Labour Party Desolation v2: a beige loafer stamping on a human face forever

[Paulie Walnuts]

the most accurate pollsters, Survation

[BlodwynPig]

Fantastic news, bye bye Starmer!

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

''Jeremy Corbyn Keir Starmer should be 20 pts in front by now!!! '

[BlodwynPig]

''Jeremy Corbyn Keir Starmer should be 20 pts in front by now!!! '

It's priceless isn't it. Sadly our goldfish attention spans* don't lend well to putting tropes to bed*

*tropes

[jobotic]

Ooh this sounds like a great listen

In the first part of our Politics Weekly series, Jonathan Freedland speaks to Peter Mandelson, the former Labour cabinet minister and EU commissioner. The pair discuss Britain's future relationship with Europe and the battle Sir Keir Starmer faces to get Labour back into power.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Third in a two-horse race.

[pancreas]

They've started getting a bit more nippy with the govt on Twitter. They've obviously noticed that they've turned into beige wallpaper almost overnight.

There was another interesting poll which shows that amongst Labour votes, he's losing support and gaining it from Tory voters. (Who will never vote for him.)

[Sebastian Cobb]

They've started getting a bit more nippy with the govt on Twitter. They've obviously noticed that they've turned into beige wallpaper almost overnight.

There was another interesting poll which shows that amongst Labour votes, he's losing support and gaining it from Tory voters. (Who will never vote for him.)

Here
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1290739282710106112

Also losing remainers and gaining support with leave.

[Buelligan]

Third in a two-horse race.

Yeah, but when you think about how brilliant and successful Johnson is, coming third to Don't Know, seems like a win.  It is a win.  A wonderful, wonderful, forensic electable win.

[ollyboro]

Every single thing is falling into the Left's lap - right now. A right-wing Tory government are throwing money at saving their system...like Gordon Brown did - not so long ago. Surely this demonstrates how Capitalism has failed. Meanwhile, we have found out who the key workers are. It's the people who can't work from home.

[idunnosomename]

rosie duffield's twitter is back and she is retweeting all the accounts like the archtory of cunterbury and mrs balls saying shes actually MARVELLOUS and you feeble trolls should get back under your bridge!!

[greenman]

They've started getting a bit more nippy with the govt on Twitter. They've obviously noticed that they've turned into beige wallpaper almost overnight.

There was another interesting poll which shows that amongst Labour votes, he's losing support and gaining it from Tory voters. (Who will never vote for him.)

Why that stat is fucking meaningless.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

It is reasonable to assume the people who refused to answer are stolid in their opacity. Flak jackets wrapped in enigmas wrapped in the greasy shat on chip paper of their chain-towns.

'I sir, refuse to say.' Yeah, well lose a limb to a bear trap. Then another.

[BlodwynPig]

It is reasonable to assume the people who refused to answer are stolid in their opacity. Flak jackets wrapped in enigmas wrapped in the greasy shat on chip paper of their chain-towns.

'I sir, refuse to say.' Yeah, well lose a limb to a bear trap. Then another.

or refusing to participate in the charade? or are these people who signed up to do the survey? Did they receive their 0.0001pence?

[Sebastian Cobb]

Can't even bring himself to support an actual Labour government.

[Kelvin]

Truly, truly pathetic. I honestly think he's even more spineless and fence sitting than the Ed Miliband era. Even by the low standards I had for him, he's still managed to flop lower. 

[Buelligan]

It's incredible, isn't it?  This isn't a question of religion or whether Marmite is nice or not, he is the leader of a political party, he should be capable of giving a lead.  I wonder if there's anything at all in the world that he would speak out on - obviously no point in asking him.

[pancreas]

Just imagine being so nihilistic that your entire political strategy rests on a notion you might, in extraordinary circumstances, end up being perceived as plausibly less disagreeable than the most corrupt government in Western Europe.

[idunnosomename]

i am astounded at how bad he is, because he wasn't bad at all under corbs. he's just fucking embarrassing now. still, better than Biden.

[chveik]

well the decaying body of my nan is better than Biden

[bgmnts]

How could he ever have been a human rights defence lawyer being THAT much of a spineless nothing?

[thugler]

Can't even bring himself to support an actual Labour government.

Isn't this because they should be having masks in shops and he doesn't want to directly criticize them, however they do seem to have done a better job dealing with the pandemic overall in Wales. I don't see the argument for not wearing masks in shops personally, I was wearing one before the enforcement. He's on record as calling for wearing masks anyway.

Did any of you actually read the article?

[BlodwynPig]

Isn't this because they should be having masks in shops and he doesn't want to directly criticize them, however they do seem to have done a better job dealing with the pandemic overall in Wales. I don't see the argument for not wearing masks in shops personally, I was wearing one before the enforcement. He's on record as calling for wearing masks anyway.

Did any of you actually read the article?

Time for you to fuck off.

[king_tubby]

I just had a lightbulb moment. Starmer is an accelerationist, hence not doing any opposition.

[BlodwynPig]

He is deeply vain, deeply nervous, deeply dull. Frozen by his weaknesses into inaction or leashed by other forces, either way he is the biggest danger to Britain since Nigel Farage.

[Paul Calf]

I just had a lightbulb moment. Starmer is an accelerationist, hence not doing any opposition.

400D chess.

[thugler]

Time for you to fuck off.

So are you for or against wearing masks in shops?

[Buelligan]

I'm for it.  Now, tell me, what's so great about Starmer's position?  Convert me to his banner why don't you?

[Zetetic]

Give the guy a break; like 99% of UK Labour members, he's no idea what Wales even are.

[thugler]

I'm for it.  Now, tell me, what's so great about Starmer's position?  Convert me to his banner why don't you?

I don't get what he's supposed to do exactly? Is he supposed to support Welsh Labour and say masks don't need to be mandatory in shops? I'm pro masks and while the tories have brought in the rule way too late, I do support it. He's saying the situation is different in Wales from England, It's fair to say that things might be low enough there that they don't need the mask thing, I think it's such an easy thing to do I think it should be in place for a good while personally. 

What should he have said on this? I just don't see the point of complaining if he disagrees with welsh labour on anything, or agrees with anything the tories do just for the sake of it. Mandatory masks is a good thing, just brought in too late.