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Cutting out meat
« on: November 16, 2020, 01:53:16 PM »
Never really considered cutting out meat before but something about this has got me thinking.
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/16/shocking-footage-of-severely-injured-pigs-on-spanish-farms-released?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Probably won't in the end with the Xmas meat feast upon us. 
Has anyone else recently cut out meat in their diet?  Did you feel better physically and mentally?

Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2020, 02:26:20 PM »
I was only saying this morning that I would like to cut meat out of my diet again. A couple of years ago I did this semi-accidentally and felt a lot better in myself physically. Because of that I felt better mentally. I did still eat small amounts of meat that I knew the provenance of but had to force myself to do so. It would have been very easy to give it up totally.

I find that prescribing behaviour to myself is usually setting me up to fail though. Excluding meat was more an organic process and very easy as before ordering things I would have images of animals being killed to produce the largely shit meal in the works canteen or wherever (that's my post for the Invasive Thoughts thread in a nutshell).

Knowing about animal welfare things like the article you've posted (I haven't read it, just going on the keywords in the link) make this sort of thing quite easy (for me) to do. Thank you for reminding me.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2020, 02:37:24 PM »
Yes.  Obviously I did it years and years ago.  Can't even imagine, properly, what meat is like any more.  Never miss it. 

Never think of it except when at work - I work in a restaurant kitchen.  I have to wash everything, every thing, every day when I get home because the smell, to me, of raw, cooking or cooked meat, is disgusting.   

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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2020, 02:43:54 PM »
Not only lives in a well but also doesn't eat meat. I bet the French must love you.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2020, 02:50:35 PM »
Heheh.  Actually they even stock some stuff in the supermarket in town now that's labeled as veggie.  But I was once presented with a tureen of boiled chicken, including the face, as a vegetarian option, so it's swings and roundabouts. 

Anyway, I applaud anyone who's reducing their meat intake, for the environment, animal welfare and personal physical and mental wellbeing, a very positive step.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2020, 03:01:23 PM »
I stopped eating meat in February last year. I didn't realise at first - my partner is vegetarian, and we went a few weeks without meat in the house. Once I realised I'd inadvertently forgone the carnivorous diet for a while, I decided to stick to it.

I love animals, but I always knew I was betraying them by scoffing their mutilated brethren. Now I can look a cow square in the face and say, sorry I ate your mum; I will not eat you.

I am bad at eating, so I'm still phasing out the odd bite of fish every few weeks.[1] Just getting into shit like tofu.
 1. sorry fish I love you too

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2020, 04:06:53 PM »
Shouldn't really eat dairy either, to be that cunt. Adds just as much to that horrid suffering.

Honest to god, been veggie for 12/13 years and its an absolute piece of piss. There are SO many alternatives in terms of nutrients and taste its ridonculous.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2020, 04:10:34 PM »
Shouldn't really eat dairy either, to be that cunt. Adds just as much to that horrid suffering.

Honest to god, been veggie for 12/13 years and its an absolute piece of piss. There are SO many alternatives in terms of nutrients and taste its ridonculous.
I agree on all points. Now there's a bunch of nice non-dairy milks out there (I like a bit of hemp milk, although its extreme whiteness is a bit weird) all I need is for cheese substitutes to get cheaper / nicer, and I'll go fully vegan and never look back. I'd definitely recommend CaBbers go for some nice faux-milk, at the very least.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2020, 04:12:23 PM »
Been veggie forever, vegan for half of forever, but I do know some people, including my parents, who reported having a small withdrawal period after going cold turkey (by not eating said turkey).  Might want to bear that in mind if you're not feeling it in the first few weeks.

Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2020, 04:13:41 PM »
Honest to god, been veggie for 12/13 years

Are you? I don't think you've ever mentioned it before.

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2020, 04:16:05 PM »
Thing is, you have to don't you?  It's like not being male, you go somewhere, like the internet and everyone presumes you're a man unless you tell them you're not.  Good people on both sides, I'm sure, just the way of the world.  If you don't tell them, you feel like you're misleading people.  I'm a woman btw.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2020, 04:16:39 PM »
I got quite nostalgic for the smell of bacon or a barbecue for the first year or so of being a veggie, but now it all looks and smells weird.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2020, 04:18:29 PM »
I only eat white meat these days because I fucking hate chickens / diabetes, and had some Sainsbury's quorn sausages recently and I've got to say, I was impressed, and even prefer them to many a meaty type.

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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2020, 04:19:27 PM »
Are you? I don't think you've ever mentioned it before.

I am, honestly.

Thing is, you have to don't?  It's like not being male, you go somewhere, like the internet and everyone presumes you're a man unless you tell them you're not.  Good people on both sides, I'm sure, just the way of the world.  If you don't tell them, you feel like you're misleading people.  I'm a woman btw.

And you live on your own and are happy with it!

