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Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« on: July 13, 2020, 04:41:53 PM »
The news that Washington have finally listened to people their big money backers telling them not be racists and are changing their team name seems a good as point as anywhere to start this thread for the forthcoming season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53390944

About filling time. Ridiculous that it lasted this long.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2020, 07:42:43 PM by Gulftastic »

Re: NFL 20/21
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2020, 06:46:57 PM »
Seems like there's still an outside chance they do something hilariously inept like announce that the new name is the "Washington Apache"

Re: NFL 20/21
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2020, 07:06:13 PM »
The Washington Sex Pests.

Re: NFL 20/21
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2020, 07:40:06 PM »
The news that Washington have finally listened to people their big money backers telling them not be racists and are changing their team name seems a good as point as anywhere to start this thread for the forthcoming season.

I think there's already a thread

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2020, 07:42:57 PM »
Fair enough, re-titled this one.

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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2020, 07:52:49 PM »
It is odd how they are happy for whole Franchises to move to new cities or just plain burn them if they aren't commercially viable despite whatever goodwill and fanbase they may have fostered, yet still play the tradition card.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo%27s

Amazing that this place stayed open as Sambo's until this year!

To complete the cycle, the chain's original fucking owner moved a basketball franchise (referencing Jazz) to another state (with comparatively little to do with Jazz)

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2020, 08:05:11 PM »
The US Sports leagues are just focussed on dollar. I have an American email pal. I told him how at Chester FC the fans own the club and he couldn't fathom it.

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2020, 08:07:57 PM »
I was about 9 when the NFL first become 'big' in the UK, and they were always called the Washington Foreskins by everyone at school*, so I fail to see why they don't just formally adopt that.


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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2020, 08:25:26 PM »
It does seem a bit odd that Riverboat Ron is involved in deciding the new name. He's obviously, to a large extent, the face of the team currently. But the Head Coach is also often the first person leave the team when things don't go well. Maybe it's so he can try to move the discussion away from whatever horrific suggestions Snyder comes up with.

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2020, 08:29:38 PM »
Exeter Chiefs next

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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2020, 08:53:05 PM »
It is odd how they are happy for whole Franchises to move to new cities or just plain burn them if they aren't commercially viable despite whatever goodwill and fanbase they may have fostered, yet still play the tradition card.
This is the critical part. There aren't a lot of "traditions" in US sport that they wouldn't change in a heartbeat if they could make 0.1% more cash.

The Atlanta Braves (based balls) still have lots of fans that do the "tomahawk chop", which not only is about 200 times more annoying than the vuvuzela, but also isn't exactly loved by Native American sports fans. https://www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/braves-name-chop-are-complex-and-personal-issues-for-native-americans/IcoUJUcvhpmcVr54PkNBmL/

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2020, 09:07:00 PM »
The US Sports leagues are just focussed on dollar. I have an American email pal. I told him how at Chester FC the fans own the club and he couldn't fathom it.

Strange, considering the Packers are a fan owned team. You have an ignorant friend I think, break contact, or kill.

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2020, 09:17:54 PM »
This name change inspired me to look into racist names in US sports and I found a couple of corkers.

The Coachella Valley High School teams are called the Arabs.



There was once a team called the Atlanta Black Crackers.


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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2020, 09:18:29 PM »
Exeter Chiefs next

Their name is going nowhere although their despicable racist mascot and badge are imminently at risk of being retired. I wouldn’t mind because he’s not getting as much work these days if they roped in Barney The Dinosaur as official club mascot.

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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2020, 09:31:51 PM »
The Coachella Valley High School teams are called the Arabs.



Is Arab considered as a racist term?  I thought it was okay - Arab State, Arab Spring, Arab Nation, etc etc.  Or is it the cultural appropriation you mean?  (I don't really know anything about or understand sport)

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2020, 09:45:19 PM »
Or is it the cultural appropriation you mean?  (I don't really know anything about or understand sport)

Essentially.

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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2020, 09:46:37 PM »
Ahh.  Noted.

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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2020, 12:37:52 AM »
There was a thing going around on facebook saying the Washington Redskins logo was designed by a Native American man and that his son is proud of the logo.  Was that a fabricated lie then?


Coachella is a real place?  Ha, I'd assumed the festival was so-called because people might travel there on a coach.

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2020, 08:10:37 AM »
There was a thing going around on facebook saying the Washington Redskins logo was designed by a Native American man and that his son is proud of the logo.  Was that a fabricated lie then?

Coachella is a real place?  Ha, I'd assumed the festival was so-called because people might travel there on a coach.

Americans don’t call them coaches. They call them Grisham Fuckbuses.

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Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2020, 03:44:54 PM »
There was a thing going around on facebook saying the Washington Redskins logo was designed by a Native American man and that his son is proud of the logo.  Was that a fabricated lie then?

5 seconds on Google reveals:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/sports/nfl/redskins/washington-redskins-name-change-bittersweet-for-family-of-logo-creator/65-bf85b9b8-fa48-48dc-a3d2-3f03326cc338

This argument - "this one native person likes it" - is akin to saying "my black friend loves it when I tell racist jokes".

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2020, 05:15:50 PM »
And considering the cultural and linguistic diversity among first nations, "Native American" is a bit of a redundant term.

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2020, 01:56:09 PM »
Exeter Chiefs to bin racist mascot, keep racist branding that aforementioned racist mascot is based on.

seems like a move designed to piss absolutely everyone off.

Re: Washington ******** to change name, NFL
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2020, 02:02:04 PM »
It is odd how they are happy for whole Franchises to move to new cities or just plain burn them if they aren't commercially viable despite whatever goodwill and fanbase they may have fostered, yet still play the tradition card.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo%27s

Amazing that this place stayed open as Sambo's until this year!

To complete the cycle, the chain's original fucking owner moved a basketball franchise (referencing Jazz) to another state (with comparatively little to do with Jazz)

There's also the Soviet martial art which they've been trying to get in the Olympics



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Although sambo is a Russian acronym, exponents of the sport in the English-speaking world have faced problems concerning the linguistically unrelated racist term. Sambo representatives have opted to use the alternative spelling Sombo to avoid offence.[47] In Swedish, "sambo" is the term for an unmarried couple living together on permanent basis.

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