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Anyone ever smoked some crack?

Started by itsfredtitmus, October 28, 2020, 01:29:19 AM

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bushwick

smoking powder charlie in spliffs is a waste IMO, does fuck all. Smoking speed in joints is really horrible, used to do that a lot when all I had was speed. Smoking Es in spliffs sort of works, chasing them off foil is more effective but both a bit of a waste really.

We used to squeeze temaze eggs into joints and dry em out a bit then smoke them, I remember that working. But one of the best things to smoke in my experience was Diazepams, surprisingly -  crush them up and the powder burned quite well in a pipe or joint. Definitely got you spannered too, quite pokey. probably bad for your lungs but whevs

Never really been a coke guy, always prefer E's. 

I once did some crack after a particularly heavy night out, but didn't really feel any effect which i'm quite pleased about.  To those that have done crack, is it a similar kind of buzz as doing balloons?  I love that instant high where time itself seems to slow down when doing those. 

Petey Pate

Quote from: NoSleep on October 29, 2020, 11:10:36 AMA certain highly funky go go band toured the UK in the 80's and were smoking cocaine by sprinkling out the tobacco from cigs, mixing the cocaine with it and stuffing it back into the cigs, then putting them back in the packet. Apparently there was no discernable smell (unlike the distinct smell of crack smoking) so others just thought they were smoking cigarettes.

That certainly adds a new angle to both this footage and the song.

https://youtu.be/-pWwieTsHR4

JaDanketies

#93
Just like to say that there is no safe amount of cocaine to take, it is always bad for you. It is especially bad for you when you are drunk. It makes you more likely to OD on downers when the coke wears off. It is cardiotoxic - i.e. it damages your heart. Take it regularly and you may die young.

Also buying it is supporting one of the most destructive trades on Earth, environmentally and morally. You might blame prohibition for the evils of the cocaine trade, but you play the hand you're dealt, and when you buy a bag of coke, a chunk of your money goes towards some right evil shitheads.

Also, as Mrs Wogans lemon drizzle points out, it's not even that fuckin good, especially in terms of a highness to price ratio. £40 worth of coke will get you high and chatty for an evening. £40 worth of MDMA or LSD or something will get you high off your balls for many evenings.

The biggest reason why I don't (usually) take it though is because of how ruinous it is to my immediate friends. I don't want to normalise it any more than it already is normalised. Frankly, I don't support my friends taking it, so I don't want to participate in it. If my friends were a Kardashian then the other points would still be valid, but my friends are like a fired Aldi cashier who borrows the same £20 off me every month and some guy who has been on universal credit for a year because of his mental health problems. Both of whom are parents.

I'd say coke is the worst commonly-used-by-non-addicts drug by a country mile. Perhaps if we had real drugs education then people would give it a wider berth.

moondogs

Coke in a joint seems to miss the point. The spliff makes you mellow and the coke fights against that. Coke rollies, on the other hand.... sheesh. I remember having to lie down and hold onto the bed because I was rushing so much.

I had one toot of crack once but I think it was just the ash at the end. After all, crackies probably don't want to share their very expensive, very addictive drug with you. This crescendo of pleasure came over me, a very noticeable rush began and then stopped. Lasted less than 10 seconds. Probably for the best, as I used to be rather fond of the powdered variety.

itsfredtitmus

still have pains from weeks ago from mixing coke and alcohol

monkfromhavana

Quote from: moondogs on October 29, 2020, 04:34:45 PM
Coke in a joint seems to miss the point.


It seems a bit like buying an 8-pack of beer and instead of drinking them, siphoning them into your rectum.

NoSleep

Quote from: monkfromhavana on October 29, 2020, 04:37:04 PM
It seems a bit like buying an 8-pack of beer and instead of drinking them, siphoning them into your rectum.

From what I understand that would maximise their effect.

Quote from: Paul Calf on October 28, 2020, 10:04:24 AM
They really are. Withdrawing from opiates is five days of agony, a body screaming with cortisol and adrenaline floods, at least three sleepless nights and weeks and weeks of post-acute symptoms. And THEN you start dealing with the long-term cravings. And even that's a picnic compared to Benzo withdrawal.

Give me a habituation any day.

I was addicted to crack and heroin for several years. Although heroin withdrawal was traumatic, I never once had a craving for it once I was off it. But even reading this thread 20 years on is making me a bit twitchy for the crack buzz.