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2020, 04:24:29 PM »
I only eat white meat these days because I fucking hate chickens / diabetes, and had some Sainsbury's quorn sausages recently and I've got to say, I was impressed, and even prefer them to many a meaty type.
Morrison's Spicy Bean Burgers were fucking delicious (and probably still are). The one thing I never got on with is faux-bacon, I remember a delightful lady once made me a facon sandwich and...it wasn't for me.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2020, 04:26:49 PM »
And you live on your own and are happy with it!

Happy doesn't even come near old son.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2020, 04:27:16 PM »
If it sticks you might have to change your name to Butchers Broke.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2020, 04:29:13 PM »
Morrison's Spicy Bean Burgers were fucking delicious (and probably still are). The one thing I never got on with is faux-bacon, I remember a delightful lady once made me a facon sandwich and...it wasn't for me.

I've always wanted to try that pretend bacon (you can't get it here) and now buddha has taken even that feather of a desire from my burden. 

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2020, 04:30:48 PM »
You can make some pretty good stuff of your own if you oven cook aubergine slices with maple syrup and some liquid smoke (there are always these fancy pants ingredients in these recipes- could always try some BBQ sauce instead).

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2020, 04:32:22 PM »
An oven?

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2020, 04:36:20 PM »
My partner was vegetarian before she met me and I turned her into a meat eater good and proper.

That said, among our circle of friends, pretty much every one of them is vegan/veggie so when they're round, even for BBQ , I'm always faced with going vegan too.

I bought Deliciously Ella cookbook which is excellent for sharing salads and also merchant gourmets website, while plugging products is pretty good to for ideas. People might have better ideas but they've worked for me so far.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2020, 04:39:31 PM »
An oven?

You're in the south of France; you could always cook them by the heat emitted from the mental gymnastics performed by liver-spotted Brits as they justify why they voted Leave.

Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2020, 04:45:45 PM »
3 years vegan; but I changed at a time when alternatives were increasingly easy to find in supermarkets and the ranges were expanding.

Also I'm not *massively* into food so it didn't bother me all that much to change. 

If you're *really* into roasts or a proper cheese enthusiast, I can understand; but if you're just wanting to substitute yer white meat that's the easiest transition. 

Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2020, 04:47:10 PM »
Morrison's Spicy Bean Burgers were fucking delicious (and probably still are). The one thing I never got on with is faux-bacon, I remember a delightful lady once made me a facon sandwich and...it wasn't for me.

The rashers are never great, and the facon flavour kind of sticks round for too long.  Vivera make pretty good bacon-style pieces though, staple in our house.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2020, 05:17:23 PM »
You're in the south of France; you could always cook them by the heat emitted from the mental gymnastics performed by liver-spotted Brits as they justify why they voted Leave.

Heheh, I only know of a few like that and they're all confined to barracks, lockdown, innit. 

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2020, 06:11:56 PM »
Hitler was a vegetarian... think on that.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2020, 06:13:35 PM »
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Has anyone else recently cut out meat in their diet?  Did you feel better physically and mentally?

As my partner is vegan I've certainly started eating more healthily over the last few years and reducing meat consumption at home year by year.

Other than ham/chorizo and fish a lot has been forsaken/replaced with other stuff. Some vegan replacements are AIDS. Others are perfectly fine.

Lockdown has been really useful to in order to widen my vegan cooking repertoire too. There are some easy go to dishes I enjoy without even thinking of introducing meat or dairy to them.

I'm one for gradual changes rather than fads, can't see ever not eating meat but who knows the future eh lads days to come

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2020, 06:37:54 PM »
Hitler was a vegetarian... think on that.

Very interesting that the same people who think being vegetarian is so great wouldn't hesitate to kill baby Hitler. Very interesting.

Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2020, 06:50:14 PM »
On the other hand, Pol Pot loved a lamb chopper, so it all balances out.

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Re: Cutting out meat
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2020, 08:24:35 PM »
I've got really into Alpro milks in the last year or so. I have several in the fridge at the moment, plain for my coffee, different varieties for breakfast cereals etc. I had almond flavour with my porridge this morning. It was nice. Someone made me a cup of coffee a few weeks ago with milk in it and it tasted weird, so  I think I've weaned myself off it.

I'm not totally vegan as I still eat cheese and yogurt (although I have vegan versions too. I had some vegan cheese with my Ritz crackers this afternoon. The cat was disgusted when I offered her a bit.) Ideally I'd like to go vegan and not tell anyone. I'm like that.

As for meat itself, I was put in a situation earlier a few weeks ago when someone made me a breakfast fry-up with meat not realising I rarely eat it anymore. I thought she knew but we haven't seen each other much in the last few years and she'd obviously forgotten. (it's my sister. You can read about our fall-out elsewhere. Ironically she was veggie for years and years when I wasn't). She was embarrassed and apologetic when I told her and - working on the principle that the animals involved weren't going to get any less dead - I did sort of pick at it, although the dogs had most of it. No great desire to have anymore of it though. I have eaten fish a couple of times this year too, but I really like the Quorn vegan variety so that's my preference. Pretty hard to get from takeaways though.

And finally, my ultimate bugbear, that there are still eating places where the only veggie option is some spicy shit. In this day and age. Unbelievable. Grrrr.


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