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Wanker fucking landlords... (Rant... Long...)

Started by TOCMFIC, February 03, 2004, 11:07:31 AM

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TOCMFIC

Diatribe time. Gotta vent somewhere.

Okay, we've lived in this stupid town for over 3 years now. Within days of moving in, we discovered our neighbours on one side were cunts. Complained to the landlord. They spoke to them, they lied and said they never played loud music, we were called liars. Multiple complaints, nothing was done. Luckily they moved.

So, landlord rents the place to a friend, who's an even bigger cunt. Not only loud music, but tossing their garbage into our back garden etc... I complained to the landlord (in letter form, since I knew I was going to have problems and it always helps to have stuff in writing) and got a VERY rude response back. A letter that actually contained insults about me.

Anyway, those shits move (and slashed our fucking car tyre when my wife was 7 months pregnant, and we're 2 hours from the nearest hospital set up to deal with pregnancy)... And for over 2 years, things are great....

Then on Friday, we get a note on our door. The new neighbours have complained about US. The landlord jumped on the chance to smack us down. We've been told next time they get a complaint, we're being evicted!!! Nobody has ever complained before, the neighbours who we THOUGHT we got on with have apparently complained about running and jumping sounds, as well as banging. The former is my two year old being a two year old. The latter is him restless at night, rolling into the wall. To move the bed away from the wall would jeopardise his safety.

So the landlord does fuck all about the assholes we had blasting music 24/7 (and I mean loud enough that you could clearly hear the lyrics)... Or when their cunt friend was tossing all their shit into our garden (still have pictures of it) But someone complains about our son being a typically energetic two year old, when the landlord knows we have a kid, as do the neighbours who WERE really nice to us, and we get a shitty letter, referencing the fact that we should "be more considerate because you've complained in the past" despite the fact that was almost 3 fucking years ago.  (Gee, can we say the fucking bitch is carrying a grudge...)

So, having had two lots of neighbours from hell that the bitch landlord did fuck all about, now WE'RE threatened with eviction for a totally  bogus complaint. Since I fear this may end up in court I sent the landlord a letter stating that it's our two year old and said the only way to stop it 100% would be to physically restrain him, and that basically they can fuck off if they think we're going to do that. Pretty sure the court would frown upon the landlord advocating child abuse. I know our rights, and if they try and evict us, they're going to have to take us to court, and to evict the laws state there has be to a substantial breach of the rental agreement. Substantial in legal terms means non-payment of rent and things like that. NOT due to pissy little whiners complaing because a little boy is running around next door.

I am sick of these petty little pissants fucking me over. The landlord has hated us since day one, but getting out of this town is like trying to escape the Village in "The Prisoner"...

ARGHHH! I am just so sick of these fucking cunts. Neighbours who we DID get on great with... Who run and cry to the landlord rather than speak to us, giving the landlord the perfect fucking excuse to pile a ton of shit on our plates.

FUCKING CUNTS ALL OF THEM! They're only still alive because murder is illegal, I swear to god... If I could kill the lot of them, I fucking would. I don't care if I'd burn in hell, it'd be worth it to remove 5 pieces of shit from the planet.

23 Daves

Nice to know that landlords are cunts the whole world over.  That makes for an admirable consistency in their cuntiness if nothing else.  I'm quite sure that if I moved to Japan, I'd find that landlords were unreasonable, rude, paid little attention to health and safety, and thought little of threatening their tenants.

What I hate about them even more is they see themselves as victims, despite raking in money for pretty much no work whatsoever.  The smallest thing to them is hard work, the smallest, cheapest job unnecessary expenditure.  You complain about something, it's because you're being unreasonable.  "And anyway", they usually say, "I sorted that broken window out for you two months ago, remember?".  Yes, I should hope you bloody well did.  It's winter, after all.  I didn't consider it a favour, just a necessary part of your job.

