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Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« on: September 10, 2020, 07:03:13 PM »
Surprised it only finished its original run 5 years ago. Always enjoyed this show but the later years not so much. Interested to see how like the original it will be in terms of rounds. Lookalikes, next lyric etc.

https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/news/5934/never-mind-the-buzzcocks-sky/

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 07:14:05 PM »
Its peak for me was the Lamarr and Bailey years, although it was also good with Sean Hughes and watchable with Amstell.  But when they started rotating the presenters the rot set in really quickly.  You can sort of understand that thinking with HIGNFY (if you ignore the fact it's probably solely responsible for at least two of the most dangerous tory cunts since the 90s), but I don't think it worked at all for Buzzcocks.

Also, Sky 1 and "format change" - it will just be a light 7pm pop quiz won't it.

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2020, 07:18:12 PM »
The bottom of that article mentions Mark Lamarr has started doing comedy again, with a radio sitcom I'd never heard of. Good for him.

Re: returning formats like this, they all seem predicated on the idea that it's the format that people liked, not the comedians / writers. I don't see the point of buying the name, because fans of the original like me are grumpy old sods and won't like it, and younger fans will wonder at the name and why it references two bands whose careers were over 40 years ago.

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2020, 07:32:03 PM »
Its peak for me was the Lamarr and Bailey years, although it was also good with Sean Hughes and watchable with Amstell.  But when they started rotating the presenters the rot set in really quickly.  You can sort of understand that thinking with HIGNFY (if you ignore the fact it's probably solely responsible for at least two of the most dangerous tory cunts since the 90s), but I don't think it worked at all for Buzzcocks.


Yeah, it didn't work, the final series with Rhod Gilbert was a slight improvement, partly due to having a regular host giving at least some consistency.

Agreed about the best stuff being the Lamarr/Bailey era.

I also think after Lamarr left, it became less and less about music. Lamarr was and still is a music fan and the guests were more singers, band members etc than after he left. Then came the 'slebs & reality tv dullards.

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2020, 07:34:04 PM »
Anyone else think Bailey sometimes looked outright disdainful of Amstell's hosting technique?

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2020, 07:43:08 PM »
Anyone else think Bailey sometimes looked outright disdainful of Amstell's hosting technique?

I never thought so, but one of the rumours thrown around was Bill left because he didn't like the way it was going.  Pretty sure it was nothing more than rumour though, because that's when Bill worked solid for three or four years on world tours and those nature shows.

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2020, 07:48:58 PM »
Re: returning formats like this, they all seem predicated on the idea that it's the format that people liked, not the comedians / writers.

Yep. Often an issue, with film as well as TV.

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2020, 07:49:11 PM »
Not really rumours, he mentions it in one of his stand up shows, something about being unable to hum tunes to vapid indie bands any more or something.

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2020, 08:09:10 PM »
Lee Hurst and Tony Hadley for new team captains.[1]
 1. possibly.

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2020, 08:14:35 PM »
Hurst famously one of the worst live standup gigs I've ever experienced.  Support by Dave Johns was infinitely better and he got the better audience reaction too.

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2020, 08:19:01 PM »
Who needs this?

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2020, 08:23:45 PM »
Who needs this?

Lee Hurst and Tony Hadley?

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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2020, 09:34:26 PM »
Very strange to bring it back so quickly, we've barely had time to mourn it's passing. Went off it when it turned into Mark Lamarr being a bullying arsehole every week then they brought Simon Amstell in to do the same thing.

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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2020, 09:46:56 PM »
You can sort of understand that thinking with HIGNFY (if you ignore the fact it's probably solely responsible for at least two of the most dangerous tory cunts since the 90s), but I don't think it worked at all for Buzzcocks.

It would be a decent idea if it was also serving as an audition for a new full-time host.  I suspect it was chosen simply more as what-panel-shows-do, though.

I seem to remember that Adam Buxton shone.

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2020, 09:54:11 PM »
Ugh, how unpleasant.

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2020, 01:25:49 AM »
If Lamarr or Amstell aren't involved, it's just yet another boring panel show in the mix. At its best, it could be vicious and outrageous, sometimes unpredictable and borderline violent. I'm certain this won't be, as the final years of BBC's Buzzcocks showed.

Very strange to bring it back so quickly, we've barely had time to mourn it's passing. Went off it when it turned into Mark Lamarr being a bullying arsehole every week then they brought Simon Amstell in to do the same thing.

You went off it when it got good?

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2020, 11:06:21 AM »
Will this suffer from a lack of shared musical culture? The days when most people know what's in the charts are long gone, even X Factor has lost its cultural import, and although NMTB focused on indie as much as pop, indie is hardly a thriving genre either.

Plus people are a bit more sensitive about a bunch of white middle-class comedians/actors/presenters taking the piss out of black, female, LGBT, gender-non-binary, Lizzo-shaped, etc, acts. (And the music industry seems more about Beyonce than James Blunt these days: there seem to be fewer bland white male acts around.) I also really don't want to see any re-enactments of Megan/Cardi's WAP from middle-aged comedians. Although Adele will be fair game.

Fortunately I'm sure I can ignore it just as easily as the sports thing James Corden used to host.

Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2020, 11:24:41 AM »
Alan Carr or GTF

Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2020, 11:44:34 AM »
Zane Lowe.

