Frankie Boyle's New World Order - series 4 [split topic]

[Sin Agog]

New series has started. First ep here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwPyI8puGc8

It's always been a bit dry and awkward, but minus an audience it left me feeling like I had to put on moisturiser afterwards.  Glad to see Taskmaster went the audience laugh track route now.

[Old Nehamkin]

I'm not sure what I'm most excited about - Frankie's nihilistic truth-bombs about how fucked up the world is or the lengthy panel discussions where he confirms with several other millionaires that socialism is in fact racist.

[Bence Fekete]

I'm seven minutes in episode one and Sarah Pascoe and Miles Jupp have just expressed their sympathies to the Tory government (for the stress of having to handle the pandemic) and then Jamali Maddix made a racist joke about Filipinos while everybody laughs.

fuck this.

[sambwel]

I'm seven minutes in episode one and Sarah Pascoe and Miles Jupp have just expressed their sympathies to the Tory government (for the stress of having to handle the pandemic) and then Jamali Maddix made a racist joke about Filipinos while everybody laughs.

fuck this.

Sarah Pascoe's always had some pretty bad opinions on NWO but that stood out. Anyone in Britain trying to convince themselves, as she did, that the Tory handling of the pandemic compares at all well to many other countries has a bad case of Stockholm syndrome.

Anyway, the most recent episode I thought was pretty good, particularly the discussion of BLM.

[Sin Agog]

Aye, I dug the second ep.  Felt like the most sincerely leftie show they've done so far, even though when they brought up the hope of Corbyn, by rights they should have also mentioned their own contemporaneous smear attempts.  Sara Pascoe I do not like here, though.  Might be she's just a bit better in long form when talking about serious subjects, but comments like '[Keir Starmer's Labour] needs to be braver' sound so fucking gormless in this context, especially as a braver Starbour means an even more pronounced ostracisation of the left.  She then followed it up by making the salient point that all politicians are imperfect.  Cheers fer that.

Otherwise, really liked Dana Baptiste. Haven't seen as candid a treatise on race as his on the BBC in aeons.  And I only brought up that self-same James Baldwin interview here today so it was a bit of a blindsind seeing a clip of it at the beginning of the ep.

[Pink Gregory]

That's a shame, I always got the impression that Jamali Maddix was fairly switched-on.

Dane Baptiste is ace, he's got this way of discussing important subjects with due reverence without straining too hard to be funny, just engaging.  There's no concession to 'oh, but people are working hard and it'll be alright."

[holyzombiejesus]

Thought the second episode was really good too. At times felt like the closest we've got to something like After Dark, although that says more about the dearth of interesting and thoughtful television rather than the quality of a programme hosted by a Sun columnist. The line about Starmer looking like someone playing a Prime Minister in a Spice Girls video made me laugh out loud and that  line from the woman who basically said Corbyn was right but "couldn't lead" was a load of old horse shit which a better host would have challenged. Odd how this has ten writers too (including Novara's Eleanor Penny); do they write the lines for the guests as well as FB?

[C_Larence]

Only watched the first episode, but I absolutely loved it. The way the panel discussed videos that had been circulating on social media weeks ago and added absolutely nothing to them except for "I liked the part where this happened" was a perfect satire of the vapid futility of topical TV shows in an online world. I loved when they showed recent clips of Trump saying something stupid, and then a clip from 7 years ago of Joe Biden talking about guns. Definitely nothing else they could have used from more recently to make fun of him so great choice there, very switched on.

[rue the polywhirl]

Should be called Frankie's New World Order With Sarah Pascoe Who Features In Every Episode. For a permanent fixture she provides about a tenth of the humour or insight that any other guest would bring. Just mix it up by having an empty chair or Linda Smith hologram or Joe Pasquale in drag and in character as Sarah Pasquale. Anyone else. Otherwise it's a serviceable show.

[Spiteface]

Frankie Boyle blocked me on Twitter.

I think it was because I said something (not directly at him, btw) about him being a cog in the BBC propaganda machine now.