I can think of no other person on earth you actually PAY money to only to get hassle from.  I can also think of no other job in the world where the law favours this behaviour.  Landlords are arseholes, and if you've got some spare cash, practically anyone can become one.  You don't have to be any good at it, you just need the collatoral.  They make me sick.  

I'd get some legal aid quickish if I were you, though, so if you've got any counter attacks.  Best of luck with everything, I sympathise completely with what's going on.

Borboski

In the meantime why dontcha just move your lads bed all the same - just to be reasonable eh?

fanny splendid

I don't know about Canada, but here, they should be made to pay business rates. In fact, landlords should be forced to register it as a business, so they are forced to comply with normal business regulations. How many of these bastards actually declare their earnings to the Inland Revenue?

I met my landlady for the first time last week, and happened to mention to her that, 'I hope you have your tax return done, remember it has to be handed in by the 31st!'

The look was priceless.

TOCMFIC

I already know my legal rights. Luckily the laws aren't stacked in their favour here. It goes like this.

They given an eviction notice

We send in a written note saying basically "fuck off, you have no ground to evict, and here's why..."

They then have to go to the court and get an affidavit and basically justify why we're being evicted. Since no substantial breach of the lease has occured, and I have evidence that when the situation was reversed they did absolutely nothing, we should be okay. We're HOPEFULLY moving soon anyway (fingers crossed... Deposit is in, we just gotta get the money to actually MOVE there now. With no work here that's tricky), but obviously we want to do it on our own terms and not be forced out.

I worked out how much the landlord makes here. It's a rental company from Toronto, but the row of houses we live in, I worked it out that they make over $50,000 from these every month. They also own several apartment blocks in town too. And what do we get for our money? Well, the keep the sidewalks clear of snow, and that's about it...

If our move pans out, I am going to have SUCH a laugh our last month here. I'm going to tell the cow landlord exactly what an unprofessional slag she is, and demonstrate to our neighbours the true definition of the term "noisy neighbours". I feel it's my duty to educate them to stop any potential confusion down the line. Both sides are friendly with each other (and were seemingly with us... Guess you never can tell), older couples, so we think we've been tag teamed by the fuckers complaining. Well, as I said, I plan to illustrate the definition of "noisy neighbours" to teach the sacks of shit a much needed lesson. I'm gonna fucking enjoy it too.

I think Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" would work nicely...

So if anyone has won the lottery and can spare a couple of grand, please lend me some:)

TOCMFIC

Quote from: "Borboski"In the meantime why dontcha just move your lads bed all the same - just to be reasonable eh?

We can't. It's not against either neighbours wall, but the places are so shittily built. Could only move it away from the wall, and given how restless he gets that would be dangerous, and I don't see why I should endanger my two year old because these whiny fucks have nothing better to do than piss and moan to the landlord.

Trust me, if I thought that would end this shit, I'd do it . (Move the bed if  it was against one of "their" walls, not endanger him. Be a cold day in hell before I do that.)

TOCMFIC

Quote from: "fanny splendid"I don't know about Canada, but here, they should be made to pay business rates. In fact, landlords should be forced to register it as a business, so they are forced to comply with normal business regulations. How many of these bastards actually declare their earnings to the Inland Revenue?

I met my landlady for the first time last week, and happened to mention to her that, 'I hope you have your tax return done, remember it has to be handed in by the 31st!'

The look was priceless.

LOL! Nice one. Sadly, here it's a rental company. The parent company is in Toronto. Aside from what I've already detailed, I fully intend to track down the parent the company and tell them what a bitch they have running the show here. I might even shove the fear of god up them and mention words like "discrimination" since essentially we're being threatened because we have a young child.

I mean given what we've been told about the complaint, it seems while I wasn't  paying attention this went from being a rental house to being a prison. Guess I missed that meeting...

Uncle_Z

Just for the record, when my family were landlords we were nice as pie.  eg. House got broken into and I was down within an hour to make secure.  My dad was down within 24 hours to reglaze.  Fridge broke down and i was down with a replacement on the same day.  When student types went away over Summer we would redecorate.  Every sodding year.

