Topic: The Alexei Sayle Podcast

[Ballad of Ballard Berkley]

Was a really great podcast, really enjoyed it.

I missed the Herring dig, though. Where was it?

At the very start, when Lee said that Herring's podcast was the first one he'd ever appeared on. I'm paraphrasing, but the gist of what he said was: "And for ages that's what I thought they were all like - being interviewed by a man who talks about himself all the time and who has done no research into your career."

So it was a friendly, jokey dig really.

[Consignia]

Cheers. I know I listened to the bit that was in, but I really can't recall hearing that.

[Ptolemy Ptarmigan]

Yes, I agree it's just lighthearted ribbing - and he laughed later at Herring's comment about Sayle's best stand-up of 2020 award. Pretty sure they're still pals despite their differences.

Anyway, here's my favourite photo of Alexei Sayle... unless you know different, subtle wink.

[Mobbd]

Ouch. I don't mind Jones, but that comparison is sadly apt and will haunt me.

Fuck me that is so bang on.

I GOT NOTICED BY FEASTY AND IMITATION LEATHER!

Highlight: Owen Jones%u2019 line-toeing about how the Labour Party must have a %u201Ctwo-pronged approach%u201D of staying true to the working class while also building parliamentary pressure, Sayle taking a second to mull that and then deadpanning: %u201CAnd how%u2019s that working out for you?%u201D

Funnily enough, his dismissing of Russell Brand's revolutionary musings (which I mentioned earlier in the thread) involved this exact phrase. Brand was saying that Milliband's Labour Party wasn't worth wasting time on because (a) any party toils under a corrupt and broken political/parliamentary system and (b) there's no point winning on the Red Tory ticket. Good points both, IMHO, even if they came from a very silly person. I distinctly remember Owen using the "two pronged approach" phrase as a way to keep the on-the-air peace without engaging properly with the proposal.

I'm generally on board with Jones. Well, about 50-60% on board. But given the number of pretty intelligent columns he's written, it's a bit crap that he didn't have answers to Alexei's important questions. Particularly delicious was Alexei's informed citing of specific Jewish (including one Israeli) activists being bounced from the Labour Party on antisemetism charges and his direct "what are your thoughts on that?" to Owen who just blustered.

Owen seems to want to keep things light, but... it's a politics podcast. Not the National Lottery Live.

Ollie Plimsolls! More love pls, thx.

[sutin]

This page has download links in the 3-dot menus for each episode: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-alexei-sayle-podcast-the-alexei-sayle-qSG4I9gcJjA/

Thank you so much for this. I always download podcasts manually as mp3s so Last.fm picks them up.

[monkfromhavana]

Alexei: "The problem of anti-semitism was greatly exaggerated and weaponised, don't you think?"

Owen: "No, I disagree"<5 mins of blather>, "and let's not forget that it's a tiny minority who are engaged in anti-semitism, I can't emphasize that enough"

Alexei "So you agree that it was exaggerated"

Owen "Well, no, because...."

[zomgmouse]

Are there any younger left comedians (younger than those I mentioned) people on here would like to see interact with Sayle etc?

me

[pancreas]

They're all politically vapid, aren't they, the new ones? Know which way their bread is buttered if they want to start/keep doing tv. i.e. Don't call the tories cunts, or the establishment, which is now operated exclusively by them, will have you quietly suppressed. Bit like blackballing unionists.

I'm afraid I don't really know any new unknown political columnists. Very rarely hear standup. I get the feeling everything Sayle did had a political bent, at some level. Mark Thomas would be alright to squirt the squits with, for an hour. What we really need is to get CM in there with him, and we all know it.

They like their panel shows, or family friendly sitcoms, the BBC. That's how you get a career in comedy. Notable exception of That Country.

[Pink Gregory]

Good interview with Alexei by Mark Seddon for Palestine Deep Dive

https://youtu.be/avNLYwQchRw

[Lost Oliver]

me

I love you zomg x

[Lost Oliver]

And thanks all for introducing me to this pod. Never thought I'd get on board with a Sayle podcast but here I am. I feel like I've dsicovered treasure or something.

[Retinend]

Good interview with Alexei by Mark Seddon for Palestine Deep Dive

https://youtu.be/avNLYwQchRw

Right off the bat he characterizes the Israel-Palestine issue as "a very clear-cut wrong" on behalf of the Israelis, i.e. that it's not even a complex issue where there is right and wrong on both sides. What do you make of that?

[phantom_power]

I enjoy his podcast but he fucking butchered that Bob Dylan anecdote. Three times

[zomgmouse]

I love you zomg x

back atcha L.O.

[easytarget]

I enjoy his podcast but he fucking butchered that Bob Dylan anecdote. Three times

Love how it never had a good ending. Hope he does it next time.

[mr. logic]

I was surprised by Lee (just about) self-identifying as a ‘centrist’.

[tribalfusion]

They're all politically vapid, aren't they, the new ones? Know which way their bread is buttered if they want to start/keep doing tv. i.e. Don't call the tories cunts, or the establishment, which is now operated exclusively by them, will have you quietly suppressed. Bit like blackballing unionists.

I'm afraid I don't really know any new unknown political columnists. Very rarely hear standup. I get the feeling everything Sayle did had a political bent, at some level. Mark Thomas would be alright to squirt the squits with, for an hour. What we really need is to get CM in there with him, and we all know it.

They like their panel shows, or family friendly sitcoms, the BBC. That's how you get a career in comedy. Notable exception of That Country.

I would generally agree that those are the trends. However in terms of younger (at least relative to Sayle, Newman or Thomas) more politicized comedians on the left in the UK context I would think of Matthew Alford, Josie Long (at least to some extent), Joe Wells, Tom Mayhew and perhaps a few others.

I'd love to learn about others I may have missed.

[MigraineBoy]

The Stewart Lee ep had an anecdote about a comedian with a brother who works a senior for Apple, who was the catalyst for the “content provider” title.
A Horne Section podcast had an American Vlogger / musician / comic as a guest and in it Alex put some questions to the guest that his tech company employee brother had suggested.

[Stone Cold Steve Austin]

I thought his brother worked at youtube?

[MigraineBoy]

I thought his brother worked at youtube?

Ah, perhaps your right & I misremembered. Just with Stewart mentioning Alex recently when Taskmaster was brought up had be putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with 5.

[Mr_Simnock]

Another superb offering out today

[thugler]

I was surprised by Lee (just about) self-identifying as a ‘centrist’.

Dunno what he meant by that really. He just said people had started to presume he was a 'centralist', 'that's what they call you now isn't it'.
The term centrist is a bit overused at the moment.

[frajer]

Another lovely lockdown cycle added to his YouTube channel. One of my favourite things to do pre-pandemic if I had a weekend on my own was to nip into London for an aimless wander so this is basically porn at this point.