Author Topic: Glinner: thread for backseat moderators and hand-wringing [split topic]  (Read 15353 times)

One episode of the IT Crowd was about a trans person and is where all this started.

Fair enough, I didn't know that. I dropped out after the first series.

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2nd series is the only one worth watching. They stopped shouting for a start....

Barry Admin

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The threads aren't just about Graham Linehan. They also closely follow the manufactured culture war against trans people. Linehan has been instrumental in fomenting this movement for the last few years, but it's also got big, American right-wing money behind it, and is now having a real and tangible impact on the rights of an oppressed minority. All the homophobic arguments and tactics I recall observing in my youth are just being rolled out again and used against trans people, at a moment of so-called fucking introspection and progress, when statues are going swimming, pigs are kneeling, and Uncle Ben is fucking off forever.

Occasionally the threads can get a tad too... "hate-site" for my tastes, and I'll tell people off a bit. Then, invariably, Linehan will do something so breathtakingly, calculatedly cunty that I'll lose my temper and remember exactly why people have that visceral response to his bullshit. What he's doing is truly, unrelentingly despicable, and the more people calling him out for his bullshit - and standing with trans people - the better.

It gets boring having to regularly defend the threads, but I've always said I stand by them, and I'll continue to do so, Karens. If you think they're just about a sort of mean-spirited milking of a sad old lolcow who has torched his whole life and career because he couldn't handle the backlash to one episode of his sitcom, then you're doing it wrong.

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Karens

Nrrrrrgh, I was with you until then ;)

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Threads I do not visit:

Cricket

Doctor Who

Game of Thrones

I remember back when I used to watch The X Factor people would visit the thread just to add a sneery tag about how shit they thought it was. I always thought that was a bit mean-spirited- Big Brother has always been popular here and while I find that utterly baffling I also feel no need to visit those threads for a bit of a sneer. We have different tastes in shit reality TV, so what.

I have no interest in Game of Thrones or cricket and I only like Doctor Who a bit but with a bajillion other threads to read on here it's not hard to avoid those things. Those mega-threads keep things nicely contained too.

It's like those people who whine about Justin Bieber or the Kardashians as if we're all forced to watch Justin Bieber's VEVO and whatever non-terrestrial pay channel the Kardashians are on.


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I love those mother-fucking Kardashians
« Reply #65 on: June 22, 2020, 02:31:47 PM »
It is, although I would say, IMO, there could be very little more vacuous or boring than a fifty-pager with different versions of Hey, love those mother-fucking Kardashians repeated in every post.  As you so rightly say, were such a thing to exist, it could be avoided.

The threads aren't just about Graham Linehan. They also closely follow the manufactured culture war against trans people.

Okay, I understand that. But does it not mean that Linehan has become a lightning rod for a wider anger? I have to wonder if that's fair, for him to take the full brunt. It might explain why he's so agitated and splapdash with his responses on social media.

Buelligan

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It's no ones fault but Glinner's that he's such a cunt.

It's very easy to lose your footing - and your temper - if you think you're being attacked from all sides. That can turn a man petulant.

But I'm not gonna leap to his defence because I haven't actually read his Twitter and the rest of it.

Barry Admin

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Okay, I understand that. But does it not mean that Linehan has become a lightning rod for a wider anger? I have to wonder if that's fair, for him to take the full brunt. It might explain why he's so agitated and splapdash with his responses on social media.

"...they should put up a statue in Trafalgar Square to the nanny, Louise Woodward."

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You're giving more consideration to Glinner's feelings than he has given to any one of the dozens and dozens of marginalized people (including kids) who he has insulted, mocked and implied are child molesters to his half a million followers.

Fuck Glinner. He's a cunt. Fuck him. It's really no more complex than that.

earl_sleek

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Okay, I understand that. But does it not mean that Linehan has become a lightning rod for a wider anger? I have to wonder if that's fair, for him to take the full brunt. It might explain why he's so agitated and splapdash with his responses on social media.

Of course it's fair. He wants to be a leader of the transphobes[1]. If he's not up for taking some shit then he aleays has the option of taking a back seat.
 1. I refuse to call them 'gender-critical'

Chollis

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You're giving more consideration to Glinner's feelings than he has given to any one of the dozens and dozens of marginalized people (including kids) who he has insulted, mocked and implied are child molesters to his half a million followers.

Fuck Glinner. He's a cunt. Fuck him. It's really no more complex than that.

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I think you should get help with managing the site, like in the first 3-4 years, take a bit of the pressure and work off you, you have given too much of yourself over the years.