This is probably why one set of cunts on leaving the house decided they were going to punch through every single door in the place.  You know, just to show their appreciation.Or why another set filled the bathroom so full of rubbish they had to shit on the floor in every room of the house until they had scorched-earthed themselves back to living in a single room (of a 4 bed + 2reception).

Yes some landlords are scum, and perhaps they were before they started out in that business.  However you might want to lay a bit of blame at the shitty tenants they had before you.

MojoJojo

I think one of the nineteen principles of National Socialism was "No Income unearned from work" *

That Hitler eh, he did know how to pick a vote winner.

*remembered from history GCSE, so probably completely inaccurate in all respects. I tried to look it up on the internet, but just got a load of bullshit loony websites...

TOCMFIC

Well the thing that amazes me is when we complained about the absolute scum next door, they basically turned round and called us liars. Now it's reversed and they can't wait to get shitty with us. I would consider the current landlord scum. She's a just a bitch with a grudge. As my wife says, we're a landlords worse nightmare. We know our rights. That has gotta piss them off.

The whole claim is bogus. I mean they said "loud music after 10pm", which is bullshit because we never play music. The law is, thankfully, on our side. Worse still for them, I think I know more about our rights than they probably do.

Borboski

Fair dosy.

Here is my current landlord rant:

We rant a flat in Manchester in Fallowfield. Just before Xmas the heating went off. We phoned the agency and spent the last few days having cold showers before we went home on the 21st of Dec.

Come about the 28th we phoned back to say - we'd like heating please! "Don't worry - we're sorting it!" Come New Years Day when we arrive still no heating.

Phoned the agency to learn nobody had even had a look at it.

Eventually someone comes round, tuts, and goes away telling us he'll be back. At no point are we ever contacted - we have to chase it up. On about the 7th of Jan (by this point having spent £70 on heaters) we remember there is a flat empty downstairs, so contact the agency can get them to give us the key.

Eventually we write a letter demanding money back of the rent. THE NEXT DAY! some toss comes round and fixes it - admitting it was because we wrote the letter.

We then get a stroppy letter back saying as far as they know the heating has been fixed (1 MONTH after it broke), but saying they'll BUY the heaters off us if we have the reciept...

I checked the contact and it doesn;t say anything about minimum requirements nor heating - do i have a leg to stand on.

I may firebomb the place (Opal Estates)

TOCMFIC

Quote from: "MojoJojo"I think one of the nineteen principles of National Socialism was "No Income unearned from work" *

That Hitler eh, he did know how to pick a vote winner.

*remembered from history GCSE, so probably completely inaccurate in all respects. I tried to look it up on the internet, but just got a load of bullshit loony websites...

hehehe YOu searched for hitler and found a bunch of loony websites? Gee, there's a shocker:)

Actually, wife will probably apply for student loans and continue her degree. Then once we get to a REAL town and not this backward ass bunch of fuckwads where we are now (where Deliverance is considered educational viewing...) I can finally get a decent job.

Thanks for the posts folks. This has been a hellish few days and venting here has vented a little of my anger. A killing spree now would probably involve handguns, not automatic weapons now...

I'm off  to bed...

fanny splendid

Quote from: "TOCMFIC"LOL! Nice one. Sadly, here it's a rental company.

I presume that there are rental companies here, but there are an awful lot of small time, grab the money, landlords. Because of the ridiculous rise in house prices over most of Britain, those who already own, have suddenly found themselves sitting on a small fortune. The low interest rates which have proved bad for savers, have proved a godsend for those looking to borrow.

Hence every two bit builder and his wife getting a second house to rent out.

The girlfriend and I are in the situation were no bank will lend us the kind of money it would cost to buy the house we are in at the moment, and yet the monthly rent we are paying on the property is of course more than the monthly mortgage repayment.

The reason I met the landlady for the first time, even though I have lived here for five months, is because I am not normally allowed. My girlfriend deals with anything were the truth shouted at the top of your voice, a weekender style snarl on your face, is a no-no.

