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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2020, 02:26:14 PM »
Turns out Angel Delight may be the Swiss army knife of deserts, with added Sooty/Wombles/Basil Brush

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2020, 02:37:35 PM »
Late to the party but North American chocolate is absolute toilets. Canadian stuff better than the Americans, but still pretty actively unappealing. If you aren’t going to a UK import store you can forget it, basically.

I ship 2 tubs of celebrations over from the UK at Christmas time and that’s about it for chocco in the Ferris household.

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« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2020, 03:40:34 PM »
Hershey uses some unique method to add milk to chocolate which introduces the vomit flavour. Americans just got used to it and now Hershey won't change the method to the better Swiss/European one.
Rather than travel to Europe to find out how to make milk chocolate (the manufacturing processes of which were still very closely guarded), Milton Hershey decided to try and make his own formulation for milk chocolate via trial and error (the process invented by Daniel Peter in 1887 involved mixing the milk with sugar and dehydrating it to form condensed milk or milk crumb).

Hershey found that the milk he had available could not stand up to his manufacturing process and the end product would rapidly go off before it could be sold. He switched to using milk from Holstein cows as it had a lower fat content, but it still didn't solve the problem. In the end, he decided to let the milk go sour (which produces butyric acid in the process, the main component in the smell of vomit and Parmesan cheese) before using it for production, which then left the end product more shelf stable. American consumers had very little exposure to European chocolate so they didn't know what it was supposed to taste like, so they lapped up his putrid creation.

He was also willing to cut corners in the name of profit in other areas. From 1909 Cadbury and other confectioners started a boycott on cocoa beans produced in the West African plantantions on Sao Tome and Principe due to a scandal that revealed they were being run using slave labour from Angola. The Cadbury brothers managed to persuade Frys, Rowntrees and Stollwerck (based in Cologne) to boycott the islands' produce, but Hershey refused and so capitalised on a cheap source of cocoa beans. The plantations were still using slave labour (in all but name - workers were being 'deported' to the islands) well into the 1950s.

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« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2020, 05:15:44 PM »
Great stuff, buzby.

Mind you, I don't think I can guilt shame anyone I know who eats Hershey bars (who are invariably those people who are obsessed with all things America, rather than anyone with actual discernible taste in chocolate) over the slavery association, given that was as far back as the 50s.

I will just send them pancreas' details who will escort them to a waiting area to be 'deported' to Grave.

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« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2020, 05:18:54 PM »
He was also willing to cut corners in the name of profit in other areas. From 1909 Cadbury and other confectioners started a boycott on cocoa beans produced in the West African plantantions on Sao Tome and Principe due to a scandal that revealed they were being run using slave labour from Angola. The Cadbury brothers managed to persuade Frys, Rowntrees and Stollwerck (based in Cologne) to boycott the islands' produce, but Hershey refused and so capitalised on a cheap source of cocoa beans. The plantations were still using slave labour (in all but name - workers were being 'deported' to the islands) well into the 1950s.

Fucking hell.

Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2020, 05:20:03 PM »
I don't like regular Hershey bars but Hershey Symphony bars are delicious, despite apparently not being that different ingredient-wise.

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The milk chocolate contains the identical ingredients used in the regular chocolate bars made by Hershey's, but have varying amounts of some ingredients (specifically cocoa butter, chocolate and lactose) in order to give a creamier flavor.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2020, 06:54:25 PM »
A few years ago I discovered what an Oreo was, and was sorely disappointed because we'd had better larger versions of them all along.

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« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2020, 06:56:36 PM »
Oreos have been here since the mid 90s though.  IIRC WH Smith was the first place to sell them.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2020, 06:56:42 PM »
I love Jamon Serrano ham but we bought a whole joint of the stuff last Christmas and we ate it into January and I got fucking sick of the stuff. Huge great gobs of salty heart-slaughtering shite but I loved it all the fucking same. Love me some salted, preserved, deathly meats honestly. Like those Polish Kabanos you can get in some Tescos. Literal raw, dried death but god I love em.

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« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2020, 07:05:29 PM »
A mate's wife is Polish and her parents have a small organic pig farm and on site smokery, so twice a year my mate and his wife get an enormous box of various cuts of smoked and preserved pork.  Best is the belly - melts in the mouth as is and when crisped up, wowsers.

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« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2020, 08:25:11 PM »
I'll permit that American chocolate is subpar, but come on this is just out of line.

I’ve only ever had one and it was fucking horrible, like a Netto sausage wrapped in a Happy Shopper cake. You’re welcome to them pal.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2020, 08:26:36 PM »
A mate's wife is Polish and her parents have a small organic pig farm and on site smokery, so twice a year my mate and his wife get an enormous box of various cuts of smoked and preserved pork.  Best is the belly - melts in the mouth as is and when crisped up, wowsers.

what is this? WHAT IS THIS?!

Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2020, 08:27:35 PM »
Root beer tastes like industrial effluent.

I’ve only ever tried it once, when McDonald’s sold it here in the 80s and it just tasted like stagnant water with a packet of Dentyne dropped in it.

Maybe I should try it and chance a corn dog again too but I’m pretty certain I was right the first time around.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2020, 08:32:09 PM »
what is this? WHAT IS THIS?!

Brexit Britain remoaners gone minotaur fucking mental mate.

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« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2020, 08:57:12 PM »
Brexit Britain remoaners gone minotaur fucking mental mate.