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2020, 01:53:24 PM »
Plus people are a bit more sensitive about a bunch of white middle-class comedians/actors/presenters taking the piss out of black, female, LGBT, gender-non-binary, Lizzo-shaped, etc, acts.

Ah, if only there were a way of not having an overwhelmingly white male middle-class panel.

(Not a dig at you, a dig at panel show producers.)

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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2020, 06:04:11 PM »
Bill Oddie for host.

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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2020, 06:36:19 PM »
This would be the perfect vehicle for the return of Justin Lee Collins.

It would likely finally kill any remnants of his career. 

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2020, 06:39:17 PM »
Will this suffer from a lack of shared musical culture? The days when most people know what's in the charts are long gone, even X Factor has lost its cultural import, and although NMTB focused on indie as much as pop, indie is hardly a thriving genre either.


Completely agree. It would be a bit like bringing back Telly Addicts.

Noel: So, The Rumkee family, can you tell me who is the host of the Sky Comedy show Duck Quacks Don't Echo?

The Rumkee family: We don't have Sky. Ermm...Is it Little Mix? Her?

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2020, 07:01:31 PM »
The Rumkee family: We don't have Sky. Ermm...Is it Little Mix? Her?

You missed out the half hour lecture about why they don't have Sky.

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2020, 07:31:35 PM »
General consensus seems to be this had two “good eras” - the beginning to some point around the early noughties being the first, then a bit of an odd few years when Lamarr got increasingly bored and the identity parade became a baffling series of in-jokes involving pirate costumes and random returnees, and then the Amstell years (2006-9?) made it Big Telly again until he left and it slowly fizzled out with fewer caring each year. Few probably know they even had Rhod as a regular host at the end.

I remember there was a brief period where an episode feeling a slightly unhinged Amy Winehouse was seen as a “classic” and the audience were howling with laughter at her wacky antics, but by the time she died it got seen as a very sad and depressing 30 minutes of telly, up there with Paula Yates on HIGNFY and that episode of ‘Pointless’ with a clearly confused John Noakes in the advanced stages of dementia - none of which have been repeated for some time from memory. It was posted here a few years back that by the time it ended it appealed to almost no one, as older audiences didn’t know any of the guests anymore and younger audiences wondered who these middle-aged men were making fun of their favourite personalities. The Huey Morgan episode was the last time I remember it became a brief talking point again.

It was bloody good in its day though (both of them) - the Chris Moyles/Vic Reeves ep had me crying with laughter as a nine year old, and the Donny Tourette and Preston eps of the Amstell era are fabulous half hours. Fun fact is that I also know two blokes who were in the Identity Parade round, one was a drama pal and the other a comedian who ended up with a big role in the Disney remake of ‘Dumbo’ last year.

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Re: Never Mind The Buzzcocks Returning On Sky
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2020, 08:22:28 PM »
God that sounds heartbreaking about John Noakes. Wouldn't want to see that.



Although I did just check.

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2020, 10:03:45 PM »
...cos the other members of Blue, they all left the mothers of their children, didn't they?

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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2020, 10:15:54 PM »
General consensus seems to be this had two “good eras” - the beginning to some point around the early noughties being the first, then a bit of an odd few years when Lamarr got increasingly bored and the identity parade became a baffling series of in-jokes involving pirate costumes and random returnees, and then the Amstell years (2006-9?) made it Big Telly again until he left and it slowly fizzled out with fewer caring each year. Few probably know they even had Rhod as a regular host at the end.

I remember there was a brief period where an episode feeling a slightly unhinged Amy Winehouse was seen as a “classic” and the audience were howling with laughter at her wacky antics, but by the time she died it got seen as a very sad and depressing 30 minutes of telly, up there with Paula Yates on HIGNFY and that episode of ‘Pointless’ with a clearly confused John Noakes in the advanced stages of dementia - none of which have been repeated for some time from memory. It was posted here a few years back that by the time it ended it appealed to almost no one, as older audiences didn’t know any of the guests anymore and younger audiences wondered who these middle-aged men were making fun of their favourite personalities. The Huey Morgan episode was the last time I remember it became a brief talking point again.

It was bloody good in its day though (both of them) - the Chris Moyles/Vic Reeves ep had me crying with laughter as a nine year old, and the Donny Tourette and Preston eps of the Amstell era are fabulous half hours. Fun fact is that I also know two blokes who were in the Identity Parade round, one was a drama pal and the other a comedian who ended up with a big role in the Disney remake of ‘Dumbo’ last year.
Not for me - I thought the angrier Lamarr got, the funnier the show was. It was different - not like the we're-all-mates roast-style banter that seems to be the default for shows like that these days. Lamarr hated things.

It's been a long time since I saw it so my memory may be cloudy, but I found the Preston episode to be pretty weak; I'd have probably walked off if some smug twat was mocking my wife. But I've never particularly liked Amstell anyway, so I admit I may not be the best person to ask.

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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2020, 10:21:39 PM »
Fucking hell it had Phill Jupitus on it. Utter drivel. I like Lamarr being bored shitless with it, presumably because he's actually interested in music. That was it though.

Phill Jupitus. Noel Fielding. Paloma Faith.

And now it's on Sky probably Freddie Flintoff.

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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2020, 10:32:15 PM »
I must admit I thoroughly enjoyed the guest-host years. I say enjoyed, I mean I tolerated them. I say tolerated...

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