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Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger

Started by BlodwynPig, October 07, 2020, 06:42:38 PM

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greencalx

Keith really had bungled this one. By throwing him out, but not throwing him out, he's pissed off both wings of the party. Maybe this is what he means by unity?

holyzombiejesus

QuoteJeremy Corbyn has been told the Labour whip will be suspended for at least three months, as more than a dozen members of the party's governing body attacked Keir Starmer, saying the decision "flies in the face of natural justice."

The Guardian understands that the chief whip, Nick Brown, wrote to Corbyn on Thursday night saying the whip had been suspended for three months pending an investigation into whether he had broken the parliamentary Labour party code of conduct. Corbyn has been told the suspension will be kept under review and his conduct during the suspension will be taken into account.

In the most open declaration of civil war in the party yet, a letter from left-aligned members of Labour's National Executive Committee said they expected the whip to be returned as a consequence of the NEC panel decision on Tuesday to give the former leader a formal warning and restore his party membership.

He was suspended from the party in late October over comments he made in the wake of a report by the equalities watchdog about antisemitism in the party. He said the scale of the problem had been "dramatically overstated for political reasons" by opponents and the media.

"The decision of the leader the following day to withhold the whip from Jeremy Corbyn MP is an act of deliberate political interference in the handling of a complaint," the letter to the general secretary, David Evans, says.

"It defies the decision of the NEC panel, is a matter of double jeopardy that flies in the face of natural justice, it undermines the rule book and it is precisely the type of action found to be unlawful indirect discrimination by the Equalities and Human Rights Commission [EHRC] report."

The letter criticised Starmer's statement that the Jewish community had no faith in the process of the NEC's disputes panel, which it said was a "direct criticism of the decision reached by the disputes panel on Tuesday ... This criticism has been joined by that from other MPs, no doubt following the lead of the leader."

The letter said the NEC panel received legal advice on the day about the sanction given to Corbyn. "This is an unacceptable attack on the lay volunteers elected to
uphold the rule book, it is direct political interference and it is unacceptable."

It said the party would now face legal action as a result of the decision and said it was "unconscionable" that NEC members should be put in this position.

It called on Evans to reprimand Starmer for his actions, which it says were "intended to undermine confidence in the dispute process and for taking a decision that is directly contradictory to the NEC panel decision".

Corbyn's lawyers have also written to Labour calling for him to be allowed back into the parliamentary party. It is understood his legal team have also made subject access requests to several key members of Starmer's team and staff in the party's complaints unit.

The lawyers' letter to the party questions whether procedures were properly followed when the decision not to restore the whip was taken.


honeychile

"Victoria sponge. Spoon or fork, i'm easy"
"Ultimately, Be here now was a casualty of drug excess. A great shame, because they had another What's the story in them"
Commission for Racial Acknowledgment
A rising tide lifts all lifeboats
"I have an enduring respect for the taste of matzos"
"The diversity is even more vibrant than i first thought"
Legal beagle

Shoulders?-Stomach!

I'd back Corbyn to know the Labour rule book better than, or at least as well as Starmer, but I'd back Starmer to monster Corbyn's 'legal team'.

Here's a pocket*: Maybe Starmer wants a long drawn out battle over this given that it will be so difficult for him to get publicity as an opposition party. He can be seen as slaying a dragon rather than just spaying insect repellant on a wasp.





*this is what I thought Chris Morris was saying to Peregrine Worsthorne



Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on November 19, 2020, 08:51:15 PM
I'd back Corbyn to know the Labour rule book better than, or at least as well as Starmer, but I'd back Starmer to monster Corbyn's 'legal team'.

Here's a pocket*: Maybe Starmer wants a long drawn out battle over this given that it will be so difficult for him to get publicity as an opposition party. He can be seen as slaying a dragon rather than just spaying insect repellant on a wasp.





*this is what I thought Chris Morris was saying to Peregrine Worsthorne

I dunno, he seemed pretty rattled the other other morning when he was clambering into his car. If he's playing 4d chess he's bloody good at playing a reactive, short-sighted incompetent with no values.

Buelligan

Tremendous scenes.  I'm so glad that Jez is fighting back but so sad he has to.

And what, oh what, is wrong with Keith?  It's like a joke.  He literally cannot hold a line and he doesn't seem to have even the vaguest grasp of natural justice.  How can anyone back him at this point?

Sebastian Cobb

It's baffling, I thought it might make sense for him to rise as a lawyer, you don't necessarily need to have a stance, or a position on stuff, just be really good at interpreting legalese, a good attention to detail, etc. But he's show little respect for due process and seems to continually make short-sighted decisions to appease whatever centre right cunt is moaning at him.

Also much like tinge, there's some schadenfreude in seeing both kieth and the blairites realise that believing you're blair doesn't make you automatically successful. As the cracks start to show, and the buyers remorse sets in, there's already the 'oh, actually maybe he's more like Kinnock who sets it up for the next bastard' chat, which is terrifying for the left.


BlodwynPig

3 more years of this Kieth? Do you really want this? How badly?

RESIGN KIETH, LIKE I'VE BEEN CALLING YOU TO DO SINCE MARCH



jobotic

I fucking fell for that until the name of the reporter was pointed out to me.

bgmnts

Quote from: Buelligan on November 19, 2020, 09:32:19 PM
He literally cannot hold a line and he doesn't seem to have even the vaguest grasp of natural justice.

Bit weird for a human rights lawyer.

According to his wiki he actually identifies as a socialist, which is madness. However, he did grow up in Surrey, so fuck knows what passes for socialism in the county with 5.6 trillion worth of property.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: BlodwynPig on November 19, 2020, 09:40:09 PM
3 more years of this Kieth? Do you really want this? How badly?

RESIGN KIETH, LIKE I'VE BEEN CALLING YOU TO DO SINCE MARCH

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Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: bgmnts on November 19, 2020, 09:56:19 PM
According to his wiki he actually identifies as a socialist

Probably not updated since he won the bid. It was very much 'I'm grown up now' on Desert Island Discs the other day.

https://twitter.com/shirleymush/status/1328282189553864705

although https://twitter.com/shirleymush/status/1328283181737504768

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on November 19, 2020, 08:56:35 PM
I dunno, he seemed pretty rattled the other other morning when he was clambering into his car.

I don't think he's a very good driver.


bgmnts

"Keir mate you've got some tomato sauce on your belly."
"Nah that's just my ab stain."


"Alright lads, hung parliament, closest to the bull wins"
"YES!"

"Starmer, do you have any al dente pasta i'm starvin?".
"No, sorry, just soft left."

"Starmer FC have yet again been unable to field 11 registered players in their upcoming match, offering no opposition for the seventh time in a row."


holyzombiejesus

Quote from: Buelligan on November 20, 2020, 07:05:16 AM
Just listening to Ian Lavery talking to Huffington Post.  What a lovely wise old owl he is.

He's great, isn't he? There was a bit of a push to get him to stand for the leadership. No way he would have won, in fact would have probably handed Starmer an easier victory but it's a shame that these people are now so ostracised in the new party.

Buelligan

Yep, it's eggs like him that make it all worthwhile.  The fact that they're so brave and stand firm in the face of never ending aggression, give courage to us all.

Paul Calf

It's funny isn't it? All those fucking centrist haemorrhoids whining and keening about being poilitically homeless when they could just have fucked off to join the Lib Dems have now ostracised a massive bloc in the membership who genuinely have nowhere to go.

Cunts. I hope they choke on it.




Sebastian Cobb



Sebastian Cobb

There was another nice one of him sending a video message of condolence to some woman from Liverpool after her father died.