Topic: alt.guardian.die.die.die

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Ugh. The article seems to believe disagreeing with a woman is as bad as hitting her. Learning the difference between reasonable criticism and outright abuse (whether as critic or criticised) is an essential part of civic society, and something you'd expect a Guardian writer to know.

Guardian writers have been going through an experience  that they have never been through before. A large organised contingent of readers who are able to contact them and criticise them, expressing in a forthright but usually articulate manner the problems with their sociopathy, their white middle class clique and the spincycle of shit opinions they churn out to maintain their place.

When ordinary people on twitter call out the detached behaviour of women blue tickers, the reaction is notably consistent. The first line of defence is normally to check if the criticism is coming from a man . If so, they play the man, not the ball, and call them hateful misogynists (who unlike the blue tickers tweeting from their chaise lounge, are definitely tweeting from a stained wankpit). This then diverts the discussion from the shitearsed rubbish blue tick cunt is coming out with to the dynamic of a playground where outsiders from the discussion rush to pile on to defend the supposedly weaker (yet practically speaking, enormously more powerful) woman without taking even a moment to read what it's all been about. This really isn't a moment of triumphalism but a cheap way of latching onto a moral highground. It's one of the great many things about Twitter that makes it so awful.

[Buelligan]

It's also one of the many things about living in a world completely riddled with built-in privilege and prejudice that skews the pitch for everyone (almost everyone).  And we do.  Women and other minorities have been and are, routinely shouted down purely because they say something the shouter disagrees with, they're identified as belonging to the minority and summarily bawled at and degraded on that basis or cold-shouldered, until they fuck off. 

It works both ways and good-hearted people, in all groups, are hoodwinked into joining pile-ons simply because of conditioning.  All worth keeping in mind, that.  This is not confined to twitter.

[monkfromhavana]

I see John Harris' latest idea to help the destitute. Guarantee a jobless family of 4 £10,000 pounds a year to live on.

[BlodwynPig]

Guardian writers have been going through an experience  that they have never been through before. A large organised contingent of readers who are able to contact them and criticise them, expressing in a forthright but usually articulate manner the problems with their sociopathy, their white middle class clique and the spincycle of shit opinions they churn out to maintain their place.

When ordinary people on twitter call out the detached behaviour of women blue tickers, the reaction is notably consistent. The first line of defence is normally to check if the criticism is coming from a man . If so, they play the man, not the ball, and call them hateful misogynists (who unlike the blue tickers tweeting from their chaise lounge, are definitely tweeting from a stained wankpit). This then diverts the discussion from the shitearsed rubbish blue tick cunt is coming out with to the dynamic of a playground where outsiders from the discussion rush to pile on to defend the supposedly weaker (yet practically speaking, enormously more powerful) woman without taking even a moment to read what it's all been about. This really isn't a moment of triumphalism but a cheap way of latching onto a moral highground. It's one of the great many things about Twitter that makes it so awful.

[BlodwynPig]

I see John Harris' latest idea to help the destitute. Guarantee a jobless family of 4 £10,000 pounds a year to live on.

And a Grundig TV

[monkfromhavana]

And a Grundig TV

On rental from Rumbelows.

[BlodwynPig]

On rental from Rumbelows.

Make sure you have enough coins for the leccy meter

[Sebastian Cobb]

Make sure you have enough coins for the leccy meter

Or the telly itself if the Rumbleows contract isn't good.

[BlodwynPig]

Or the telly itself if the rumbleows contract isn't good.

"Terrrrryyyy gis us a quid 'enders is startin'"

A quote from a former Guardian journalist in 2024 after her and her mates have been dumped by their political sugar daddies at the Dawn of the Neu British Reich