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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2020, 03:26:33 AM »
The Jarv Is stuff keeps coming up on my Spotify and I always skip it. It's too earnest and middle aged for me to deal with. :'(

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« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2020, 05:42:39 AM »
The Jarv Is stuff keeps coming up on my Spotify and I always skip it. It's too earnest and middle aged for me to deal with. :'(

It's really not very earnest though.

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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2020, 09:28:05 AM »
Okay, i'll shut up now but I genuinely had no idea Jarvis was so unpopular. I'd literally never seen a bad word said about him before this.

Also, what the hell is wrong with doing a Sainsbury's advert?! To quote JC's latest hit album, am I missing something? Are you all 14 year Bill Hicks fans??

Must I Evolve? is his best single since Bad Cover Version.

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2020, 09:37:41 AM »
This Is Hardcore is roughly four million times better than his first solo album

They ran tests mate

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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2020, 09:39:55 AM »
This Is Hardcore is roughly four million times better than his first solo album

They ran tests mate

Nah, it's not.

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2020, 09:43:57 AM »
He was good on " Celebrity Catchphrase".

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2020, 09:49:11 AM »
Must I Evolve? is his best single since Bad Cover Version.

What?!

When I first heard it I had to check it was Cocker and not a soundalike, I thought it was so bad. Couldn't believe it was written by the same guy who wrote Common People, Babies etc.

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2020, 10:07:36 AM »
I like this tune he did with Charlotte Gainsbourg and Air
https://youtu.be/ySJXwyVwz1s

And this sweaty cover of Temptation with Beth Ditto
https://youtu.be/WI6kAShlByw

Both are better than his solo career, but not as good as This Is Hardcore

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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2020, 10:10:14 AM »
I like this tune he did with Charlotte Gainsbourg and Air
https://youtu.be/ySJXwyVwz1s

And this sweaty cover of Temptation with Beth Ditto
https://youtu.be/WI6kAShlByw

Both are better than his solo career, but not as good as This Is Hardcore

The scientists have spoken!

The hell are you smoking to think that throwaway cover of Temptation is better than his solo career?

I'm not doing a good job of shutting up but all these awful Jarvis opinions are really grinding my gears.

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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2020, 10:11:52 AM »
What?!

When I first heard it I had to check it was Cocker and not a soundalike, I thought it was so bad. Couldn't believe it was written by the same guy who wrote Common People, Babies etc.

Get your ears cleaned out. It's not better than Common People or Babies but i'd much rather listen to it than later singles such as A Little Soul and This Is Hardcore.

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2020, 10:15:20 AM »
I think, if we're being honest, we're all just trying to make you mad and chuck your bowl of Corn Flakes sutin
 
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2020, 10:17:37 AM »
I think, if we're being honest, we're all just trying to make you mad and chuck your bowl of Corn Flakes sutin
 
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These godawful opinions started before I joined the thread.

I'm going back to the Bar Italia forum.

Re: Jarv is
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2020, 10:29:59 AM »
Greatly enjoyed his set at End of the Road last year. So there.

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2020, 10:41:21 AM »
Never heard of him.

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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2020, 11:06:26 AM »
Pulp got better the longer they went on.

You've got that almost the wrong way round (from Pulp Intro onwards, at least; I don't know the earlier stuff). Best to worst[1]:

His 'n' Hers
Different Class
Pulp Intro (yes, it's a comp, but one that basically rounds up otherwise unavailable tracks)
We Love Life
This is Hardcore

Hardcore is a wretched listen, two or three tracks excepted. We Love Life isn't that good, except Wickerman, which is possibly their very best track.
 1. God, I hate saying some music is "best" or "worst". Why am I even doing this?[1] I feel like those music magazines/books that tell you which tracks to "skip" and which to bother with on even a classic album, or tell you what the best moment in a song is, by time stamp.
 1. My hypocrisy is even worse than This is Hardcore.[1]
 1. Especially that instance of it.

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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2020, 11:09:47 AM »
I love We Love Life and while I like This Is Hardcore, I do find it absurdly overrated.