Marner and Me

As someone who has never smoked, I do feel like I have missed out on drugs, from what I have read and gathered though, weed is shite, coke isn't much better and MDMA and LSD are quite good fun. Worth bothering with or not?

kngen

Quote from: Marner and Me on October 30, 2020, 05:12:06 PM
As someone who has never smoked, I do feel like I have missed out on drugs, from what I have read and gathered though, weed is shite, coke isn't much better and MDMA and LSD are quite good fun. Worth bothering with or not?

If I could subtly edit my life choices, I'd go back and remove about 90% of the LSD experiences I had in my teens and early 20s. There were some good bits, but the sheer volume of it within quite a short amount of time seems to have exacerbated my tendency towards panic attacks and general anxiousness in the subsequent decades.

I tried microdosing mushrooms recently (for aforementioned anxiety etc), and the 'wooooaaaargh'-ness of the nameless dread that LSD seemed to bring to the fore popped right back up in my head again as if the last 25 or so years had never happened. That was quite bracing.

imitationleather

Quote from: kngen on October 30, 2020, 06:17:07 PM
If I could subtly edit my life choices, I'd go back and remove about 90% of the LSD experiences I had in my teens and early 20s. There were some good bits, but the sheer volume of it within quite a short amount of time seems to have exacerbated my tendency towards panic attacks and general anxiousness in the subsequent decades.

Same. I think I was always quite an anxious boy, but acid and shrooms messed me up badly and it took quite a few years to get over it. From my experience the acid casualty away with the fairies stereotype seems quite rare in the real world. What seems to be far more common is becoming a panicky mess who needs to self-medicate all the time to keep calm.

Zetetic

Worth bearing in mind that the baseline risk of becoming a panicky mess who needs to self-medicate all the time to keep claim is fairly high.

bushwick

^^^^ Aye, same for that on the acid lads. Took far too many trips between 16 and 18, hundreds, a fair few bad ones, lots of times just taking half and sitting round watching telly getting paranoid. Was always inclined to be insular/reflective/depressive etc, and acid exacerbated that and made me think I'd "broken" myself permanently for a while. People have encouraged me to do DMT in recent years but no fuckin way, not at 46 after being on citalopram for 20 yrs...

On reflection, I think the worst drug thing for my head was speed, my comedowns were horrific (and I needed it to socialise and feel confident normally at the time). Fucking horrible but everyone did it back then, everyone sold it too. Popularity of coke during the 90s seemed to kill it off a bit. Dunno if kids these days bother with it.

JaDanketies

#104
If you're over 25, go nuts on the acid and shrooms. You probably don't have the free time to damage yourself. MDMA no more than once every three months and definitely no more than once a month. LSD / shrooms / 2cb all have a cross tolerance so if you take one then none of the three work as well for a fortnight, so probably avoid doing them more often than once a fortnight. If you are fortunate enough to be able to trip so regularly. I'd think in the peak of my acid days it was once every three weeks or once a month.

Also when you're over 25 your brain is done developing in a biological maturity sense and if you managed to avoid mental health problems for that long you're probably in the clear. (I am not a doctor).

What I regret is becoming a habitual daily weed smoker from like age 16. But I'm in a good place now so whatevs. Who knows what is happening in a parallel universe where I practiced moderation. Maybe Bernie won.

The sketchiest drug I've done that has caused the most harm to my friends and loved ones is either benzos or GBL / GHB. Benzo dangers are well documented but you think you're safe with G if you're a little educated and cautious. Unfortunately this doesn't mean everyone who knows where you keep it and is cheeky enough to pinch some is educated and cautious. I meticulously measured their doses and they clearly still thought measuring drugs is for squares and true party animals always eyeball.

I've been a part of three overdoses, one which involved me drinking someone else's drink containing my stolen G and another where I had to call the ambulance and they got a tube down their throat and their distraught family at their bedside. Gotta say though G is the fucking bomb and is the best sex drug I've tried by a long shot. I don't own it any more. G is only as safe as the least-safe person that can access it.

PlanktonSideburns

Quote from: Marner and Me on October 30, 2020, 05:12:06 PM
As someone who has never smoked, I do feel like I have missed out on drugs, from what I have read and gathered though, weed is shite, coke isn't much better and MDMA and LSD are quite good fun. Worth bothering with or not?

