US Elections 2020 IV: The Two Gentlemen of Corona

[DrGreggles]

[Sonny_Jim]

Although it was nice to see /r/TheDonald get slowly dismantled by Reddit, I started going to /r/conservative for my glimpse into the minds of madness.  /R/Conservative seems fairly restrained about it, plenty of upvoted comments along the lines of 'Guys, we need to start seriously thinking whether Trump is good for the future of our party'.  To be fair, comments like that always have allegations of the poster being a pinko commie antifa agent provocateur.  For the real juicy shit, you got to go to places like NewsMax now.

It's digusting.  They refer to Kamala Harris as 'Heels Up Harris', everyone who doesn't agree that Trump won is labelled a traitor.  But then you get stuff like this:

U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann refused to even consider the evidence. What judge makes a ruling after refusing to see the evidence?

This is in reference to this case, where a solidly Republican Judge dismissed the 'We need to invalidate every vote in Pennsylvania' case that was brought before him.  To answer this anonymous Newsmax commenters question, here's why the Judge threw it out 'without seeing any evidence', although it's going to be a fairly long winded reply:

The case revolves around 2 people who didn't get notified that their mail-in ballot wasn't counted.  1 was not counted because they hadn't sealed it in the envelope properly, the other they couldn't find out why it wasn't counted.  That's it.  2 Votes.  They are trying to get an entire state vote thrown out because of 2 votes.  Quite understandably the Judge is doing the whole 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof' thing, which didn't work out so well for them.  If you read the linked document he outlines very clearly why he's 'not seeing the evidence'.  For one, they've not produced anything credible and when they do, it's in no bodies favour. 

As an example the Judge examines their 'ballot watchers weren't allowed in XYZ location' claims and points out there wasn't any Democratic ballot watchers in the super secret room either.  So for them to prove it was unfair, they have to show preferential treatment to one side.  By the own documents they've submitted, they've failed to show that there was a bias towards the Democratics, just that 'people weren't allowed to see'.

Here's the kicker though, he doesn't have to see the evidence because before everything else, they have to prove that this is the right court for the case to be tried.  Disenfranchising 6 million voters isn't something that particular Judge can do.

TL;DR I've read one of the case judgments and even a Republican judge couldn't make them look less like a shower of assholes.

[Paul Calf]

[MojoJojo]

Rudy Giuliani says Sidney Powell the other loony lawyer is not part of the Trump Legal Team. Just a rogue MAGA starting lawsuits, apparently.

Looks like the Trumpers have found a woman to blame. I think there's a reasonable chance that a narrative will develop that Sidney Powell lost Trump the election.

It's not quite clear why she's been booted. The most rational explanations are that she was getting too much of the donations, or that Trump realised her claims without evidence would make him look bad. More likely explanations are Trump believed she had evidence and threw a tantrum when he realised she didn't, or Giuliani didn't like sharing the spotlight.

[Urinal Cake]

The other theory is that she crossed the line when she started accussing Republican Governor Kemp of taking bribes etc to stop Donald. That would be too reasonable.

[pigamus]

The other theory is that she crossed the line when she started accussing Republican Governor Kemp of taking bribes etc to stop Donald. That would be too reasonable.

Ah, so she's laying them open to being sued to fuck come January. That sounds about right.

[MojoJojo]

The other theory is that she crossed the line when she started accussing Republican Governor Kemp of taking bribes etc to stop Donald. That would be too reasonable.

Yeah I saw that on r/conservative - which gives me a bit more hope than redstate.com, as some of the Trump supporters there at least acknowledge there is no evidence Biden stole the election.

[Mr_Simnock]

 I am so looking forward to Jan 21st, the republican fallout proper can be begin. Bring out your popcorn I think it's going to be fantastic, the squabbling will be immense, something to lift the cold short winter days.

[kngen]

Yeah I saw that on r/conservative - which gives me a bit more hope than redstate.com, as some of the Trump supporters there at least acknowledge there is no evidence Biden stole the election.

Thedonald.win is still fully behind her 'releasing the Kraken', that this is all a masterstroke by Trump, and that biblical wrath will be unleashed on Georgia today ... or tomorrow. Maybe Weds at the latest. Probably by the end of the week.

The desperation on that site is quite something to behold. As the Trump team's cases get thrown out and the whole strategy is weakened with every new development, the more they shout in ALL CAPS!!! that they are WINNING!!!

The thread about conservative lawyer Jay Sekulow is a case in point.

'OHH! THE BIG GUNS ARE GETTING ROLLED OUT! JAY SEKULOW IS ON TEAM TRUMP!'

Actually, I think it's his son - Jordan Sekulow.

'YEAH WELL. THE APPLE DOESN"T FAR FROM THE TREE! AND DAD WILL BE HELPING OUT TOO, I'M SURE'

Hmm ... it seems like he's been careful to distance himself from Trump's legal team.

'SHUT UP, CUCKFAG! SO MUCH WINNING!'

[daf]

So much whining!

[MojoJojo]

Thedonald.win is like the pizzagate thing where you know some people are just doing it for shits and giggles but you're not sure how many are taking it completely seriously. They're talking about how Trump can get a thrid and fourth term and how liberals are completely detached from reality.

[Dog Botherer]

Thedonald.win is like the pizzagate thing where you know some people are just doing it for shits and giggles but you're not sure how many are taking it completely seriously. They're talking about how Trump can get a thrid and fourth term and how liberals are completely detached from reality.

from what i've seen from my in-laws social media, probably a lot more of it is sincere than you think.

