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The Batman (2021)
« on: August 23, 2020, 04:29:16 AM »
love the emo look it's so good
they filmed in glasgow and liverpool apparently, looks to be lending the film a great atmosphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLOp_6uPccQ

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2020, 04:36:13 AM »
Looks incredible. I must have watched the trailer fifty times already. Which is only four times less than I saw BvS in cinemas. I'm not exactly objective when it comes to Batman.   

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2020, 06:17:41 AM »
Dark. Must have dark. Another dark take on Batman. Dark.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2020, 07:15:51 AM »
So we getting The Riddler this time then?

Looks visually distinctive but cant help finding it odd to see yet another depiction of batman. I know DC can always write it off as a multiverse thing but I find something really pompous in the way they mythologise their characters. Maybe wouldnt feel so negatively towards it if there werent years of Zack Snyder's 'vision' to try and forget.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2020, 10:13:17 AM »
Did he have to hit that bloke fifty times to make his point? Proper hard Batman should've dropped him in one. Then screamed "IM THE BATMAN EVERYBODY"

Yeah, The Riddler this time. Paul Dano, I think. Nice

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2020, 10:25:15 AM »
I saw them setting up 'Gotham' opposite the World Museum in Liverpool back in March. Apparently due to the outbreak they've only been able to film about 30% of it. What they've got looks fucking great though. Not normally too arsed by Batman, but this looks like they're really going in on what an unbalanced maniac he is, dressing up and going out in the dead of night to cripple people and break their bones.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2020, 10:30:28 AM »
Yeah, Matt Reeves is saying it's more focused on the detective side of the character, which sounds fresh and interesting

It is a bit worrying that they seem to be crowbarring in several other characters though, such as Catwoman, Penguin, Falcone. There's even rumours of Bane. For a first film in a new series that feels like overkill. But then Reeves is really good, so we'll see
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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2020, 10:39:14 AM »
'Gotham', the TV show is the best attempt at portraying the madness of the world of Batman. Shame the guy who played the Riddler in that didn't get the gig in the film.

And they should have had Sean Pertwee as Alfred. Nobody can 'Master Bruce' like him.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2020, 10:40:15 AM »
"Who the hell are you supposed to be?"

Why does every Batman film seem to be introducing him for the first time? Is it just so he can say, "I'm [the] Batman."

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2020, 10:48:37 AM »
I know most of the time the director doesn't have say over the trailer, but the use of such an obvious Nirvana song made me sigh. It's pure Snyder. Buuuuut, it's a decent trailer, with enough there to be interested in and feel excited about.

I think Jeffrey Wright will be a great Gordon. Not sure about Pattinson yet, as he looks a bit emo, but I'm glad they showed him smashing someone's face in, Batfleck style. I was worried this Bats wouldn't be needlessly murderous enough

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2020, 11:25:01 AM »
And they should have had Sean Pertwee as Alfred. Nobody can 'Master Bruce' like him.
Eh, I really don't like the Caine/Pertwee approach of making Alfred a typical "cor blimey, guv'nor" cockney, which it seems Serkis is following. Much prefer the Alan Napier or Michael Gough style.

Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2020, 11:32:33 AM »
Imagine if all the footage in the trailer is the whole of the last few minutes of the film, and in reality this is an origins story where the other two hours is showing his parents being mugged and killed at -250%  speed.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2020, 11:40:21 AM »
Did he have to hit that bloke fifty times to make his point? Proper hard Batman should've dropped him in one. Then screamed "IM THE BATMAN EVERYBODY"

Yeah, The Riddler this time. Paul Dano, I think. Nice

That's a good shout, lad can do that creepy, wounded thing that would work really well for The Riddler. I hope it ends with Bats stoving his head in with a bowling pin.

Need to find the article that mentioned it but when they were clarifying all this multiverse business there was a reference to 'year 2 Batman' which seems to tally with what they're doing here, not an origin story but still establishing the character within his world, more focus on actual detective work. Definitely good choice, just would be more interested if they hadnt already saturated the market with gritty batmens.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2020, 11:47:02 AM »
Imagine if all the footage in the trailer is the whole of the last few minutes of the film, and in reality this is an origins story where the other two hours is showing his parents being mugged and killed at -250%  speed.

This is only the 17th Batman film, I'm sure they'll get round to depicting this after vol 21 or 22.

Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2020, 11:49:27 AM »


Looks visually distinctive

I'm getting strong Fincher vibes, almost to the point of being derivative, in a trailer.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2020, 12:08:52 PM »
Did he have to hit that bloke fifty times to make his point?

That bothered me too, but I know I need to come to terms with the fact that it's unlikely I'll ever see the Batman from the comics that I grew up with on screen, who while violent was never excessively so.

Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2020, 12:32:44 PM »
Imagine if all the footage in the trailer is the whole of the last few minutes of the film, and in reality this is an origins story where the other two hours is showing his parents being mugged and killed at -250%  speed.

It's apparently set in Year Two of him being Batman so there'll be less origin stuff. Though that doesn't quite explain how the criminal doesn't know who he is.

