Labour Party - Just about as bad as you can get

[Sebastian Cobb]

Looks like the party machinery is exerting pressure on a guardian journalist to try and get them to drop investigations into this Kaplan stuff.

https://twitter.com/AsaWinstanley/status/1351805264975028225

[idunnosomename]

kieth's not hellbent on anything, other than just doing what he's told. hence why he was pretty good in corbyn's cabinet. a true ham.

[Absorb the anus burn]

DoubleDown News:

Britain Trump & The Assassination Of Jeremy Corbyn.

https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2021/14/january/britain-trump-the-assassination-of-jeremy-corbyn?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

[Johnny Yesno]

DoubleDown News:

Britain Trump & The Assassination Of Jeremy Corbyn.

https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2021/14/january/britain-trump-the-assassination-of-jeremy-corbyn?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

He's a good lad is James Schneider. He's good at explaining things and I wish we got to see more of him.

[Twit 2]

Excellent video.

[Leo2112]

A paper has been approved to vet future parliamentary candidates.  The general secretary has the power to unilaterally disqualify any candidate - https://twitter.com/mish_rahman/status/1352639220834332676

I doubt we will see a socialist being allowed to run as an MP again.

[pancreas]

This is going to generate a raft of discrimination cases.

[Johnny Yesno]

A paper has been approved to vet future parliamentary candidates.  The general secretary has the power to unilaterally disqualify any candidate - https://twitter.com/mish_rahman/status/1352639220834332676

I doubt we will see a socialist being allowed to run as an MP again.

The beginning of that thread is also disturbing. I nearly missed by not scrolling up.

Fuck. I think those people replying that this is a coup might be right.

[Absorb the anus burn]

It's felt like a coup since RLB got sacked, to be honest...

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

The purpose, as I keep saying, is to ensure the left, (anyone left of handwringing and abstaining) are buried so deep they can never resurface to wield influence at the top level. The gatekeeping of the NEC is just one part, and even this is just the beginning. The way to prevent members from pulling Labour to the left is to disenfranchise them, and that's what is happening.

Once it gets to the point where the few votes I get are essentially meaningless as the executive and leadership can ignore or quash things they don't like, there is absolutely no point remaining a member of the party.

[Buelligan]

Are we there yet?

[pancreas]

I am exceedingly close.

I am waiting for Corbyn's legal challenge and the next conference.

[BlodwynPig]

Are we there yet?

Well past that, imho. But let's give others a chance to realise.

[BlodwynPig]

I am exceedingly close.

I am waiting for No. 14212's legal challenge and the next death march.

[greencalx]

Well past that, imho. But let's give others a chance to realise.

Patronising cunt. Try "decide". Cunt.

[BlodwynPig]

Patronising cunt. Try "decide". Cunt.

Oh, hello. Starmtrooper in the house.

[Buelligan]

Could I say something?  I genuinely hope it doesn't make anyone feel worse than they already do.  From my years of being here and reading all of you on Labour, I know that almost all of you are total comrades.  You keep the faith.  You are magnificent.  I'm not even lying. 

If you feel at all the way I do, you'll be feeling extremely fucking frustrated with the way things are going.  We may all react differently, we may all express our disappointment, loss, fear and rage, differently.  But we remain, a band of magnificent comrades, a shelter from the storm.  A reassurance that we are not alone, even when the really shit things happen.  We shouldn't forget that.  And we should never let that be lost.  That's what I think anyway.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Well past that, imho. But let's give others a chance to realise.

I have realised, see above, just politely waiting until they slam the door in my face, rather than flouncing.

[Johnny Yesno]

How does that 'Well, if Kieth turns out bad, we can just get rid of him' argument for not voting for RLB look now?

[Johnny Yesno]

Oh, hello. Starmtrooper in the house.

Shut up, blodders, you dipstick.

[Absorb the anus burn]

https://twitter.com/LabourInExile

"... Labour In Exile Network aims to unite socialists who have been unfairly suspended/resigned etc with the Labour party and movement... "

[peanutbutter]

It's felt like a coup since RLB got sacked, to be honest...

Since David Evans started in his role, the two were were weeks if not days apart.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Since David Evans started in his role, the two were were weeks if not days apart.

It's only been a matter of when not if since that appointment was announced.

Keith knows that the internal decisions won't get much reporting in national media (unlike Corbyn whose decisions demonstrably democratised the party and enfranchised its members so had to be denounced, even though they barely went a smidge far enough) leaving him free reign to reset the dynamics of the party to top down Blairite gatekeeping and cherrypicking of scum candidates. If it was the left doing this to the right all hell would have broken loose, I am not joking, if only Corbyn had the balls to do half the shit Starmer has got away with.

But I am actually hanging on until the point where my vote is, through means of subterfuge and executive abuse, futile, both because it isn't much skin off my nose, and because I want them to shut it in my face, not for me to flounce.

[Buelligan]

If Corbyn had had the balls to do half the things that Starmer has, he would've been exactly what people dressed him up as, an extremist, intolerant, ideologue out to destroy democracy.

Corbyn came to set us free and we killed him for it.  Maybe something in us wants to be punished.  Maybe we like having no voice.

[Buelligan]

Just thought I'd link Novara's take on the Assaf Kaplan/spy hire story here for anyone who hasn't seen it already.  I think they cover the issue pretty well.

And here's a bit from the Canary on the same subject, all the other papers seem not to know anything about it.  Which is unsurprising.

https://www.thecanary.co/exclusive/2021/01/20/if-jeremy-corbyn-hired-an-ex-spy-it-would-be-all-over-the-front-pages/

A, perhaps, telling, excerpt from that article regarding the work of Unit 8200 that Kaplan worked in

that the "all-encompassing" intelligence the unit gathers on Palestinians – much of it concerning innocent people – is used for "political persecution" and to create divisions in Palestinian society.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2021/01/starmerism-and-fabianism.html?m=1

Super recent analysis.

[NoSleep]

Yeah that's a good blog. I was recommended it a short while ago.

[Twit 2]

Someone I knew very well growing up was a Young Fabian. Our parents are still good friends. His dad was a secondary school teacher, fairly modest low-ish income household in a rural area. His sister is a nurse. He went to London to seek money and fame, works for an unethical global finance company, joined the Young Fabians, got himself a few media appearances, BBC, Sky. One of these appearances is now 5 years old but is still pinned to the top of his twitter feed. Anti-Corbyn and pro-Starmer from day one. His dad had a huge ego, and so does he. Very interesting to see how all the positions he took from day one were for his own self-promotion.

[Pink Gregory]

It was Matt Forde and I claim my £5

[Sebastian Cobb]

Looks like Nandy was on Marr bigging up Churchill and statues then spouted some bollocks about 'wokes'.

Opinion divided on whether Marr is a 'trot' or a vehicle for right-wing talking points:
https://twitter.com/search?q=nandy%20marr%20churchill&src=typed_query&f=live