Uncle_Z


Purple Tentacle

It's all the practising he does going up and down the chimney for Christmas that the landlord's so pissed off about.

fanny splendid

Quote from: "Uncle_Z"But you seem so fluffy and gentle.

And so I was, but oh, this world tortures so!

I was a landlord once, and so I do appreciate that there are bad tenants out there. It's all part of a wider social problem, though. Or not, depending upon your politics.

Stalemate.

thisissi

Quote from: "Borboski"Fair dosy.

I may firebomb the place (Opal Estates)

You're lucky, I used to rent a flat in Fallowfield from Park Lane, we had to go without running water once for 4 days.

23 Daves

As many verbwhores know, until a couple of days ago in my house there wasn't proper heating in most parts, and hadn't been for two months.  Before Christmas I phoned the agency and explained that I was actually having to spend the festive period at home (as is my right as a tenant) and I'd prefer not to sit with my girlfriend pulling crackers in the freezing cold.  I also told them that if they didn't fix it (having already been given one month's warning) I'd get a plumber out myself and deduct his bill from my rent.

"YOU DO THAT I WILL EEVEECT YOU!" she yelled.  "I WILL FINE YOU!!!"

No Merry Christmas, nothing.  And no, the heating wasn't bloody fixed for Christmas, either.  They didn't even get around to looking at it until the 27th, and then only decided after much pontification that the job was so complex it needed a plumber a couple of weeks ago.

Suffice to say, I'm moving out, and if it weren't for the fact that other people will still be living in the house when I go, I'd happily trash the place.

I did have one good landlord once, back in Portsmouth.  

I have to say though, Uncle Z, as uncharitable to students as it sounds, I really wouldn't bother decorating a house for for them every year.  That's being too kind.

The Culture Bunker

On a happier note, during my student years in Aldershot I had a great landlord. Any problems, he was round the next day sorting it out plus he was a lovely man to boot. Only £50 a week for my room as well.

I'm remembering the names Opal and Park Lane should I move to Manchester. Avoid them if I can, right?

Quote from: "23 Daves"I did have one good landlord once, back in Portsmouth.
My current landlord (going on 4 years now) is a pretty sound guy.

I had a terrible landlady the first year I started working though. I caught her on numerous occasions in my bedsit just snooping around (she had keys to every bedsit in the house, natch) up to no good. And she never fixed anything I ask her to (many times). Bitch. But I was poor and the place was relatively cheap.

<Bottom>"Great Days!"</Bottom>

Incredible Monkey Doctor

As a Landlord (and one going to have mental problems with his late tax return thsi eveing) I have to defend.

Landlords are sometimes cunts. Tenants are sometimes cunts. This is because both groups of people happen to be.. er...  human.

I'm a nice Landlord who fixes things because i'm a nice person. My Uncle is a nice landlord (despite having once to evict tenants for butchering a goat in the bedroom) because he's a nice person. My first cuntymint of a Landlord in Manchester was a cunt because he was a cunt, my second wasn't a cunt because he wasn't. My last few landladies have all been lovely.

Rule of thumb: Landlord a cunt? Move out. Da-daaah!

fanny splendid

Quote from: "Incredible Monkey Doctor"Rule of thumb: Landlord a cunt? Move out. Da-daaah!

...and remember to wave goodbye to that deposit. Da-fucking daaah!

fanny splendid

Quote from: "Incredible Monkey Doctor"Rule of thumb: Landlord a cunt? Move out. Da-daaah!

...and remember to wave goodbye to that deposit.

(You could use that to pay your £100 fine.)

Da-fucking daaah!

Incredible Monkey Doctor

Quote from: "fanny splendid"
Quote from: "Incredible Monkey Doctor"Rule of thumb: Landlord a cunt? Move out. Da-daaah!

...and remember to wave goodbye to that deposit. Da-fucking daaah!

Well if you lose your deposit to a cunt of a landlord, you're a stupid cunt for not witholding the last months rent.