Perfect assessment. Do nitrous oxide also

JaDanketies

Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on October 30, 2020, 08:31:57 PM
Perfect assessment. Do nitrous oxide also

while under the influence of MDMA or LSD or both

ket is a good addition to MDMA and / or LSD although it's an acquired taste by itself

Haven't smoked crack, but I am a certified chocoholic. *blushes*

GMTV

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on October 28, 2020, 08:52:36 AM
A crack

A crack

Not 'some crack'

Seen this thread and first thought was I'm posting there's someone over there smoking a crack

Sonny_Jim

Ketamine is definitely a required taste.  It's great for going from sober to completely spangled in under 5 minutes.  Never understood why people take it as a 'dance in front of some speakers' party drug though.  It's always worked best for me at house party.

Also, it's really fucking annoying that Coke managed to wind up as the 'classy' drug, when in reality it's one of the shittest.


RenegadeScrew

Quote from: JaDanketies on October 29, 2020, 04:26:03 PM
Also buying it is supporting one of the most destructive trades on Earth, environmentally and morally. You might blame prohibition for the evils of the cocaine trade, but you play the hand you're dealt, and when you buy a bag of coke, a chunk of your money goes towards some right evil shitheads.

I've never taken it, and you make other good points, but if you are holding out for those who are damaging their heart/nose/body (to die young) to look out for the impoverished in Columbia destroying the rainforest, then fuck me you'll be holding out a while.

It is not only cocaine users, but society that plays the hand it's dealt.  You can either change prohibition, or hope that cokeheads get moral.

The people who sit back and watch their kids die taking unregulated illegal drugs (that are effectively no more dangerous than prescription drugs) should think about the hand they are being playing, and whether they are actually playing with fire.


Sherringford Hovis


Jockice

As someone whose entire illegal drug experiences consist of taking coke twice (once when I was 19, once when I was 29. I thought it was crap both times), E twice (within a few weeks when I was 26. The first was pretty mediocre, the second great) and smoking dope intermittently from the age of 17 if someone else had some (don't like the smell or the taste but quite like the effect. It's about five years since I last had any) I'd just like to say you're a bunch of junkies. Oh yeah, and I had poppers about four times in my late teens/early 20s. They're not illegal are they though?

By far the worst drug experience was aged probably about 20. Do-Dos chest tablets combined with coke (the drink) worked as a sort of speed (apparently, I've never had speed) so why I decided to take some when I got home after a night out remains a mystery. What followed was a totally sleepless night, combined with a rather unfortunate side-effect. It shrinks your willie! And from what wasn't an impressive starting point it went down to practically invisible. I couldn't even have a wank so stayed wide awake all night convinced it was going to stay the same size forever. Never again!

Dex Sawash


JaDanketies

Quote from: Dex Sawash on November 11, 2020, 11:56:53 AM
What are poppers?

Amyl nitrates. They're a popular sex drug. They're an inhalant that comes in a tiny little bottle about the size of a shot glass. You put it under your nose and breathe in through your nostrils and it gives you a giddy head rush, a bit like smoking your first ever cigarette. They also make the blood rush to your anus and your vagina and your skin and thus improves the sensations you feel during sex. I used to sneak them into gigs and sniff them during good bits of the songs, too.

They were gonna make them illegal when they made all psychoactive drugs illegal but then there was kind of a fudge where they said poppers aren't a psychoactive drug because the psychoactive effect is secondary to the cardio effect, but really it's because making them illegal would be seen as anti-gay. Gay men love poppers especially, apparently. I think they might make your bumhole looser.

Jockice

Quote from: JaDanketies on November 11, 2020, 11:59:45 AM
Amyl nitrates. They're a popular sex drug.

Sadly when I took them I wasn't popular enough to have sex.

JaDanketies

Quote from: Jockice on November 11, 2020, 12:22:43 PM
Sadly when I took them I wasn't popular enough to have sex.

useless sex drug for me to take regardless, anyway. Erection gone in the wind, gotta start from 0mph.

FredNurke

Quote from: Jockice on November 11, 2020, 07:32:28 AM
As someone whose entire illegal drug experiences consist of taking coke twice (once when I was 19, once when I was 29. I thought it was crap both times), E twice (within a few weeks when I was 26. The first was pretty mediocre, the second great) and smoking dope intermittently from the age of 17 if someone else had some (don't like the smell or the taste but quite like the effect. It's about five years since I last had any) I'd just like to say you're a bunch of junkies.

On the other hand, compared to me, you're Keith Richards.

Jockice

Quote from: JaDanketies on November 11, 2020, 12:26:08 PM
useless sex drug for me to take regardless, anyway. Erection gone in the wind, gotta start from 0mph.

Try taking some Do-Dos and a fizzy drink beforehand. Works wonders for me.