I could quite easily see Phoenix's Joker fitting into that world. Though that would make that Joker quite old.


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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2020, 01:11:07 PM »
That bothered me too, but I know I need to come to terms with the fact that it's unlikely I'll ever see the Batman from the comics that I grew up with on screen, who while violent was never excessively so.

I think this is because there was a bit of a "not that guy from Twilight!" reaction for like 5 minutes after Pattinson was announced, so of course there's been a year long " actually, the guy from Good Times will be great" response. This bit is so those people can tweet "oh, check out the "wimpy" Twilight guy now!" and also regurgitate something Matt Reeves said about " emphasising the detective aspects", because we love to do marketing work for huge corporations for free these days.

I could certainly be won over by later trailers, but this just looks really unappealing to me, and I don't really get why people who are (justifiably) making fun of Snyder's "this is for grown ups" comments and/or had a dart board with the one sheet for Joker on it for six months seem to be cock-a-hoop over this slab of grimdarkness. I mean a slowed down Nirvana cover, really? Yes, Matt Reeves ' Apes films were good, but he's not a proven auteur yet.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2020, 03:02:58 PM »
Nice to see Trevor from EastEnders there.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2020, 03:05:06 PM »
Dark. Must have dark. Another dark take on Batman. Dark.

Yes, this one is so dark they have cast actual black people.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2020, 03:42:34 PM »
kind of into him punching the guy in the face about 50 odd times in one go. Hate the Purge style (or Batman Forever style if you want) face paint on those arseholes he destroys. Tumblr shit. Fan art level, get rid. Riddler looks good and taping peoples faces up and that, aye sound.

Whoevers doing Alfred sounds like Uncle Albert doing that I WET MESELF monologue from Only Fools And Horses

This looks good though. Odd sexy Batman, yeah whatever. More of that, less Michael Mann and less of whatever fucking Ben Affleck was.

Nirvana tune is a curious one though, reminded me of what they did with Ghost In The Shell and Suicide Squad, ala when they take an old song and make it Dubstep or Folk and doing a shit version with both in the process, like the opposite of those "wwwOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo" bass noises you get at the start of scenes in trailers when they fade in and out for seconds each. Modern trailers though I suppose
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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2020, 03:57:24 PM »
Yeah that Nirvana cover was a heap of mawkish sugar-coated cum.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2020, 04:09:02 PM »
Been jonesing for a trailer for this for yonks... looking proper dark and weird. Bats going Fight Club on the Joker thug dude just kind of reinforces the billionaire-beating-up-petty-street-thugs thing. I guess he's still young and they're going to have Alfred teach him not to seek vengeance and all of that.

'Something in the Way' is a surprizing tune to use, reckon they're trying to get across that 'this is a totally different Batman movie like you've never seen before!' Chimes oddly with Peter Sarsgaard compering the movie to a Pixies gig.

It's weird that Batman just hangs out with the police (as he does in some of the comics and in The Dark Knight), Surely somebody's gonna call in a big armed response unit and he's gonna be forced to take off his mask or summit.... only in real life I guess. Not in the movies, folks!

Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2020, 06:01:31 PM »
Yeah, The Riddler this time. Paul Dano, I think. Nice

Read that as Paul Danan at first. I mean, it could still be him.

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2020, 06:04:02 PM »
Wouldn't it be cool if one day they did a really dark, brooding bleak take on batuman

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2020, 06:32:48 PM »
Wouldn't it be cool if one day they did a really dark, brooding bleak take on batuman

People say this, but the Burton/Shumacher films are all schlocky fun, and there's no end of lighter Batman content away from the films. it's only really post-Nolan that we've got the darker film stuff, and it just fundamentally suits the character.

For me, it's less about the dark tone, more about the pursuit of realism. Personally, I don't really want a lighter take on the material, even if I would like a vision that was less grounded and more "Comic-booky". The world and character of Batman, while versatile, just really suits a brooding, dark vision.

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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2020, 06:56:34 PM »
The funniest part about him beating up the gang member, is the two completely unnecessary digs he chucks in when the bloke is already on the floor

People say this this trailer looks all grimdark, but that's straight from the gasman episode of Bottom

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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2020, 07:15:03 PM »
The funniest part about him beating up the gang member, is the two completely unnecessary digs he chucks in when the bloke is already on the floor

People say this this trailer looks all grimdark, but that's straight from the gasman episode of Bottom

I'm struggling to discern between this and those Nolan plops  - the definition of 'dark' seems to have been hijacked by Hollywood with its faux-dark emo shit.

Will they ever ask directors like Justin Kurzel or Lynne Ramsay to have a go at this?

Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2020, 07:44:23 PM »
batman punching people as hard and over the top as possible is great, if you're up against loads of teddy boys and you fuck the main one in so bad he has to crawl to the Maisonettes gig with Matchbox and Darts supporting  the others will go aye fuck that

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Re: The Batman (2021)
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2020, 07:51:57 PM »
I wonder how long the title committee went back and forth over including 'The'. Bet they stretched it out. The title people are paid by the hour.

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