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Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2020, 10:13:24 PM »
Disney you've done it again!

Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2020, 11:30:11 PM »
I’m genuinely surprised at how well people seem to regard The Muppets (2011). I’d just finished a binge watch of the original series and subsequent movies and felt the 2011 offering was completely tonally misjudged.

It's got Amy Adams in it though, so it is one of the finest movies ever crafted.

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Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2020, 12:19:31 AM »
The Muppet Show is the greatest TV entertainment* programme of all time

True.

Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2020, 12:23:03 AM »
Capturing the specific Muppety tone seems elusive. Modern efforts are so clearly influenced by other comedy trends and seem to lose something in translation.

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Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2020, 01:11:07 PM »
A question - why is the original Muppet Show series elusive?
Why aren’t they on Disney Plus?
I’d watch those. I used to have a few DVDs but I don’t think they even got the whole lot out and there was not much in the way of extras as far as I can recall.

Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2020, 04:00:15 PM »
A question - why is the original Muppet Show series elusive?
Why aren’t they on Disney Plus?
I’d watch those. I used to have a few DVDs but I don’t think they even got the whole lot out and there was not much in the way of extras as far as I can recall.

Music rights, probably.

Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2020, 04:35:27 PM »
A question - why is the original Muppet Show series elusive?
Why aren’t they on Disney Plus?
I’d watch those. I used to have a few DVDs but I don’t think they even got the whole lot out and there was not much in the way of extras as far as I can recall.

I bought a fan-made box set a few years ago. All 5 series and shitloads of extras. It's superb.

Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2020, 07:16:14 PM »
The first three series were released on official DVDs. I think each set has about an hour-two hours of extras, so not too shabby but if I recall correctly they're more general Muppet\Henson documentaries than anything too specific about the show.

Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2020, 07:39:15 PM »
The new Kermit voice will take some getting used to but it's not bad by any stretch. It's just jarring because Matt Vogel is doing his own impression of Jim Henson's Kermit (and sometimes, more accurately), rather than trying to sound anything like Whitmire's. I hear more subtleties in Vogel's version, like Henson's very faint Mississippi accent. It also sounds more natural and less like putting-on a voice. Again, it's jarring because it's different and we had 20 years to get used to Whitmire's version, but I think it's good.
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Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2020, 07:42:40 PM »
The new Kermit voice will take some getting used to but it's not bad by any stretch. It's just jarring because Matt Vogel is doing his own impression of Jim Henson's Kermit (and sometimes, more accurately), rather than trying to sound anything like Whitmire's. I hear more subtleties in Vogel's version, like Henson's very faint Mississippi accent. It also sounds more natural and less like putting-on a voice, like Henson's. Again, it's jarring because it's different and we had 20 years to get used to Whitmire's version, but I think it's good.

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Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2020, 09:25:45 PM »
Is Jordan Peterson busy at the moment?

Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2020, 09:34:52 PM »
Is Jordan Peterson busy at the moment?
probably passed out on pills on a couch in Serbia tbh

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Re: Muppets Now
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2020, 05:53:55 PM »
The first three series were released on official DVDs. I think each set has about an hour-two hours of extras, so not too shabby but if I recall correctly they're more general Muppet\Henson documentaries than anything too specific about the show.

But be warned the first series UK and US DVDs are cut and missing about 15-20 minutes (mostly down to music rights, but there are also some really odd removals akin to previous Monty Python's Flying Circus releases).  There was a "special anniversary collector's edition" of series 1 released a few years ago which claimed to be fully restored, but I've never been able to get confirmation of that (the printed running time is only 2 minutes different from the two previous cut releases).  That, plus the fact that series 4 and 5 (which both had some of the greatest episodes), The Jim Henson Hour and The Muppets Tonight are STILL unavailable has held me off buying them.

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