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Sunak considering online sales tax

Started by Fambo Number Mive, July 27, 2020, 03:49:31 PM

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Fambo Number Mive

According to the Murdoch press, Sunak is:

Quoteexamining proposals for an online sales tax to provide a "sustainable and meaningful revenue source for the government" and help bricks-and-mortar retailers to compete.

In a call for evidence published last week, the Treasury highlighted concerns that business rates were effectively penalising the high street because online rivals did not need to rent "high-value" properties.

This seems unfair on people who may not be able to travel to the shops or may not feel confident visiting the shops during a pandemic - why should they pay more for their shopping? Would it also not cause issues for small businesses selling online?

king_tubby

#1
I'm sure Amazon will have a quiet word and this will be dropped.

thr0b

It'll be a boon for the Chinese sellers who won't be paying any tax anyway, won't need to reduce their prices and will instantly be even more competitive, even taking into account three week waits for delivery.

Sebastian Cobb

Imagine if all the big chains went out of business and got replaced with libraries and community centres and affordable housing and swimming pools and schools etc.

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on July 27, 2020, 05:56:14 PM
Imagine if all the big chains went out of business and got replaced with libraries and community centres and affordable housing and swimming pools and schools etc.

Feel sad 4 billionaires :(

Bently Sheds

Amazon would be able to absorb that cost and drive other online retailers into oblivion.

Thursday

It's not a very good idea is it. It's doesn't even seem... intentionally evil, just very stupid.

king_tubby

They're just playing cunt chicken with Labour now, seeing how far they can go before Sir Keith goes 'well hang on a minute now, chaps'.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Bently Sheds on July 27, 2020, 06:00:31 PM
Amazon would be able to absorb that cost and drive other online retailers into oblivion.

Amazon proposing a new online shop called "buy Amazon tax", where you pay Amazon's tax bill incrementally or in large chunks with the return of a proportional hit of Capitalist Dopamine.

Thursday

Quote from: king_tubby on July 27, 2020, 06:08:25 PM
They're just playing cunt chicken with Labour now, seeing how far they can go before Sir Keith goes 'well hang on a minute now, chaps'.

It's Kieth, not Keith, come on now!

Chedney Honks

Quote from: king_tubby on July 27, 2020, 03:50:34 PM
I'm sure Amazon will have a quiet word and this will be dropped.

My bro's mate is on some EU economic analysts board, I don't even know the name, it's top tier cunts. He said that Amazon and Facebook are literally impossible to negotiate with on anything because they just come in and say this is what we're having, get cunted. This ain't happening.

JamesTC


Rizla


olliebean

Quote from: Thursday on July 27, 2020, 06:02:39 PM
It's not a very good idea is it. It's doesn't even seem... intentionally evil, just very stupid.

It seems to be very important to the Tories that people get out to the shops and mingle with each other and get that second wave under way. I guess the ease of online shopping is interfering with that. This probably won't be done in time to affect the second wave, but it might be implemented in time to make sure we get a third, fourth, etc...


The online sales tax was one of Mike Ashley's proposals to save the high street.  He was right - and it fucking hurts to write that sentence.  We live in a world where the Mike Ashley model of abusing workers and paying taxes is better than the Jeff Bezos model of abusing workers and not paying taxes.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

The high street is a total load of old willies

And fannies

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Still, interesting tussle here between neoliberal globalists on one side and the old money land barons on the other.

Tories desperately trying to keep both happy.


BlodwynPig

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on July 28, 2020, 08:14:38 AM
The high street is a total load of old willies

And fannies

*some sad news about Shoulders*

idunnosomename

They should do a poll tax but its just for mike ashley and the tax is for his penis

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: TheBrownBottle on July 28, 2020, 07:16:08 AM
The online sales tax was one of Mike Ashley's proposals to save the high street.  He was right - and it fucking hurts to write that sentence.  We live in a world where the Mike Ashley model of abusing workers and paying taxes is better than the Jeff Bezos model of abusing workers and not paying taxes.

Taxes aside would anyone lament Sports Direct going online only?

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on July 28, 2020, 10:56:04 AM
Taxes aside would anyone lament Sports Direct going online only?

The staff who aren't on zero hours contracts probably would.  But few would weep tears for its loss.

Though it should be remembered that he's accumulating high street names at a ludicrous rate - he's a carpetbagging disaster capitalist scumbag.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: TheBrownBottle on July 28, 2020, 11:10:15 AM
The staff who aren't on zero hours contracts probably would.  But few would weep tears for its loss.

Though it should be remembered that he's accumulating high street names at a ludicrous rate - he's a carpetbagging disaster capitalist scumbag.

I agree and I'm not sure why the powers that be decided he needs saving when other less-awful chains didn't and independents getting shored-up by chains that offered worse service and less choice certainly didn't.

A lot of this is down to underfunded councils jacking the rates so only the strongest, shittiest companies and exempt charity shops survive.

Absolutely - and another part of his proposal was for the councils to cut / axe rates for businesses.  Because men like Ashley want to beat their competition, not pay into the exchequer as part of the social contract.  The council rates originally helped lever him into his current position - now they hurt him; so off they must go.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: TheBrownBottle on July 28, 2020, 11:41:36 AM
Absolutely - and another part of his proposal was for the councils to cut / axe rates for businesses.  Because men like Ashley want to beat their competition, not pay into the exchequer as part of the social contract.  The council rates originally helped lever him into his current position - now they hurt him; so off they must go.

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