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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #690 on: September 29, 2021, 01:19:14 PM »
blimey, even the empty shelves have been flogged there. if they get a delivery they'll just have to scatter it across the floor. 

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #692 on: September 29, 2021, 01:43:09 PM »
Was at the big Oxford St M&S yesterday and they'd closed off the top floors (though the escalators were still running), squeezed in a selection of what was there on other floors and badly painted over the old signs of what was on what floor. Didn't exactly inspire confidence in them.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #693 on: September 30, 2021, 02:45:04 PM »
Was that M&S Marble Arch [i.e. not the Pantheon]? If so, they are redeveloping the site and plan to rent out the upper floors as offices.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #694 on: September 30, 2021, 02:49:17 PM »
Was that M&S Marble Arch [i.e. not the Pantheon]? If so, they are redeveloping the site and plan to rent out the upper floors as offices.

Nah, Newcastle.

Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #695 on: September 30, 2021, 02:49:54 PM »
Was that M&S Marble Arch [i.e. not the Pantheon]? If so, they are redeveloping the site and plan to rent out the upper floors as offices.

Ah - addressing that other problem of a lack of office space. This is all coming together nicely.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #696 on: September 30, 2021, 02:53:01 PM »

Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #697 on: September 30, 2021, 03:12:55 PM »
Was that M&S Marble Arch [i.e. not the Pantheon]? If so, they are redeveloping the site and plan to rent out the upper floors as offices.

That was the one I was referring to. Still supposed to be a couple of years away from them starting work on redeveloping it though.

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« Reply #698 on: September 30, 2021, 03:52:04 PM »
That was the one I was referring to. Still supposed to be a couple of years away from them starting work on redeveloping it though.
If they can prove to the council the floorspace is not in use, they can get a reduction in business rates. We did the same thing with our large open-plan office at the start fo the first lockdown - barriered half of it off for the council inspection.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #699 on: October 07, 2021, 02:44:40 PM »

No cake, and no chips

Intel not considering UK chip factory after Brexit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58820599

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #700 on: October 07, 2021, 04:33:46 PM »
Just to make it clear, there wsn't one planned anyway, just that now a potential plant won't be considered in the UK IF they do invest in a factory in Europe.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #701 on: October 07, 2021, 05:18:37 PM »
Yes, they won’t even consider the UK, because of Brexit. They won’t be the last

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #702 on: October 13, 2021, 12:38:47 PM »
Great way to make more work for underpaid, overworked supermarket staff: https://twitter.com/JohnTwelvetrees/status/1441779403017515011

I agree with what the sticker says but what do these people expect to happen? We aren't going to rejoin the EU and even if we elected a government of FBPE types I imagine the EU would say no. "Blame Brexit not Covid" does also ignore how the government's plan to have the virus let rip is making so many people sick.

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« Reply #703 on: October 13, 2021, 12:40:59 PM »
Would the supermarket workers be obliged to take them down? Fuck it leave them up.

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« Reply #704 on: October 13, 2021, 12:44:47 PM »
I imagine central office would issue a directive to managers, especially if a load of gammons kicked off and wrote to supermarket head offices.

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« Reply #705 on: October 13, 2021, 06:50:46 PM »
I imagine central office would issue a directive to managers, especially if a load of gammons kicked off and wrote to supermarket head offices.

Yea - bit like removing all the unnecessary wrappings around fruit and veg and dumping it at the cash register -  a worthy sentiment but it's just some poor sod on minimum wage who has to come round and clear it all up as well as mop up in aisle 2.

Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #706 on: October 13, 2021, 07:14:01 PM »
So the EU have offered what business wants. Expect it to be rejected as the Tories need to be able to blame the EU for all the shit to come.

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« Reply #707 on: October 13, 2021, 07:33:56 PM »
The thing I can't quite get over here is that these people think the problem with the Brexit deal is in the bit of the UK that hasn't had rolling shortages of basic goods in the shops.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #709 on: October 14, 2021, 08:04:36 AM »
this is exactly what I voted for when I put a cross in the 'Yes' box

I was very surprised to see Reg Houldsworth of Bettabuy halfway through the article.


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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #711 on: October 14, 2021, 08:24:13 AM »
So the EU have offered what business wants. Expect it to be rejected as the Tories need to be able to blame the EU for all the shit to come.

It does seem to vindicate a hardline strategy, as they seem to have offered more than the UK was expecting already, and they might move on the courts in Northern Ireland. Frustrating for those of us who want to see them tell B**** to go fuck himself.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #712 on: October 19, 2021, 12:53:09 AM »
Yes, they won’t even consider the UK, because of Brexit. They won’t be the last

Interesting to see both Nisan and Ford invest then in the UK for EV cars. https://insideevs.com/news/541516/nissan-leaf-replaced-by-crossover/ & https://insideevs.com/news/541489/uk-ford-halewood-drive-units/

Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #713 on: October 19, 2021, 08:25:22 AM »
Isn't it pretty much accepted that the main reason Nissan stuck around is that UKGov basically gave them a huge bribe to stay. No idea about Ford.

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #714 on: October 19, 2021, 09:12:00 AM »
An awful lot of public money going to support foreign shareholder's interests so's (some) British workers get to keep their jobs after Brexit.  But, if you don't think about it too much, it looks fine.  Hurrah for Britain throwing off the chains of outside interference.

Quote from: Investment Monitor
Nissan’s plans for a £1bn electric vehicle (EV) hub in Sunderland have been greeted with great fanfare by the UK government, with the investment described by Prime Minister Boris Johnson as a “pivotal moment” for the UK’s post-EU future.

The government is backing the investment with £100m in subsidies, equivalent to 35% of Nissan’s total capital investment costs, and providing the land at agricultural rates.

Quote from: The FT
The US group (Ford) will establish production of electric power units at the site from 2024 in a move that will safeguard 500 jobs. The investment is conditional on £30m of government funding, according to people familiar with the matter.

With the UK banning petrol and diesel vehicle sales from 2030, the car industry is under intense pressure to establish the infrastructure, including the supply of batteries, to produce electric cars at scale and protect jobs.

Ministers have set aside £500m in total to try to convince electric car and battery manufacturers to bring work to the UK to protect the country’s vehicle and component plants. The UK has said it will end the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035, with some hybrids allowed after 2030.

https://investmentmonitor.ai/analysis/government-subsidies-sunderland-brexit
https://www.ft.com/content/38579e30-d4ce-4dee-9acd-52d7e6350e87
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/22/uk-gives-ford-500m-in-loan-guarantees-to-support-exports

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #715 on: October 19, 2021, 10:17:53 AM »
Is £60,000 per job a good rate?

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Re: Post-Brexit fallout - we can't have our cake or eat it
« Reply #719 on: October 19, 2021, 12:02:29 PM »
Yes it won't be built here but it's still expanding the hub in the UK which is good.

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