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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2460 on: November 21, 2020, 05:25:28 PM »
He should be suing these people.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2461 on: November 21, 2020, 05:32:11 PM »
Maybe she gets to have breakfast with Starmar or something.

A bottle of HoC plonk.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2462 on: November 21, 2020, 05:41:30 PM »
I remember hearing her babble on about something a year or so ago and thinking to myself how very far beyond her capacity she'd been promoted.  She's embarrassing but just because she's old doesn't give her licence to lie in public about another person.  She does deserve to be sued and the BBC should issue an apology.  As HZJ so rightly says it's utterly disgraceful.  I imagine many of these people took a dim view of Trump and they're behaving just like him.  Publicly. 

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2463 on: November 21, 2020, 06:15:22 PM »
A bottle of HoC plonk.

A signed bottle of HoC plonk. He's not a cheapskate, you know.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2465 on: November 21, 2020, 07:33:02 PM »
Trying to get an invite to HIGNIFY, where I will tar and feather bomb 4 comedians and Hislop.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2466 on: November 21, 2020, 07:35:43 PM »
Ash Sarkar has some interesting thoughts to share, as usual -

https://novaramedia.com/2020/11/19/no-other-minority-keir-starmers-silence-on-the-islamophobia-report-speaks-volumes-about-labours-hierarchy-of-racism/

I did say "single-issus anti-racist" has a lot going for it as a murder weapon.  If that is your thing.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2467 on: November 21, 2020, 09:15:47 PM »


stolen from: https://twitter.com/FreeNorthNow/status/1329884333595881475

They can bite my hairy cock. Like many similar organisations, their definition of ‘the north’ excludes many former pit towns.

And these cunts continue to wonder why bellwether East Midlands constituencies continue to vote Tory. Fuck them.

Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2468 on: November 21, 2020, 09:40:55 PM »
They can bite my hairy cock. Like many similar organisations, their definition of ‘the north’ excludes many former pit towns.

Presumably because the party is a northern independence movement, not a former-pit-town independence movement. That notwithstanding:

Quote from: The Northern Independence Party
NIP defines Northumbria on our terms. We acknowledge that Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Durham, Northumberland and Cheshire are all distinct lands with long histories and strong cultural identities. As such, we refuse to be reduced to lazy stereotypes. It’s also true that the North is a slippery concept. It is difficult to pin down on a map. For this reason, we respect the rights of anyone in ‘border territories’ to join us subject to a local referendum.

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And these cunts continue to wonder why bellwether East Midlands constituencies continue to vote Tory. Fuck them.

I don't think this statement makes sense unless you take the word "bellweather" out.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2469 on: November 21, 2020, 09:46:36 PM »
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NIP defines Northumbria on our terms. We acknowledge that Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Durham, Northumberland and Cheshire are all distinct lands with long histories and strong cultural identities.

It's self-aggrandising bullshit; show me a county or region about which no-one will say something like this. I'm fucking tired of this micro-regionalism. It's worse than nationalism.

Also, whoever wrote that has clearly never been to North Yorkshire.

Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2470 on: November 21, 2020, 09:57:22 PM »
It's self-aggrandising bullshit; show me a county or region about which no-one will say something like this. I'm fucking tired of this micro-regionalism. It's worse than nationalism.

It's an independence movement. It's literally nationalism.

Though i'm not sure how to come up with any kind of democratic framework which recognises nations (claiming authority and conferring citizenship on the national basis) without being functionally nationalist.

Not that i support NIP (although as with the SNP, i can appreciate the means-to-an-end approach). I think pushing for devolution at english regional levels is a good idea though.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2471 on: November 21, 2020, 10:02:13 PM »
Also, I enjoyed looking at this -


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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2472 on: November 21, 2020, 10:08:49 PM »
Says Sir Keith Starmer to you/and others

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2473 on: November 21, 2020, 10:12:11 PM »
The idea that he gets quite annoyed about being called Kieth/Keith is really fucking funny.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2474 on: November 21, 2020, 10:15:48 PM »
The idea that he gets quite annoyed about being called Kieth/Keith is really fucking funny.

Is there anyone likely to interview him who might call him Keith by accident? Surely we can team up with a right winger on this occasion?

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2475 on: November 21, 2020, 10:22:09 PM »
They can bite my hairy cock. Like many similar organisations, their definition of ‘the north’ excludes many former pit towns.

