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Started by Barry Admin, June 23, 2020, 10:55:59 AM

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olliebean

Quote from: MojoJojo on June 24, 2020, 12:45:33 PM
Would you care to expand?

I mean even the wikipedia description is this:
I mean, I didn't pick up on your use of eugenics. Do you really believe the government are deliberately letting people die to improve the the quality of the populations genes?

They've been deliberately letting poor and vulnerable people die for years now. Whether they're doing it with the aim of improving the country's gene pool is up for debate. It certainly isn't the only reason, and may not be part of the equation at all, although there are definitely Tories who believe they are deserving of their wealth and power by virtue of their good genes (and presumably, therefore, that people who have been less successful in life must have somewhat inferior genes).

Barry Admin

It's only 4 months since they hired Andrew Sabisky, and refused to publicly distance themselves from his belief in eugenics. A belief, as you will recall, which was originally expressed on Cummings' blog to pander to the bald little Bono shite.

Johnny Yesno

Here's Cummings's father in law on Eugenics: https://twitter.com/samjknights/status/1266006126526631936

And he called his horse Barack because you know why he called his horse Barack: https://www.fieldsportschannel.tv/sir-humphry-misses-pheasant-season-to-go-riding/

I know, you can't choose your family. Yet I can't help thinking that Cummings actually did choose his father in law.

Danger Man

Barack Obama?

Johnny Yesno

Yep. But in more words.

bgmnts

Weird how a man with that hairline would be mad wet for genetics,

But then, he's right isn't he? These properly mental inbred spasmaloids are running the country, and have been for ages.

Johnny Yesno

Quote from: bgmnts on June 25, 2020, 12:22:19 AM
Weird how a man with that hairline would be mad wet for genetics,

But then, he's right isn't he?

No. What you're witnessing is the meritocracy as described by Toby Young's father: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Meritocracy

Danger Man

These are hard times. Post WWII guilt coupled with an oil boom allowed a golden period of prosperity in the West to happen...for so long that people have forgotten that life has always been a few people lording it over a majority of serfs.

It looks like the good times are ending, partly because of a dose of nasty flu and partly because they were going to end anyway and serfdom might be making a comeback.

What's a girl gonna do?

They just have to do the best they can.

Johnny Yesno

Quote from: Danger Man on June 25, 2020, 12:29:25 AM
It looks like the good times are ending, partly because of a dose of nasty flu and partly because they were going to end anyway and serfdom might be making a comeback.

No, it's because the right wing tendency is always trying to minimise the good times of everyone else. C19 hasn't caused the changes we're seeing. It's just sped them up.

Danger Man

Not always. MacMillan and Thatcher saw a boom for a lot of people. Not everybody, but enough people made some money.

But after Blair and Brown the Tories have been insane.

Johnny Yesno

Quote from: Danger Man on June 25, 2020, 12:41:56 AM
Not always. MacMillan and Thatcher saw a boom for a lot of people. Not everybody, but enough people made some money.

Thatcher saw a boom for a minority of people. Tax cuts were paid for by cuts to public services. The sale of council houses was enabled by the loss of council housing stock.

Danger Man

Yes, but Thatcherism still allowed a large group of people  to feel rich (if you include selling shares)

It was enough to win votes.

Now...the money has gone and the Tories are going to have to campaign on being English. They can probably still win but it's slim pickings in 2020 or even earlier.


Johnny Yesno

Quote from: Danger Man on June 25, 2020, 01:22:25 AM
Yes, but Thatcherism still allowed a large group of people  to feel rich (if you include selling shares)

It was enough to win votes.

Now...the money has gone and the Tories are going to have to campaign on being English. They can probably still win but it's slim pickings in 2020 or even earlier.

Ah, feel rich. Fair enough. Now it's all about feeling English. Equally insubstantial. The tory magic beans sales team never changes.

idunnosomename

i dont want people within a metre of me at the best of times

Johnny Yesno

Quote from: idunnosomename on June 25, 2020, 11:37:42 AM
i dont want people within a metre of me at the best of times

I think they'd need to get closer than that during the, er, best of times.

NoSleep

It looks like we could get ahead of the curve by maintaining lockdown:

QuoteSurge of cases in Europe since lockdown easing, says WHO

More from the World Health Organization. The body's regional director for Europe, Hans Kluge, has told reporters that Europe has seen a surge of Covid-19 cases since countries began easing restrictions.

"Last week, Europe saw an increase in weekly cases for the first time in months," he said, adding that more than two dozen countries in Europe had recorded resurgences of the deadly virus.

Thirty countries have seen increases in new cumulative cases over the past two weeks. In 11 of these countries, accelerated transmission has led to very significant resurgence that if left unchecked will push health systems to the brink once again in Europe.

In comments reported by AFP, Kluge did not identify the countries by name, nor provide detailed numbers.

Germany, which began easing measures about seven weeks ago, is however one such country that has suffered a major setback. On Tuesday, it reimposed lockdowns on more than 600,000 people in two districts in the western part of the country after an outbreak at a slaughterhouse infected more than 1,500 workers.

Portugal also imposed new restrictions in and around its capital on Tuesday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jun/25/coronavirus-live-news-who-warns-of-global-oxygen-shortage-as-cases-rise-by-1m-per-week?page=with:block-5ef489438f089f533bbfaf57#block-5ef489438f089f533bbfaf57

Barry Admin

Another example of them being told what'll happen, and just not fucking caring:

Quote from: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/27/ministers-ignored-police-chiefs-warning-over-risks-of-lifting-lockdown-in-englandMinisters were warned by senior policing figures on the eve of chaotic scenes at beaches last week that lifting the lockdown is "madness" and risks prompting fresh disorder.

During a meeting last Wednesday with police and crime commissioners, the Home Office minister Kit Malthouse was told that the decision to reopen pubs on 4 July could lead to increased violence and that coastal resorts could be overrun.

According to the West Midlands police and crime commissioner, Labour's David Jamieson, Malthouse "brushed the concerns away". Jamieson said: "The issue was raised and it is total madness, we all know it's madness. Some of his [Malthouse's] Conservative colleagues raised it as well, particularly those on the coast."

The following day a major incident was declared after tens of thousands of people defied pleas to stay away and descended on beaches in Bournemouth, while police were attacked at illegal street parties in Brixton and Notting Hill in London.

...

Jamieson said that the government should have planned to reopen pubs midweek or on a Monday in order to better manage pent-up demand and levels of emotion.

"We're not against lifting the lockdown – it's the way that we do it. To actually open the pubs on a midsummer Saturday night strikes me as a decision from people who are disastrously out of touch with reality. It's going to be very challenging – very, very challenging – that weekend," Jamieson warned.

He also took issue with Boris Johnson's language last Tuesday when the prime minister announced the easing of restrictions, in particular his promise to take England out of "national hibernation".

Another Labour police and crime commissioner, Kim McGuinness from Northumbria, questioned the need for Johnson to have made the announcement so far in advance.
"I do think we've seen people's behaviour change because of that messaging," she said.

Jamieson added: "What they're doing is irresponsible. They [the government] just haven't thought it through – they've thought through the politics of it but [not] the wider consequences for society."

A Home Office spokesperson said: "We recognise that as restrictions are carefully eased, we are trusting the public to comply with more subtle social restrictions. There is no excuse for violence, vandalism or disorderly behaviour and the police have our full support in cracking down on those who flout restrictions."



idunnosomename

Quote from: Johnny Yesno on June 25, 2020, 12:10:07 PM
I think they'd need to get closer than that during the, er, best of times.
i didnt know a tale of two cities was so racy