Ariadne (Jen Aniston): "Father, what a feast you have laid on for our people at these times of troubles"

King Minos (Peter Egan): "Verily daughter, we must feed our warriors for their FINAL BATTLE against the beast in yonder maze"

Serf (Declan Donnelly): "Lord, the main dish is ready"

King Minos: "Good, unlid IT..." *strangulated, quivering shout* "UNLID Itttt"

*gasps as lid is removed from the central dish amidst the glorious platter of meats*

Ariadne: "Fath...father...is that...is that?! Noooo!"

King Minos: "Yes, my child it is the head of (defeated hero from Mino4) Prince Blodwyn T. Pygge (Blodwyn Pig)...but do not cry, his flesh is fattened, sweet and you may still taste the salty tears that have precipitated on his hideously deformed face".

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2020, 09:07:08 PM »
King Minos: By the way, it will probably give you megashits.

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« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2020, 09:10:59 PM »
Brexit is our Bronze Age collapse isn't it?

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« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2020, 09:20:40 PM »
At the very least.

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« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2020, 09:34:10 PM »
Lucky we've got Nige F to see those Sea People cunts off.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2020, 09:47:51 PM »
Is there anything more off-putting than mashed potato presented in scoops like it's ice cream*. There's a deep sensory wrongness at work. I can even faintly taste the crappy claggy mush from looking at it.


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It's very '90s school dinners. The mash at school was always odd, too. Mind, I was more used to Smash at the time, so maybe the weirdy mash was actually proper potatoes.

It's a bit pedestrian but I wish Cherry Ripe bars from Australia were cheaper here. You can get them imported but they cost a bomb. Same with the nice pineapple-filled Dairy Milk from New Zealand.

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« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2020, 10:06:59 PM »
It's very '90s school dinners. The mash at school was always odd, too. Mind, I was more used to Smash at the time, so maybe the weirdy mash was actually proper potatoes.

It's a bit pedestrian but I wish Cherry Ripe bars from Australia were cheaper here. You can get them imported but they cost a bomb. Same with the nice pineapple-filled Dairy Milk from New Zealand.

There was a cheap pineapple filled bar I used to eat when I was working in NZ but I can’t remember what it was called. It wasn’t Dairy Milk but it was lovely. Weirdly, I found the cheap confectionary from places like Pak ‘N’ Save and New World to be really nice, rather than the Asda’s own inedible shite you get here. Which helped, cos everything premium branded  cost a fucking fortune.

Pams version of mint Viscounts were lovely.

Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2020, 05:53:42 AM »
I found a pristine scud magazine in a lay-by once called Lippen Der Lust. If that's not exotic foreign muck then I don't know what is. I still exalt the random lorry driver who left it there for me to pick up to this day.

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« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2020, 06:03:00 AM »
Fucking hell.

Still at it today aren't they? remember reading some article about there having very lax standards for their cocoa sources coming from plantations using child labour.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2020, 06:17:25 AM »
Rather than travel to Europe to find out how to make milk chocolate (the manufacturing processes of which were still very closely guarded), Milton Hershey decided to try and make his own formulation for milk chocolate via trial and error (the process invented by Daniel Peter in 1887 involved mixing the milk with sugar and dehydrating it to form condensed milk or milk crumb).

Hershey found that the milk he had available could not stand up to his manufacturing process and the end product would rapidly go off before it could be sold. He switched to using milk from Holstein cows as it had a lower fat content, but it still didn't solve the problem. In the end, he decided to let the milk go sour (which produces butyric acid in the process, the main component in the smell of vomit and Parmesan cheese) before using it for production, which then left the end product more shelf stable. American consumers had very little exposure to European chocolate so they didn't know what it was supposed to taste like, so they lapped up his putrid creation.

He was also willing to cut corners in the name of profit in other areas. From 1909 Cadbury and other confectioners started a boycott on cocoa beans produced in the West African plantantions on Sao Tome and Principe due to a scandal that revealed they were being run using slave labour from Angola. The Cadbury brothers managed to persuade Frys, Rowntrees and Stollwerck (based in Cologne) to boycott the islands' produce, but Hershey refused and so capitalised on a cheap source of cocoa beans. The plantations were still using slave labour (in all but name - workers were being 'deported' to the islands) well into the 1950s.

You know,  an American acquiantance I knew said that the segment of Red Dead Redemption 2 that takes place on a sugarcane and rum production island staffed almost entirely by slaves and indentured servants with no escape was "unrealistic" because "Slavery was gone by then".

I don't speak to him anymore.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2020, 09:19:33 AM »
Still at it today aren't they? remember reading some article about there having very lax standards for their cocoa sources coming from plantations using child labour.

This may or may not be the article you're referring to, but either way, it's a difficult and worthwhile read about some truly awful practices.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2020, 12:26:00 PM »
Guano, that foreign muck is bat shit expensive.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2020, 01:10:36 PM »
I wish we had Yoshinoya in the UK, it's cheap and fantastic. Bowl of rice and beef with some pickled ginger on top.

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« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2020, 02:06:55 PM »
I wish we had Yoshinoya in the UK, it's cheap and fantastic. Bowl of rice and beef with some pickled ginger on top.
Not hard to make that really is it.

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Re: Exotic Foreign Muck
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2020, 05:28:50 PM »


I got some stuff from a wet market in Wuhan, China a few months back and it made me feel a bit poorly to tell you the truth.

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