This is basically how I see Britain economically and culturally.


Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2476 on: November 21, 2020, 10:42:12 PM »
my dream:


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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2477 on: November 21, 2020, 10:45:04 PM »
We’re all Cymmers now

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« Reply #2478 on: November 21, 2020, 11:06:08 PM »
my dream:



Yeah, cheers. We're not actually all cunts in the purple zone you know.

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« Reply #2479 on: November 21, 2020, 11:09:06 PM »
my dream:



This is being extremely generous to Norfolk and Lincolnshire.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2480 on: November 21, 2020, 11:17:39 PM »
There's absolutely loads more of England that needs paving over than what's marked in that map. You've seen how much of it elected Tory MPs, right?

Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2481 on: November 21, 2020, 11:25:45 PM »
As the revolution takes hold in all corners of the land, tories will flee or be driven into their natural habitat - their Eden - where their numbers will unfortunately be sufficient to survive in a stable settled form.

Yeah, cheers. We're not actually all cunts in the purple zone you know.

There will be automatic asylum for all suffering english people wishing to flee what remains of their hell.

Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2482 on: November 22, 2020, 08:16:43 AM »
Is there anyone likely to interview him who might call him Keith by accident? Surely we can team up with a right winger on this occasion?

"Calm down Keir, it's only a misnomer."

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2483 on: November 22, 2020, 08:20:23 AM »
Yeah, cheers. We're not actually all cunts in the purple zone you know.

Kenny Loggins begs to differ.

Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2484 on: November 22, 2020, 09:01:46 AM »
I mean, pity we all[1] can't get phone calls like this


And of course, from Novara (apologies if repost)

from here
https://novaramedia.com/2020/11/19/no-other-minority-keir-starmers-silence-on-the-islamophobia-report-speaks-volumes-about-labours-hierarchy-of-racism/
 1. Those who are still paying members, and live in the UK, sure, *waves from Australia*


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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2486 on: November 22, 2020, 10:40:33 AM »
Fucksake. Why is all this shit now emerging? When are they going to investigate their own ranks?

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2487 on: November 22, 2020, 10:57:46 AM »
new ehrc appointee seems nice

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/nov/22/new-equalities-commissioner-attacked-modern-feminism-and-metoo

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In a talk in 2018, Butcher said: “Feminism, like other forms of identity politics, has become obsessed with female victimhood. Whereas it once used to be about the portrayal of women as mature, equal partners in society, it now seems more to be about girl power – and yet it disempowers, assumes that we’re weak and defenceless, like children.”

She added: “Working-class girls have been deprived of jobs that they love such as Page 3 girls and [Formula One] grid girls because other women disapprove of them. What happened to ‘my body, my choice’?”

She also criticised the MeToo movement: “Men have had their careers and reputations ruined overnight by MeToo – some possibly justly, but without any due process, no innocence until proven guilty.”

Butcher has also criticised a feminist “narrative of discrimination” for reducing women’s confidence in pursuing careers. She does not deny that gender discrimination exists, but in an interview last year, she suggested that women who think they have been discriminated against should find a way around it rather than complaining.

Aside from this stuff being utter bollocks, there comes a point with trolling where it's too obvious.  We've talked before about the calculated weaponisation of antisemitism.  I'd say, the government, the Establishment, even some in the Labour Party, are working hard to undermine all sense of reason, all trust in authority, all faith in society.

They've seen how easily people like Bannon, Trump and Farage have herded the reactionary right and they're busily creating a tranche of leftist votes to go with it.  People behaving like Bakewell did on hignfy the other night, just making up something untrue and serving it up as some sort of justification for behaving without justice.

If you fill the church with hoors and the judiciary with thieves, who can the people trust?  Something needs to be done soon about this government and about the general trajectory of humanity.

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2488 on: November 22, 2020, 11:01:35 AM »
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She added: “Working-class girls have been deprived of jobs that they love such as Page 3 girls and [Formula One] grid girls because other women disapprove of them. What happened to ‘my body, my choice’?”

Taken as a standalone statement, I don't actually see what's controversial about this.

EDIT: Or this one

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She also criticised the MeToo movement: “Men have had their careers and reputations ruined overnight by MeToo – some possibly justly, but without any due process, no innocence until proven guilty.”

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Re: Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger
« Reply #2489 on: November 22, 2020, 11:02:39 AM »
See above, old darling.

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