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Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2020, 08:51:08 PM »
He's had quite a bit of work done - have you seen his fyass recently?

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Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2020, 09:17:22 PM »
That's it.

Any good?

Yeah, pretty decent. They remind me of some band or other. Would have thought you would have heard some of their stuff.

http://https://youtu.be/6Fb96TzPpso

Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2020, 09:41:54 PM »
Yeah, I saw that too. Quite embarrassing, although David Palmer is a great drummer. I'm not sure exactly what the other two's beef is with Fry (Singleton left after Beauty Stab, White was in ABC for a while longer) but I reckon that they think he claimed all the credit for ideas that weren't solely his, and also was a bit of a user. But mine is not to reason why.
Singleton and White are co-credited on every ABC song they appeared on, so presumably if that was the issue, it's perhaps more Fry taking retrospective credit for ideas that maybe weren't his.

But then again, he's been the sole member of the "band" for about 30 years now, so he's the only one who's getting their perspective across.

Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2020, 09:51:26 AM »
Made in Sheffield is a pretty good documentary about the early years of these guys, plus fellow travellers like The Human League. It's on YouTube.

The highlight is at the end when Stephen Singleton recalls his reaction to the news two girls his brother hung out with at the local club had joined the Human League. "Don't be stupid, how can they be in The Human League, what are they going to do?" As it turned out, not that much. But it worked.

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Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2020, 12:44:11 PM »
At times it's hard to pick out what's Ann Dudley and what's Fairlight but it's so big and bright and shiny it doesn't matter.
The strings and brass were all real, arranged and conducted by Dudley and recorded at Abbey Road and Advision. The Fairlight at that point was being used for effects, overdubs and editing. Page R had not appeared by then, so it couldn't be used for drum sequencing.

Dudley had been brought in by Horn as a session keyboard player for the recording of Poison Arrow. Stephen Singleton wanted John Barry-style pizzicato strings on The Look Of Love, and Horn, who had bad experiences with string sections, wanted to do it using a string machine. Singleton brought in an Adam Faith record, played it to Horn and said 'A string machine will never sound as good as that!', Horn relented and the record company agreed to finance it as Poinson Arrow had been a hit. Horn asked Dudley to arrange and conduct the session while he stayed in the control room smoking dope. They then wanted Dudley to put strings on everything by the time they came to record the album.

On Poison Arrow, the first track Horn did with them, he took their demo and sequenced the drums on a TR808 and the bass on a Minimoog and got David Palmer and Mark Lickley to play along to them (though a Simmons SDS-V triggered by the 808's sequencer still can be heard in the final mix and all over the subsequent album).  By the time it came to record the follow-up The Look Of Love, they had already done the bass on a Minimoog and Palmer had obviously got the message as he'd gone out and bought a LinnDrum. Horn also insisted that the woman's voice saying 'Goodbye' had to be Fry's ex-girlfriend.

Horn was responsible for them writing All Of My Heart, as he said the album needed a ballad, an idea they originally met wih ridicule. He was also the cause of Mark Lickey being sacked and replaced by Brad Lang during the Lexicon Of Love sessions. He said that Lickley was holding them back and they needed a Bernie Edwards-type bassist (they later worked with Edwards on The Night You Murdered Love). With the arrival of Lang and with Dudley also playing keyboards, a lot of the album was recorded live without the need to play along to sequenced parts. To record Fry's vocals Horn would reserve seven tracks on the 48-track and get him to run through the song seven times. He would then patch together the final vocal take from the seven takes, rather than getting Fry to do retakes of individual lines or sections.

Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #35 on: September 09, 2020, 02:19:34 PM »
That's a fantastic post. Thanks for the info, I love details like that.

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Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #36 on: September 09, 2020, 07:53:03 PM »
Singleton and White are co-credited on every ABC song they appeared on, so presumably if that was the issue, it's perhaps more Fry taking retrospective credit for ideas that maybe weren't his.

But then again, he's been the sole member of the "band" for about 30 years now, so he's the only one who's getting their perspective across.

I presume Singleton and White are still getting royalties from the early ABC stuff being played on radio and adverts but they seem to have a personal grudge against Fry that I've never got to the bottom of.

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Re: listened to Lexicon of Love for the first time the other week
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2020, 08:08:39 PM »
The Lexicon of Love is a first class pop album, really excellent. I really like Beauty Stab as well, quite a different thing but also very good. After that they were a bit shite though. My memory of the Made in Sheffield bit with Singleton was him saying someone told him "our Joanne's joined the Human League" and him replying "Doing what?". Very amusing.

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