Or in worst case scenario, if you're going to lose your deposit whatever happens, make sure you do enough damage to ensure the Landlord gets no value from it.

TOCMFIC

Sacrificing a goat in the place... Yeah, I'd say that was good grounds for eviction.

I don't think we'll be getting our deposit back sadly. I wouldn't cause a load of damage... As amusing as that would be.

Heard back from the Landlord and Tenant Advisory Board. The "substantial breach" thing is sadly, rather vague. "Fail to be considerate of other tenants" is the wording. The fucker landlord did nothing about the previous problems we had... But suddenly my son running is failing to be considerate. Cunts.

I have enough shit in my life right now without these cocksuckers...

fanny splendid

Quote from: "Incredible Monkey Doctor"Or in worst case scenario, if you're going to lose your deposit whatever happens, make sure you do enough damage to ensure the Landlord gets no value from it.

You're not advocating criminal damage, are you?

As for the other, well that's fine if your deposit is the same as one months rent. And it's fine if you like being hassled by the landlord, and later their representatives. And it's fine if you like being arrested for kicking the living shit out of some cunt who makes the mistake of threatening you, but can't back it up, apart from crawling to the police.

I agree with you that there are as many bad tennants, as bad landlords, but at the moment the landlords have all of the power. So I believe the onus is on them to set the standard.

Incredible Monkey Doctor

Quote from: "fanny splendid"

You're not advocating criminal damage, are you?

Of course not. That would be irresponsible. ;)

Quote from: "fanny splendid"As for the other, well that's fine if your deposit is the same as one months rent. And it's fine if you like being hassled by the landlord, and later their representatives. And it's fine if you like being arrested for kicking the living shit out of some cunt who makes the mistake of threatening you, but can't back it up, apart from crawling to the police.

I agree with you that there are as many bad tennants, as bad landlords, but at the moment the landlords have all of the power. So I believe the onus is on them to set the standard.

It's swings and roundabouts. It's entirely possible for a tenant to do thousands worth of damage without the Landlord finding out. The Landlord probably can inflict more misery though without much punishment, but this is the free market at work - you don't like the accomodation, you leave*. You don't get your deposit, then off to small claims. A decent system needs to be enforced for Deposit handling - there is one, but i'm not sure of the details and it's not compulsory. Like owning a dog, you should probably have to get a licence to be a landlord.

The housing situation is far less fair on home buyers. Sellers have so much power - potential buyers can accumulate huge costs doing thier side of the bargain, only for the seller to change their mind at the last minute. The poor buyer has no recourse at all. Plus why the fuck does it take so long? Because of a chain of self serving fucks (notably solicitors and estate agents) getting their oar in. Grr.

End my property rant/warbling.

* I'm not advocating this is the way it is, just the principle.

TOCMFIC

Here, with deposits, there are very explicit laws regarding how they have to be handled. They have to be put into a bank account that is used SOLELY for damage deposits and nothing else. You also earn  interest on it. I think the rate for where we are, after 4 years, is 1.7%.

Was reading a rather scary article about how a few thousand people were evicted in this fashion prior to the Calgary Winter Olympics in 1988, so the landlords could rent out the units for inflated prices.

Just discovered that the landlord and tenant act here has provisions that say the landlord can evict you without cause so long as they give you 90 days notice. If that happened to me now it hopefully won't be an issue with our planned move coming up. Trying to get the wheels in motion to get out of here sooner rather than later.

Handing in our notice is going to be fun. I think I'll go with short and to the point.

"Dear Sandy,

You are a bitch. We are leaving. This is our one month notice. Fuck you."

TOCMFIC

Quote from: "MojoJojo"I think one of the nineteen principles of National Socialism was "No Income unearned from work" *

You know, this quote stuck with me all day. What a load of old bollocks that is. Perhaps in a society where there are jobs for everyone, fair enough, but in todays climate, with spiralling unemployment, it's hardly a endearing philosophy.

Good job the nazi's didn't win...