Labour Party Desolation v3: Abstainence Makes the Farce Grow Stronger

[LynnBenfield69]

That may be true but if I'd also spent my career opposing racism in all its forms only to be framed as BRITAIN'S NEXT HITLER I'd probably insist of defending myself. So would you.

[Rainbow Moses]

Are you admitting you massively cocked up yet thugler? Just wondering.

lol, as if Long-Bailey would have been anything other than an abysmal failure. With Starmer, you're still ensuring a Tory government for the next 10 years, but at least he has the slither of a chance (or the illusion of hope).

[NoSleep]

A chance of what exactly?

[idunnosomename]

Margaret Hodge on the radio there saying "culture of antisemitism" over and over again and praising Jess Phillips and Wes Streeting in the most endlessly disingenuous way possible to make sure there is never any left wing in the UK ever again and it's just a piece of ham with a haircut straightening his tie.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Corbyn suspended.

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1321799900003225601

For his statement.

[Mr_Simnock]

There is ALWAYS going be a left wing element to UK politics

[Bobloblawslawbomb]

Has anyone quit the Labour Party since Keir took the reins?.

I'm at the end of my tether, honestly. Why should I bother staying on as a member?

Think you probably have your answer now. Fuck them.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

This is part of what I said last month. The right of the party don't just want to take over control and keep the left to the fringes like Blair did. This time they want to bury the left. The project includes never allowing a socialist to ever lead Labour again.

In the next few years the PLP and Labour HQ will be overhauled.

They probably figure these actions will alienate a vast swathe of the membership which they will be entirely happy with doing as they want Labour to be backed by millionaires and gatekeeped by rich centrists in the PLP. A higher membership means these PLP creeps would gradually start to be accountable for their actions.

This is all about removing the desire of the left to use Labour as a vehicle to achieve its aims. If any of you had any lingering doubts about the intentions of this snake, they should be resolved now.

I was hopeful the NEC elections would be a good time to kick back. I am afraid our only chance now is a dismal election defeat with Starmer in charge of it.

[idunnosomename]

There is ALWAYS going be a left wing element to UK politics

not in labour though. they've just suspended the figure of a huge resurgence of youth membership of the party. it can fuck off as far as im concerned. its just a load of self-interested cunts like the US Dems now

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There is ALWAYS going be a left wing element to UK politics

In a homeopathic remedy kind of way

[bgmnts]

I think this is the official end of any legitimate left wing politics in the UK.

Anyone who is even slightly left of starving schoolchildren during half term and punting brown people into the channel are going to be labelled as extremist agitators, probably to the point of criminalising collective bargaining and socialist gatherings/peaceful protests.

Violence is sadly the only way forward to a better future. Bummer.

[ishantbekeepingit]

Twat.

[Rainbow Moses]

A chance of what exactly?

You know exactly of what, but you're pretending to be obtuse.

In reality, Starmer has got very little chance of winning an election because you shouldn't underestimate the number of people who are willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt and say "they're just trying their best in unprecedented circumstances", especially when they believe the alternative is Britain-hating, SJW communism. But that's still better than the nothing Labour would have under RLB.

[JohnnyCouncil]

Stove all politicians heads in. I hate that this is where my mind ends up now in any political debate/trail of thought, but it always does, not fair necessarily or rational but it's where I am. Won't be voting again.

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In reality, Starmer has got very little chance of winning an election because you shouldn't underestimate the number of people who are willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt and say "they're just trying their best in unprecedented circumstances", especially when they believe the alternative is Britain-hating, SJW communism. But in my view that's still better than the "nothing" that I am guessing Labour would have under RLB.

fixed for you


In truth a puffy neoliberal funded by corporate backers isn't a brilliant contrast to the Tories in any context.  Not sure why we should all be overjoyed about what Labour could now grow into.

[pcsjwgm]

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1321799900003225601

For his statement.

Bloody hell.

[Sebastian Cobb]

So the EHRC recommends decisions should not be political or made by the leader and the leader's response to this is to make a politically motivated sacking?

[Rainbow Moses]

fixed for you

Well, sure, but clearly the thread for reserved, mature debate is elsewhere. Or is making an absolute statement only acceptable when a true-red socialist does it?

[jobotic]

So now the party exists solely for the purpose of legitimising the actions of the fascists in charge of us where do we go?

They've destroyed everything.

[bgmnts]

Has to be Greens next elections, people.

[jobotic]

Well, sure, but clearly the thread for reserved, mature debate is elsewhere. Or is making an absolute statement only acceptable when a true-red socialist does it?

You're like a breath of fresh here mate, and not at all a stale old fart that's been breathed in and out hundreds of times before.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

The only way back for the left now is for Starmer to decline to a Miliband style defeat or for the economic situation to spiral so rapidly out of control that the Tories themselves are forced to adopt socialist policies in order to prevent riots. And Starmer will be there at the vanguard saying 'there is absolutely no excuse for disorder of any kind'

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

[Endicott]

A detail that seems to have been missed is that interference by LOTO was made in order to get McNicol's NEC to actually do anything. The stalling bunch of cunts.

He's still got that massive crowd funded legal fund hasn't he? Take the cunts to court.

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Greens won't win though, that's why we're continually forced to rely on the useless Labour Party throwing us a bone (or the brief attempt to try and force Labour to turn vaguely leftwards, to which we've seen the response).

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Or is making an absolute statement only acceptable when a true-red socialist does it?

No idea what you are referring to, sorry.  I'm a bit behind current memes and stuff.

[NoSleep]

You know exactly of what, but you're pretending to be obtuse.

In reality, Starmer has got very little chance of winning an election because you shouldn't underestimate the number of people who are willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt and say "they're just trying their best in unprecedented circumstances", especially when they believe the alternative is Britain-hating, SJW communism. But that's still better than the nothing Labour would have under RLB.

Labour has nothing right now. RLB would not have destroyed the party like is predictably happening now.

[Rainbow Moses]

In truth a puffy neoliberal funded by corporate backers isn't a brilliant contrast to the Tories in any context.  Not sure why we should all be overjoyed about what Labour could now grow into.

The problem is endemic to the left. You're staring down the barrel of a gun and you all want to do is split hairs until someone actually shoots you in the face.

You're like a breath of fresh here mate, and not at all a stale old fart that's been breathed in and out hundreds of times before.

Sorry, aren't you the one that people always confuse with another poster?

[Sebastian Cobb]

That's the second innocent person with a bike Starmer's attacked this week.

[Famous Mortimer]

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

No, because it was very obvious this was going to happen. For those people who spent the last year hysterically telling everyone they had to stay in "the party", then perhaps.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

No, because it was very obvious this was going to happen. For those people who spent the last year hysterically telling everyone they had to stay in "the party", then perhaps.

That was directed at the few Keith apologists remaining