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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2020, 04:02:07 PM »
^^It's a firm indication of Smarmer's political position. Can't say we didn't warn you well in advance. He's taking it all apart as one would expect from a member of the Trilateral Commission.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2020, 04:03:39 PM »
The sacking is a travesty, but does no one else have sympathy for Starmer given how comprehensively Corbyn got fucked by the anti-semitism question? I'm not surprised he wants to nip this thing in the bud sharpish.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2020, 04:05:20 PM »
None at all.  Corbyn, PBUH, much as I love him, should've ripped these cunts a new arsehole.  I think a lot of gammonleavers would've stuck with Labour if he had.  Starmer should learn from that if anything, following the cower-strategy, appeasing, gets you killed.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2020, 04:08:34 PM »
I'm out. That's all I have to say.

Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2020, 04:10:53 PM »
The sacking is a travesty, but does no one else have sympathy for Starmer given how comprehensively Corbyn got fucked by the anti-semitism question? I'm not surprised he wants to nip this thing in the bud sharpish.

He didn't sack her to nip anti-semitism in the bud, he sacked her because he and the luke akehurst cunt mob don't like her.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2020, 04:12:11 PM »
Indeed.  A handy excuse to cut away any vestiges of left-leaning power.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2020, 04:16:45 PM »
The sacking is a travesty, but does no one else have sympathy for Starmer given how comprehensively Corbyn got fucked by the anti-semitism question? I'm not surprised he wants to nip this thing in the bud sharpish.

If that were earnestly the case, you'd think he'd have had a similarly public word with Rachel Reeves for celebrating Nancy Astor without qualification.

Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2020, 04:17:14 PM »
I'm not being fucking flippant.  Never been less so in my life.  You're being complacent.  You're OK, so you don't see what the worry is.  The worry is, it doesn't matter how many green jobs you create if everyone dies.  Wake up.

Explain how a slight difference in the uk getting to net zero will prevent everyone dying?

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2020, 04:19:10 PM »
Explain how a slight difference in the uk getting to net zero will prevent everyone dying?

As long as no one does anything, everyone can blame each other as we all die.

If that were earnestly the case, you'd think he'd have had a word with Rachel Reeves for celebrating Nancy Astor without qualification.

I don't expect anyone that matters complained about that. 

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2020, 04:19:45 PM »
This is bollocks

Starmer's a cunt

Too hot to think beyond that

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2020, 04:19:59 PM »
Fuck you calling me a centrist, I've spent 2 elections campaigning for Corbyn. Reluctantly deciding Starmer is a better choice than RLB does not change that.

It might not change your past but it is changing your future. You're heading beige the more you make excuses for him.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2020, 04:21:11 PM »
Explain how a slight difference in the uk getting to net zero will prevent everyone dying?

It's called leadership. It might not be forensic enough for you, though.


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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2020, 04:22:00 PM »
Fuck you calling me a centrist, I've spent 2 elections campaigning for Corbyn. Reluctantly deciding Starmer is a better choice than RLB does not change that.
Starmer was a wrong'un straight off. Now you're finding out what was plainly obvious to the rest of us.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2020, 04:22:57 PM »
The sacking is a travesty, but does no one else have sympathy for Starmer given how comprehensively Corbyn got fucked by the anti-semitism question? I'm not surprised he wants to nip this thing in the bud sharpish.

I think as soon as the media picked up any ”anti-semitism” he was going to have to act, but it seems to have been handled in a harsh way with Long-Bailey being misled and not given a proper chance to apologise or explain.

There wasn’t really anything anti-semitic about the article - a quote criticising Israel’s security forces is not anti-semitic, though it may have been inaccurate - but there are still many around who are going to leap on anything they can attach to anyone in Labour, particularly anyone connected to Corbyn.

Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2020, 04:23:04 PM »
So many times I think shove your party up your arse, then I look at the filth running the country and think....okay one more chance.

Then he does this, but won't call for the utterly corrupt Jenrick to go.

Shove your party up your arse you fucking cunt.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2020, 04:23:22 PM »
It looks as though Starmer's office helped RLB word her initial clarification - then fired her anyway.

https://mobile.twitter.com/michaeljswalker/status/1276163849339756549

That is fucking outrageous.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2020, 04:24:00 PM »
Utterly despicable.

It's called leadership. It might not be forensic enough for you, though.

And it's a signal, the planet is not a priority, after all older people will mostly be dead before it really starts kicking off in the UK. 

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2020, 04:25:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/leowatkins91/status/1276169844510031875?s=20

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In case you’re wondering, a challenger to Starmer’s leadership would need to be backed by 40 Labour MPs to trigger a contest. There are currently 35 in the Socialist Campaign Group. Not saying we’re there yet, but another year of this and let’s see.

That is an interesting and a hopeful note after this travesty.


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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2020, 04:26:59 PM »
Just to clarify:
Barest whiff of anti-Semitism == insta-sack
Being racists == long winded report process until everyone forgets

Is that official Labour policy now?

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2020, 04:28:37 PM »
I think as soon as the media picked up any ”anti-semitism” he was going to have to act, but it seems to have been handled in a harsh way with Long-Bailey being misled and not given a proper chance to apologise or explain.

There wasn’t really anything anti-semitic about the article - a quote criticising Israel’s security forces is not anti-semitic, though it may have been inaccurate - but there are still many around who are going to leap on anything they can attach to anyone in Labour, particularly anyone connected to Corbyn.

IMO, it is antisemitic to conflate criticism of Israel or in this case, the Israeli security forces, with criticism of jews or jewishness.  That's where the antisemitism here resides and as you say, it's not RLB who's the culprit.

As long as no one does anything, everyone can blame each other as we all die.

Lucky I'm not advocating that we don't do anything, or that we shouldn't worry about our policy in this area because of the rest of the world. You're criticising me for things i never said.

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Lucky I'm not advocating that we don't do anything, or that we shouldn't worry about our policy in this area because of the rest of the world. You're criticising me for things i never said.

You were asking what's the point of Britain acting if it's not one of the big boys.  Stop this twisting now.

You were asking what's the point of Britain acting if it's not one of the big boys.  Stop this twisting now.

No you were. I said it was worthwhile doing even if it had no impact (in reality it has a modest impact). You asked me why it was worth doing if not for this and i gave several secondary reasons. You've now gone back and ignored what i said.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2020, 04:37:47 PM »
It's because of people like Long-Bailey, assiduously tending to the environment and recoiling against Israel's systematic, systemic erosion of an entire people at the expense of her own career...it's because of people like her that the holocaust was allowed to happen.  Glad to see her go.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2020, 04:42:00 PM »
So many times I think shove your party up your arse, then I look at the filth running the country and think....okay one more chance.

Then he does this, but won't call for the utterly corrupt Jenrick to go.

Shove your party up your arse you fucking cunt.

I think the Jenrick matter is further evidence that Starmer’s approach is to play the responsible,   ”statesmanlike” role and leave the Tories to keep embarrassing themselves and digging their own hole. He seems to have won some people over this way but I feel it might be better to take them on at their own game: get nasty and go for big headlines, using the raw facts of their corruption and incompetence and shoving it in people’s faces.

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Re: Rebecca Long Bailey sacked [split topic]
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2020, 04:44:05 PM »
Being honest, if Starmer was PM now, it'd be better.  But not a real win.  I'd be like the US having Obama.  Something better but still dancing the old dance.  Is that worth waiting for?  Is there time to wait?