ACAB at XR protest

[Garam]

On the inconvenient thing, is it inconvenient for your land to dry and have no food or water to drink?  Is it inconvenient for the land you live on to be underwater?  Is skin cancer inconvenient? I suppose it all depends on our tolerance levels and how much we're prepared to put up with.

Being this condescending doesn't reverse climate change, it just makes you come across as an enormous tool

[Buelligan]

Sorry for being an enormous tool.  Thing is, I'm such an enormous one that I don't understand why it's condescending.  True, completely true.  Would you be good enough to explain, so's I can make sure I don't upset you again?  Thanks in advance.

[Garam]

I mean, just be less overwhelmingly condescending? you can start by having some self-awareness, perhaps that would help

[Buelligan]

That's what I'm asking.  Asking what is condescending about what I said.  If you'd explain, that would help me to avoid it in future.  Thanks.

[bgmnts]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/04/war-on-plastic-could-strand-oil-industrys-300bn-investment

[BlodwynPig]

I mean, just be less overwhelmingly condescending? you can start by having some self-awareness, perhaps that would help

Why was she being condescending. I think climate distastes transcends your personal opinion.

[garbed_attic]

What do you all make of XR protestors blocking roads to printing presses, delaying Murdock owned papers from getting in the shops? The Sun says that there is fury from the public from this attack on press freedom.

[Bobloblawslawbomb]

What do you all make of XR protestors blocking roads to printing presses, delaying Murdock owned papers from getting in the shops? The Sun says that there is fury from the public from this attack on press freedom.

Best thing they've done so far.

[jobotic]

Excellent

[Garam]

Why was she being condescending. I think climate distastes transcends your personal opinion.

you fly back between Canada and the UK on a semi-regular basis

[BlodwynPig]

you fly back between Canada and the UK on a semi-regular basis

Go North.

Pick up twit.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

What do you all make of XR protestors blocking roads to printing presses, delaying Murdock owned papers from getting in the shops? The Sun says that there is fury from the public from this attack on press freedom.

Love it.

Can see no fury, only cheering and cries of MORE, MORE, MORE!

[Sebastian Cobb]

Priti Patel calling it an attack on our free press, lol.

[Buelligan]

The attack on the free press happens every time a paper sells to someone like Murdoch.

[pigamus]

 

What do you all make of XR protestors blocking roads to printing presses, delaying Murdock owned papers from getting in the shops? The Sun says that there is fury from the public from this attack on press freedom.

Now that I like. The killing children bit I'm less keen on.

[BlodwynPig]

Now that I like. The killing children bit I'm less keen on.

You what? citation needed

[Buelligan]

Yep, we desperately need that source.  I have combed google with keywords like Bristol ambulance child died XR hospital and come up dry as a Lynxman.  Frankly, I'm beginning to consider it may be something put about on FB to frighten the horses.  But who would make something like that up?  Not the people running this ballroom, I'm sure.

[Sebastian Cobb]

The attack on the free press happens every time a paper sells to someone like Murdoch.

Has there ever been a home secretary that actually wanted a free press? New Labour's history with this ain't much better.

[Buelligan]

I absolutely agree.  What politician actively wants people to have access to the unbiased truth?  Show me that person and I'll believe they're the best Prime Minister Britain never had.

[DrGreggles]

Yep, we desperately need that source.  I have combed google with keywords like Bristol ambulance child died XR hospital and come up dry as a Lynxman.  Frankly, I'm beginning to consider it may be something put about on FB to frighten the horses.  But who would make something like that up?  Not the people running this ballroom, I'm sure.

Don't know about Bristol, but this was the first result for xr cambridge ambulance:
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/extinction-rebellion-cambridge-blockade-roadblock-17761002

[jobotic]

You what? citation needed

We're not getting one. Which is amazing seeing as they deliberately stopped and ambulance with a dying child inside get to hospital and then actively prevented paramedics from treating that child. Apparently.

Patel calls the Murdoch action an attack on democracy as her boss dismantles the same in order to enrich him and his friends.

[Zetetic]

Don't know about Bristol, but this was the first result for xr cambridge ambulance:
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/extinction-rebellion-cambridge-blockade-roadblock-17761002

Which seems to suggest that it's not a problem in Cambridge at least.

Headline is a bit odd:
"Ambulances are going to re-route their entire journeys"

Presumably not their entire journeys. The bit around the roadblock, and only then when they're involved in non-emergency transport.

[DrGreggles]

Why is that not a problem?

[Flouncer]

Don't know about Bristol, but this was the first result for xr cambridge ambulance:
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/extinction-rebellion-cambridge-blockade-roadblock-17761002

That's just saying that they're going to re-route journeys around a road block, and XR are saying they would let an ambulance through it anyway. If there's any evidence that someone has died as a result of these protests I'd be interested to see it. SGN's story sounds so appalling, I would have thought the right wing media would be all over it like a rash - they love painting protestors in a bad light and 'Climate Change Protestors Kill a Kiddy' is exactly the sort of thing to whip their readers up into a frenzy.

[Buelligan]

Why is that not a problem?

Surely we need some balance and perspective about this - otherwise, why not just ban all traffic from any road that might impede an ambulance.  We don't do that because we recognise that there is not ever just one priority. 

[Zetetic]

Why is that not a problem?

At the very least "ambulances in non-critical situation undertake minor detour" seems less of a problem than "avoidable death of child".

[Zetetic]

Of course, Daniel Baker routinely blocks access to A&Es with his vast quantities of chimp imagery, but the silence on that is deafening.

Google it, if you don't believe me.

[Buelligan]

Don't worry, I've seen it and yet, when people brought this up before, they were treated as if they'd just said that we should try not to destroy our own home planet.  I'm not even lying.

[DrGreggles]

That's just saying that they're going to re-route journeys around a road block

Why should they have to? The reason they would take that route in the first place is that it's the quickest and most direct way to the hospital.
Also longer journeys use more fuel. Why would they want all those vehicles to use more fuel?

and XR are saying they would let an ambulance through it anyway.

But they didn't - it's in the article, and they absolved themselves of any responsibility.
Plus no consideration was given to doctors, patients, medical staff or anyone else.

So, as I asked before, how does blocking roads and vandalism help save the planet?
Almost as if they're only interested in disruption and vandalism...

[Zetetic]

I think if I were only interested in disruption and vandalism, I might do something other than setup a mildly inconvenient roadblock and then allow emergency vehicles through it.