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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2020, 11:12:21 AM »
His 'N' Hers > Separations > Different Class > We Love Life > This Is Hardcore > Freaks > It

Jarvis (2006) > Beyond The Pale > Further Complications >>> Room 29

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« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2020, 01:03:10 PM »
His 'N' Hers > Separations > Different Class > We Love Life > This Is Hardcore > Freaks > It > Jarvis (2006) > Beyond The Pale > Further Complications >>> Room 29

I largely agree, although I think the solo albums have got worse as he's gone along. This latest bunch of chaff is embarrassingly awful. I cringe and have to turn 6 Music off for a while*.

*See also: Idles; Fontains DC; Lavinia Blackwater. Not an exhaustive list.

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« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2020, 02:20:11 PM »
I largely agree, although I think the solo albums have got worse as he's gone along. This latest bunch of chaff is embarrassingly awful. I cringe and have to turn 6 Music off for a while*.

*See also: Idles; Fontains DC; Lavinia Blackwater. Not an exhaustive list.

This was supposed to be two different sequences, separating his solo work from Pulp's. If i'm ranking it all together, i'd go...

His 'N' Hers > Separations > Different Class > Jarvis (2006) > We Love Life > Beyond The Pale > This Is Hardcore > Freaks > Further Complications > It > Room 29

I can't remember how I feel about the Relaxed Muscle album. It's been a while.
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« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2020, 02:54:53 PM »
Room 29 is like a beautiful experimental documentary, you blithering idiots!

It probably helps that I'm a huge fan of Chilly Gonzales, but to my ears it's a bit of a masterpiece. It paints such an evocative picture of the Chateau Marmont, especially with the college of audio clips throughout.

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2020, 03:05:53 PM »
Then he should give all that Sainsbury's fee and his millions to Help The Aged.  Or at the very least, the bass player of Salad.

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Re: Jarv is
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2020, 03:36:08 PM »
Separations better than Different Class?

And I thought this thread couldn't get any dafter.

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« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2020, 03:54:32 PM »
Separations better than Different Class?

And I thought this thread couldn't get any dafter.

Well, on par anyway. I didn't realise that was a particularly radical opinion.

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« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2020, 04:06:16 PM »
while I like This Is Hardcore, I do find it absurdly overrated.

Well now you're the one with the preposterous opinion

His N Hers > This Is Hardcore > Different Class > pre-HNH > We Love Life

Solo stuff is very good but just different.

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« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2020, 04:19:37 PM »
Well, Hardcore has simply never been one of my favourites. I'm probably alone here but i've never been arsed with the title track. I could also live without A Little Soul (their worst single possibly ever), Seductive Barry or Glory Days. I still like it, so this is all relative. It contains plenty of songs I love too.

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« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2020, 04:23:48 PM »
Room 29 is like a beautiful experimental documentary, you blithering idiots!

It probably helps that I'm a huge fan of Chilly Gonzales, but to my ears it's a bit of a masterpiece. It paints such an evocative picture of the Chateau Marmont, especially with the college of audio clips throughout.

I don't know who Chilly Gonzales is other than the guy who made an album with Jarvis Cocker that I don't really like.

Room 29 reminds of The Seduction Of Igmar Bergman by Sparks, which is one of my least favourite Sparks albums.

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« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2020, 04:29:44 PM »
The Room 29 live show in Edinburgh was brilliant but I just can't be bothered with the actual album.

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« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2020, 04:43:01 PM »
I'd probably rank Jarvis' first solo album above all Pulp's stuff apart from HNH and DC.
Not that I don't like Pulp's other stuff, I just really like his first solo album.

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« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2020, 04:51:09 PM »
Nice to see other people on here who rate Separations. Not as good as His N Hers, but then what is?

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« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2020, 05:08:36 PM »
I'd probably rank Jarvis' first solo album above all Pulp's stuff apart from HNH and DC.
Not that I don't like Pulp's other stuff, I just really like his first solo album.

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