[rjd2]

So many of these fuckers are going back to brunch when Biden becomes president.

Unsurprising Ruppar who I think is awful will be one of those.

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1330702473921589256

[ajsmith2]

This Garrison is two days old and already a bit out of date, definitely worth posting though,



RUDY REVERE AND SIDNEY POWELL- JUSTICE IS COMING

I had a gut feeling the Democrats cheated and stole the election for Biden. I realized something foul was afoot when the vote counting in key states was delayed for many hours.

Why? Because Trump garnered far more votes that expected and the Democrat operatives in charge scrambled to create more last minute votes for Biden. Ballots on palettes. When the CNN shill announced that China Biden the pedophile suddenly overcame a large vote deficit in several states and magically obtained a comfortable lead, I knew cheating had occurred and I went to bed disgusted and with a sense of foreboding.

Turns out my gut instinct was correct. The Democrat Socialists stole it outright from Trump. But where is the proof? Trump's legal team held a news conference yesterday to make the case. Voting machines with changed algorithms, Biden ballots counted and multiplied several times, Trump votes discarded, and Republican witnesses banned. Dead people voting for Biden. The corruption and fraud went on and on, but the Democratic mainstream legacy media would have none of it. No proof was offered, they said—only 'conspiracy theories.' Even Tucker Carlson chimed in to say Sidney Powell offered no proof.

Thanks, Tucker—you only confirm my suspicion that FoxNews really has turned left. I even heard Sean Hannity say on the radio that even if Biden is confirmed as president, America will still be a great country. Uh, no, Sean. America will be further set on the road to ruin by socialist tyrannical forces.

All of this said, if the news conference was meant to spread the good news that justice is coming, it didn't quite succeed. It didn't help that Giuliani appeared nervous and sweaty throughout his appearance. Hair dye streamed down the side of his face and distracted from what he had to say. Powerful men tend to be vain. I get that.

If they do indeed have the proof and sworn affidavits that they claim they have, then let's get the show on the road. Enough reassurances that things will be fine. The same reassurances were made about the swamp getting drained and that hasn't happened. Barr and Durham have not locked up traitorous criminals who carried out a blatant coup against a lawfully-elected president. Will we now see foot dragging when it comes to an unlawfully elected president?

Sounding the alarm is fine. Shining light on what's going on is great, but an old lantern may not cut it. Enough cheerleading and proffers of hope. Cut to the chase. Get 'er done. Let's get Trump the second term he has earned and deserves.

—Ben Garrison

[Cuellar]

The T of Trump just looks like beams of light from the lantern, making it appear as 'RUMP WON'

[Cuellar]

But he's got Sweaty Rudy, which is nice.

[pigamus]

from what i've seen from my in-laws social media, probably a lot more of it is sincere than you think.

Yeah, saying that they can't possibly believe this shit is part of the problem I think. We've got to get out of the denial phase.

[Sin Agog]

We're just not reaching any of them on either side of the pond.  What we really need is a social democrat paedo hunter.

[magval]

Are you allowed to call someone 'China Biden the Pedophile' without fear of legal prosecution in America?

[Pearly-Dewdrops Drops]

Are you allowed to call someone 'China Biden the Pedophile' without fear of legal prosecution in America?

It's an incentives issue. The President of the United States would look far worse from suing a pathetic internet cartoonist than it would benefit him from getting Ben Garrison's $20,000 net worth.

[robhug]

Are you allowed to call someone 'China Biden the Pedophile' without fear of legal prosecution in America?

Apparently the onus is on the accused to prove they aren't to win a libel case.

IE Elon Musk calling cave dwellers paedos

[MojoJojo]

Yeah, saying that they can't possibly believe this shit is part of the problem I think. We've got to get out of the denial phase.

To be clear, I only think some of the posts on thedonald are having a wind up. I think the commenters on redstate and r/Conservative are sincern

[Alberon]

That Garrison cartoon has another meaning he probably didn't mean.

What he's referring to is, of course, Paul Revere and "The British are coming." So it ends up looking like Rudy is warning Trump's side that justice is coming for him.

[idunnosomename]

yeah the british = justice. they get defeated. bit odd that

god ben's new one on the gates virus now. fuck me. anyway enjoy this

[jobotic]

I was so angry about a China paedo stealing democracy that I went to bed.

[kalowski]

Who came first, Garrison or The Onion's Kelly?

[idunnosomename]

Kelly. He's been in the Onion since 2006. It's a pseudonym (or character really) for this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Sutton


Ben didn't get started in cartooning till like 2008 (he got a fine arts degree in the 70s) with his actually fairly based cartoons about the establishment getting shopped on 4chan to have the A. Wyatt Man Jewish caricatures replacing the eye of providence in 2010 catapulting him into the mainstream. After that he just went more nuts for skirting the line on controversy and eventually went full fucker for Trump.

he actually does canvas work
https://www.facebook.com/WesternCubism/

this really is him.

[Urinal Cake]

Isn't Cubism decadent post-modern, liberal and left-wing art? But I guess having cowboys as the subject matter cancels all that out.

[idunnosomename]

yeah it is odd. but it means he doesn't have to do anatomy or anything.

it's almost like he's entirely disingenuous!!!!!!!!!!

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

Surely this 'X is totally our guy, until X is past their usefulness to us, then we never heard the name X' is doing more damage in the long run?  Are Trump supporters really that blinkered to not see what's going on here?

Trump supporters have the mentality of stupid teenagers. "YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT I WANTED, YOU'RE NOT MY FRIEND! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD BETRAY ME LIKE THAT!"