US Elections 2020 III - Mo Cuntery for Old Men

[jamiefairlie]

is it not the libs who couldn't give less of a fuck about foreign policy? that's the centrists mate. admittedly my experience is recent so maybe it used to be different but the US left seem, at worst, fine on foreign policy these days.

prime example would be the power of the Israel lobby weakening over the last few years.

Centrists are the left as far as Americans understand the term. The rest are subhuman commies.

[mr. logic]

I'm pretty sure he said "he's wrong". Unless he said "he's gone" a separate time, I definitely heard the former.

Ah, possibly. I definitely thought I heard, 'If he said that, he's gone.' As in he's going to get sacked.

[steve98]

What a fucking cunt.

Heehee :)

[Pearly-Dewdrops Drops]

You all seem to be confusing "has more or less decent positions on" or "talks about sometimes" with my point that it is not a priority of leftist politics in the United States (or the United Kingdom for that matter). There is very little direct engagement with the horrific policies that are taking place on a daily basis right now under the Trump administration. There is far more emphasis on domestic issues than halting American empire. Sanders is better than other politicians yes, no question, but he is still barely even to the left of center on foreign policy in general and he certainly did not run his campaign on those issues. Simply not a priority to most American leftists.

[C_Larence]

Ah, possibly. I definitely thought I heard, 'If he said that, he's gone.' As in he's going to get sacked.

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1311127476391772160?s=21

It's right at the end of this clip, definitely "wrong" not "gone".

[Ferris]

prime example would be the power of the Israel lobby weakening over the last few years.

Remind me what city the American embassy to Israel is?

[mr. logic]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1311127476391772160?s=21

It's right at the end of this clip, definitely "wrong" not "gone".

Yeah, fair enough. Thanks. Can't believe Trump was right all this time about fake news.

[Dog Botherer]

Remind me what city the American embassy to Israel is?

meant on the Dem side/left. should have been more clear.

[greenman]

There's a possibility that Trump winning brings about such a shock to the system that it precipitates global revolution then a 1000 years of love, peace, harmony, and justice. It's just such a remote and dumb possibility that it's not really worth considering.

Although I think the realistic outcome of Biden winning is that the left wing aspect of the Dems doesnt get a sniff of power for at least 8 years, maybe longer.

The republican correction from Trump losing to me seems most likely to merely be one of PR, someone a bit more "presidential" who follows pretty much the same lines politically but probably with added hawkishness.

[Wonderful Butternut]

Another 4 years of Trump isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long you've already lived a fulfilling and complete life without regrets.

[Cuellar]

I think if I had to vote for either Boris or Trump I'd vote Trump.

[Thomas]

Would remaining president protect Trump from prosecution or investigation regarding his tax affairs? Is there any desperate personal reason that Trump might want to cling to the Oval Office desk (besides ego)?

You'd imagine that, for practical reasons, he might be happy to pass the job on by now. He doesn't strike me as having an ideological mission to reshape America. Only to horde wealth for the Trump family/brand. Perhaps he just really wants those two terms to his name.

[QDRPHNC]

He's a very sensitive man, so losing would remind him that nobody likes him. Wonder how many Big Macs he'll eat that night.

[Urinal Cake]

The Dem establishment would be reluctant to go after Trump since it would result in tit-for-tat by the Republicans. Also the Court system is stacked against them.  I can see state prosecutors etc going after him or more likely members of his family.

I think he really wants two terms otherwise he's a loser. He seems to have found a team that will do all the hard work for him.

[QDRPHNC]

Has anyone else seen Gavin McInnes without his beard? No wonder he's so angry.

[TheBrownBottle]

Would remaining president protect Trump from prosecution or investigation regarding his tax affairs? Is there any desperate personal reason that Trump might want to cling to the Oval Office desk (besides ego)?

You'd imagine that, for practical reasons, he might be happy to pass the job on by now. He doesn't strike me as having an ideological mission to reshape America. Only to horde wealth for the Trump family/brand. Perhaps he just really wants those two terms to his name.

There most likely is a Berlusconi strategy to staying in office = avoiding prosecution. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

The problem is the man has made his name on bluster & bullshit - and when someone blusters and bullshits it becomes hard to pin down what (if anything) they believe.  I agree that he isn't ideological - I doubt he thinks deeply about much.  Reading, by all accounts, bores him.  He's a gold-plated pub bore; ill-informed, racist, and loud.  He'll want a second term to protect his ego rather than having any concrete manifesto for a new America.  Personally, I think that makes him both more scary and less scary - it's all about his whim & caprice.  Sometimes I think he says racist shit not only because he thinks it (he is a racist, after all), but because he gets fawning support & praise from his base for it.  He's a twitter addict, and loves getting likes & instant positive feedback for saying hateful shit.  A racist Glinner.

[Mister Six]

Would remaining president protect Trump from prosecution or investigation regarding his tax affairs? Is there any desperate personal reason that Trump might want to cling to the Oval Office desk (besides ego)?

Yes, being president gives him immunity to prosecution. However, IIRC NY state is waiting to clap the cuffs on him as soon as he exits the White House, and presidents can't pardon state convictions so he might be fucked there. Holding on for another four years might carry him over the statute of limitations depending on the charge though.

[chveik]

could they arrest him for all the rapes he's done?

[Menu]

Reading, by all accounts, bores him.

In the same way as sailing a dinghy across the atlantic ocean bores me.

[Pearly-Dewdrops Drops]

Yes, being president gives him immunity to prosecution.

Only because his own administration made this up, knowing it would be affirmed by his handpicked judicial nominees if challenged. That is the ultimate reason he will never be convicted of a crime (even in the alternative universe where the Democrats would pursue charges): his own flunkies on the Supreme Court would immediately overturn any conviction.

[Ferris]

Only because his own administration made this up, knowing it would be affirmed by his handpicked judicial nominees if challenged. That is the ultimate reason he will never be convicted of a crime (even in the alternative universe where the Democrats would pursue charges): his own flunkies on the Supreme Court would immediately overturn any conviction.

Can SCOTUS get involved in state level prosecutions though? I would assume that goes to the state Supreme Court. Maybe you can appeal via a federal circuit court and escalate it that way? I actually don't know, and I doubt the circuit courts would be interested in the case of a tax dodger anyway unless his lawyers could make the case for an unfair prosecution or something.

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

Can SCOTUS get involved in state level prosecutions though?

ah bless, you expect them to play by the rules

[Ferris]

ah bless, you expect them to play by the rules

Well, me and the 10th amendment yeah.

[Rizla]

https://twitter.com/AnarchoBreadism/status/1309818324847652864



Fucking LOL

[PlanktonSideburns]

so is he pro communist now?

guess im going to have to read the little mini dissertation he churns out with each comic

[PlanktonSideburns]

oh i see

[Ferris]

What on earth is that about

[Rizla]

What on earth is that about

An internet prankster has done a pro-socialism cartoon in the Ben Garrison style. In fact he's done several but this may be the best.

Look at Marx's right leg. The artist has given him a massive knob.

[Ferris]

Oh I got that, I just didn't realize it was a parody. I suppose if you are laughably easy to lampoon them's the breaks

[Pearly-Dewdrops Drops]

Well, me and the 10th amendment yeah.

Which is conclusively "interpreted" by.. the Supreme Court. Anyway, I think to take an appeal from a final state court case all they need is some federal hook, which they could easily invent regarding the prosecution of a recent president. You may be right though, once Trump is out of office they would possibly rather cut him loose than further tarnish the court's reputation and its ability to dismantle the welfare state.