Our arch nemeses female equivalents at Mumsnet employ a staff of half a dozen to keep their hoards of acronym abusers in check. This place is looked after by Barry with his mobile phone on the bus.

So behave yourselves!

Of course it's fair. He wants to be a leader of the transphobes.

Well. Is that true? Did he crown himself the glorious new fuhrer of the transphobes? Or is it, possibly, that he has low impulse control, can't let a comment go unanswered and gets baited into all this? Bearing in mind that he's Irish and probably drunk for 99% of his life.

Bearing in mind that he's Irish and probably drunk for 99% of his life.

Christ, you really don't do yourself any favours do you.

GoblinAhFuckScary

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Well. Is that true? Did he crown himself the glorious new fuhrer of the transphobes? Or is it, possibly, that he has low impulse control, can't let a comment go unanswered and gets baited into all this? Bearing in mind that he's Irish and probably drunk for 99% of his life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

Christ, you really don't do yourself any favours do you.

But it's true. Linehan would never admit this, but Father Jack was his self-insert character.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

Oh no, a wikipedia theory! You've really caught me with my trousers down this time.

But I'm not gonna leap to his defence because I haven't actually read his Twitter and the rest of it.

Proceeds to leap multiple times...

Barry Admin

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Oh no, a wikipedia theory! You've really caught me with my trousers down this time.

She did aye. This thread split was entirely for attention-seeking contrarians like you, so knock yourself out.

GoblinAhFuckScary

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Oh no, a wikipedia theory! You've really caught me with my trousers down this time.

What is this expression "wikipedia theory"?

I don't really think it's healthy the way some people are obsessed with defending Graham Linehan.

Buelligan

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Well. Is that true? Did he crown himself the glorious new fuhrer of the transphobes? Or is it, possibly, that he has low impulse control, can't let a comment go unanswered and gets baited into all this? Bearing in mind that he's Irish and probably drunk for 99% of his life.

What's your excuse?

She did aye. This thread split was entirely for attention-seeking contrarians like you, so knock yourself out.

So the slightest bit of pushback or 'I'm-not-sure-about-that' gets me othered as a contrarian. I thought I made it clear that I'm not jumping on board with his agenda. I just think it's understandable that a guy could dig his heels in and go on the defensive, against people who are wagging their fingers and telling him off. Grown men don't like to be told off, they react badly. Maybe - and I'm just saying maybe - that is what happened with Glinner.

Has anyone ever tried to open a level-headed dialogue with him about this? Or has it all been 'You must get on hands and knees and apologise to our mob?'

Buelligan

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Why don't you check? Then come and tell people the answer.

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So the slightest bit of pushback or 'I'm-not-sure-about-that' gets me othered as a contrarian. I thought I made it clear that I'm not jumping on board with his agenda. I just think it's understandable that a guy could dig his heels in and go on the defensive, against people who are wagging their fingers and telling him off. Grown men don't like to be told off, they react badly. Maybe - and I'm just saying maybe - that is what happened with Glinner.

Has anyone ever tried to open a level-headed dialogue with him about this? Or has it all been 'You must get on hands and knees and apologise to our mob?'

I think people are getting irritated with you because you keep asking questions that you are quite capable of finding out the answers to.

earl_sleek

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Well. Is that true? Did he crown himself the glorious new fuhrer of the transphobes? Or is it, possibly, that he has low impulse control, can't let a comment go unanswered and gets baited into all this? Bearing in mind that he's Irish and probably drunk for 99% of his life.

He actively searches out conversations that don't involve him, between people that are nothing to do with him, and butts into them. He cannot then in good faith complain that he gets responses.

But anyway he loves it. Loves feeling he's part of something, that he's an important part of the milieu, even loves people disagreeing with him because it just proves him right! Sympathy for him is misplaced, he's a pig in shit. A pig in shit that shits out its shit onto other pigs' faces, then scolds them for having, shitty, piggy faces, before licking the shit off, the fucking shitty pig.

GoblinAhFuckScary

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So the slightest bit of pushback or 'I'm-not-sure-about-that' gets me othered as a contrarian.

Think your post pretty perfectly exemplifies Barry's reason for splitting the thread.

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You're giving more consideration to Glinner's feelings than he has given to any one of the dozens and dozens of marginalized people (including kids) who he has insulted, mocked and implied are child molesters to his half a million followers.

Fuck Glinner. He's a cunt. Fuck him. It's really no more complex than that.
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