[Puce Moment]

Should be called Frankie's New World Order With Sarah Pascoe Who Features In Every Episode. For a permanent fixture she provides about a tenth of the humour or insight that any other guest would bring. Just mix it up by having an empty chair or Linda Smith hologram or Joe Pasquale in drag and in character as Sarah Pasquale. Anyone else. Otherwise it's a serviceable show.

I want to like her, I really do.

[ajsmith2]

Boyle's nihilistic stand up stylings always seems like a really, really poor fit with the bland consensual chumminess of this show's topical chat show format. Obviously I know Boyles stand up persona is just that, but you have to invest in it for it to work and it doesn't make sense that Boyle the stand up persona would want to share airtime with other guests, or treat them with indulgence and respect, particularly when their responses and insights are (largely) so vanilla and nothingy.

[sambwel]

I think you're confusing 'nihilist' with 'misanthrope'. His standup persona has never really been misanthropic, just very judgmental. There's no reason he can't be pally with people he gets on with well enough. And it's always been clear he DOES have a rapport with everyone he's had on NWO.

[jobotic]

Saw ten minutes of this last night. What a cunt Boyle is. Romesh Ranganathan made some vaguely thoughtful observations about climate change then Boyle said that XR were middle class. Amazing stuff.

Then everyone acted like he shockingly and daringly crossed a line when he referenced....Michael Hutchence's death.

[lauraxsynthesis]

Absolute scenes over the weekend with folks on Twitter reminding Boyle his programme had been part of the campaign to keep Labour out of power in 2019. He's blocked lots of the shitpost Left and made wild accusations of antisemitism.

I've got a ticket for his London gig tomoz (bought months ago) and suspect it'll be the last time I see him live. Might wear a Corbyn tshirt

[Cold Meat Platter]

Yeah he's melted spectacularly. He's a huge fraud.
Seen references to him maybe going for a 'Glinner speedrun'

[dontpaintyourteeth]

He's on his, what? Fourth day of this now. Complaining about people quote tweeting him but he's still keeping replies turned off. Funny how famous people can't ever take criticism on there. Log off Frankie

[Egyptian Feast]

He's sounding more and more dril-like as he goes on.

I'm one of those comics who splits opinion: people hate me for different reasons

Quote tweeting is the modern equivalent of repeating what someone said in a silly voice during an argument

who the fuck is scraeming "LOG OFF" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never log off

[dontpaintyourteeth]

please don't put in the paper i got mad

[Famous Mortimer]

Quote tweeting is the modern equivalent of repeating what someone said in a silly voice during an argument

Please stop reminding us famous people of what we said in the very recent past

[dontpaintyourteeth]

been pointed out to me over there that it's actually five days of this now

[jobotic]

Time to knock the pretending to ne left-wing on the head now Frankie, get back to the disabled children jokes. There's a whole audience out there who love that shit. Maybe get a gig at the next Tory party conference?

[Virgo76]

Absolute scenes over the weekend with folks on Twitter reminding Boyle his programme had been part of the campaign to keep Labour out of power in 2019.

In other words, in 2019, he committed the unforgivable crime of making a few jokes about Jeremy Corbyn and Labour. When will our comedians learn that they are not allowed to do this?

[jobotic]

That's right, he should be in a gulag

[Wayman C. McCreery]

I think this is one of those things that's a big deal to certain circles on Twitter but is completely unremarkable to anyone who isn't permanently online.

I've just had a look at his account expecting to see some Glinner-style madness but he's had a disagreement with someone who didn't like Baddiel's bit about Corbyn on his show a few years ago and that's about it.

[idunnosomename]

unfunny cunt i hope his beard gets so bushy he suffocates inside it and dies

[Martin Van Buren Stan]

He's sounding more and more dril-like as he goes on.

I'm one of those comics who splits opinion: people hate me for different reasons

Yeah some people hate you because you made fun of a disabled child and others hate you because you bullied a female swimmer for her looks. Others hate you because you're a shit comedian