'm evil, I know.

George Oscar Bluth II

I hate the "covid secure" thing, generally it means they've put some hand gel on a table somewhere. Fucking farce.

Unless Tim has upgraded to hospital grade ventilation systems and everyone who enters Spoons will be given full medical grade PPE, which they will wear at all times? If not, fuck off. Not 'covid secure' then is it.

Non Stop Dancer

Toddlers would probably be less bothered about sweet shops closing that many adults would about pubs. Get a bloody grip.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: Non Stop Dancer on February 15, 2021, 05:28:44 PM
Toddlers would probably be less bothered about sweet shops closing that many adults would about pubs. Get a bloody grip.

Not really a like for like comparison, is it? Toddlers don't socialise at sweet shops but at nurseries. I imagine they probably are affected by lack of social interaction more overall than adults given they are developing, but trying to underplay the importance of meeting spaces as though it is just some precious frippery anyone could easily do without isn't doing any argument any favours.


George Oscar Bluth II

Incidentally kids are literally prevented from playing with other kids in playgrounds at the moment (in England) which is mad.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: George Oscar Bluth II on February 15, 2021, 05:53:32 PM
Incidentally kids are literally prevented from playing with other kids in playgrounds at the moment (in England) which is mad.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me. In December I spied a young year group all holding hands as they walked outside the school gates and it really hammered home what a careless and stupid thing it was that these kids were blindly passing on Covid to their parents at the end of every day, who were then passing it to their families, friends and colleagues. Obviously it is very difficult to keep young kids apart which just underlines why they shouldn't be there anyway until the vaccine situation is much better.

Non Stop Dancer

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on February 15, 2021, 05:51:31 PM
Not really a like for like comparison, is it?

100% accurate comparison, backed up by complex computer modelling.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on February 15, 2021, 01:26:01 PM
Yeah, more dud claims of 'Covid secure' venues.

Just say you want to make money, don't give us this shit about how the government are losing tax revenue and definitely don't come to us claiming your venues are covid secure you fucking gargoyle.

Tim Martin 2017: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tim Martin 2019: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tim Martin, April 2020: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tim Martin, February 2021: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tumble off a cliff.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Blue Jam on February 15, 2021, 04:18:53 PM
I loved Eat Out To Help Out. Had a few meals at my local pub and it felt so nice and normal.

I'm evil, I know.

Just don't post this in the thread and I will still like you. For now I am fucking glowering at you from across the room.

jobotic

I ate out to help out once, when I went to buy a sandwich to take away from the place round the corner from work and they told me it was half-price if I ate in the place. I couldn't finish it because I found the whole thing so uncomfortable. Although i did save £1.25

BlodwynPig

Quote from: jobotic on February 15, 2021, 09:37:09 PM
I ate out to help out once, when I went to buy a sandwich to take away from the place round the corner from work and they told me it was half-price if I ate in the place. I couldn't finish it because I found the whole thing so uncomfortable. Although i did save £1.25

I guess it was all worth it. Get a post-lockdown shandy with that, my sonnnnnn


Ferris

You gotta have schools/nurseries so you can drop your spawn off and go (home) to work. Your options are "send em and cross your fingers" or "don't work and be a full time caregiver"[nb]I suppose you have the option of keep them home and work at the same time as educating them, and that is a pretty unsustainable solution for anything longer than a few days[/nb], and that's not even a choice a lot of people get to make when there are bills to pay.

You also can't keep kids from getting in close proximity with each other, so they are de facto in your bubble, along with all of their family members... it's a really tough time for parents and I sympathize with every poor fucker in a higher risk area than we are. Will little Timmy come home from school and kill grandad? I'd find that really stressful.

QuoteMr Martin argued that pubs and restaurants were "Covid-secure environments", having invested in safety measures such as plastic screens

Well, I'm convinced!


Blue Jam

The only place I did Eat Out To Help Out was at The Old Bell in Embra, a pub which was actually big and spacious enough to make distancing possible. The tables were already two metres apart and they seemed to be managing it really well, keeping everything very clean, doing table service only etc but because of the space it felt pretty normal, no need for plastic dividers between tables and other depressing reminders of Covid.

As Shoulders says, pubs aren't really like sweet shops, for me it was about meeting up with friends and checking up on people. We couldn't go to my usual local because it was too small, so it was nice to have somewhere relatively safe to meet. I met up with some friends who are expecting their first child soon, and it was nice to hear that one of the older regulars who is a bit vulnerable has been getting some help from other pubgoers, delivering groceries etc, one guy who lost his wife just before the pandemic and who has been glad of the company. We've had texts from people checking up on us too, it's been nice.

Pubs are like little communities and people do have a real need to socialise and get back to a bit of normality. We can't stay cooped up forever.

MrMrs

 NAH even if the pubs are open air and 3 meters apart, they've not covid secure. It's totally offensive bullshit. It's the same as TV shows recording and sports teams playing, being in bubbles. Fuck OFF with that.

Blue Jam

I'm on my way to werk now, to my Covid-secure werkplace, should I be skiving off instead?

I'm no lockdown skeptic but people can't live like this forever. This has been going on for a year now with no end in sight, lots of places closing down and people losing their jobs, and my job is also now at risk due to charities having less grant money to offer and there being more competition for the publicly-funded grants, for the money that hasn't been redirected to Covid research.

People need to be cautious but they also need a phased return to normality and a bit of hope.

greenman

Quote from: BlodwynPig on February 15, 2021, 07:03:36 PM
Tim Martin 2017: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tim Martin 2019: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tim Martin, April 2020: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tim Martin, February 2021: "The pub industry is on its knees"

Tumble off a cliff.

I believe "the pub industry" is merely how he reffers to himself so maybe that describes his position before Boris/Farage?

Blue Jam

Yes- everything I said does not apply to Tim Martin, he can fuck right off.