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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2021, 10:11:16 PM »
Imagine how pathetic they’ll look if they don’t vote to convict. Trump gets to claim victory, and he’s still eligible to run in 2022. Worst of all worlds.

Which if they realise this, might scare them to voting to convict.

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« Reply #91 on: January 13, 2021, 10:22:20 PM »
It is genuinely surprising that a Rep from SC would step up like this. Hope it bodes well for kicking the cunt out.

Which cunt? Helps to be specific when referring to multiple Republicans.

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #92 on: January 13, 2021, 10:26:49 PM »
Tom Rice who I think gave no indication on how he would vote beforehand.

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« Reply #93 on: January 13, 2021, 10:28:32 PM »
So they need 18 in the senate right? Is there any indication of that being at all likely?

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« Reply #94 on: January 13, 2021, 10:28:59 PM »
Which cunt? Helps to be specific when referring to multiple Republicans.

The orange cunt. Happy to clarify. Though I have little doubt that Rep Rice, however he may have voted in this instance, is also a cunt. He's a Republican from South Carolina ffs

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #95 on: January 13, 2021, 10:34:17 PM »
So they need 18 in the senate right? Is there any indication of that being at all likely?

17 I think (and maybe only 16 because Kamala can vote if she likes but not sure on that).

McConnell is letting it happen, which considering how stringently he was whipping the vote in the first impeachment trial indicates it might not be a total waste of time (like the first one).

I reckon it’ll still fail, but might get to 55-60 senate votes which in the partisan environment of 2021 is pretty impressive.

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« Reply #96 on: January 13, 2021, 10:37:21 PM »
The orange cunt. Happy to clarify. Though I have little doubt that Rep Rice, however he may have voted in this instance, is also a cunt. He's a Republican from South Carolina ffs

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #97 on: January 13, 2021, 10:38:56 PM »
17 I think (and maybe only 16 because Kamala can vote if she likes but not sure on that).

McConnell is letting it happen, which considering how stringently he was whipping the vote in the first impeachment trial indicates it might not be a total waste of time (like the first one).

I reckon it’ll still fail, but might get to 55-60 senate votes which in the partisan environment of 2021 is pretty impressive.

Isn't it far more a waste of time, in that Donald J. Trump's term expires in one week? I imagine McConnell is encouraging is so the Democrats waste the start of Biden's terms rather than actually doing something.

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« Reply #98 on: January 13, 2021, 10:40:42 PM »
I'm sure its been brought up plenty of times but surely inciting violence on your own nation's capital and inciting insurrection is tantamount to treason? Should he get the death penalty?

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #99 on: January 13, 2021, 10:42:10 PM »
Isn't it far more a waste of time, in that Donald J. Trump's term expires in one week? I imagine McConnell is encouraging is so the Democrats waste the start of Biden's terms rather than actually doing something.

Biden has two years of full legislative control locked in, and centrist dems are more than capable of wasting time without Mitch’s shenanigans. I think a lot of the congressional republicans are more flabbergasted that trumps mental cult actually impacted them! Directly! We had to go in a different room for a bit and stay late!

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« Reply #100 on: January 13, 2021, 10:44:00 PM »
Biden has two years of full legislative control locked in, and centrist dems are more than capable of wasting time without Mitch’s shenanigans. I think a lot of the congressional republicans are more flabbergasted that trumps mental cult actually impacted them! Directly! We had to go in a different room for a bit and stay late!

Two years is not long, and a lot of legislative accomplishments need to be pushed through with the initial momentum of taking office, not to mention hundreds of administrative and judicial appointments.

I see zero purpose in wasting time impeaching Trump. If they can do it in an afternoon then fine, but they are going to drag this charade out again!

Of course that's no accident, the Democratic leadership do not actually want to do anything now that they have control of Congress.

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« Reply #101 on: January 13, 2021, 10:47:27 PM »
I'm sure its been brought up plenty of times but surely inciting violence on your own nation's capital and inciting insurrection is tantamount to treason? Should he get the death penalty?
maybe he will have himself killed to appeal to his law an ordah base

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« Reply #102 on: January 13, 2021, 10:48:12 PM »
Isn't it far more a waste of time, in that Donald J. Trump's term expires in one week? I imagine McConnell is encouraging is so the Democrats waste the start of Biden's terms rather than actually doing something.
If Trump is impeached, with another vote he can be barred from running again.


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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #103 on: January 13, 2021, 10:52:43 PM »
Isn't it far more a waste of time, in that Donald J. Trump's term expires in one week? I imagine McConnell is encouraging is so the Democrats waste the start of Biden's terms rather than actually doing something.

A successful impeachment lays the foundation for Trump to be banned from entering the 2024 election, and also removes his presidential pension and Secret Service detail (and probably his access to the intelligence briefings that ex-presidents get) so no, not really.[1]
 1.  Although I liked the idea of Trump running as a spoiler in the 2024 election, that could obviously backfire if he somehow got elected again, and hopefully the MAGA chumps will still screw with the GOP primary.

Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #104 on: January 13, 2021, 10:55:25 PM »
it'd be good if the cunt just died too tbh

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« Reply #105 on: January 13, 2021, 10:58:30 PM »
Two years is not long, and a lot of legislative accomplishments need to be pushed through with the initial momentum of taking office, not to mention hundreds of administrative and judicial appointments.

I see zero purpose in wasting time impeaching Trump. If they can do it in an afternoon then fine, but they are going to drag this charade out again!

Of course that's no accident, the Democratic leadership do not actually want to do anything now that they have control of Congress.

Bernie’s point (and I agree with him AS PER BLOODY USUAL) was that if they didn’t impeach trump over this, then what kind of precedent are they setting? House has already voted (so they’re done with it) and it’s a lame duck session so it isn’t holding anything up[1]

I agree with you if this starts to drag out and get in the way of actual legislation before the senate, then yeah it is a waste of time.
 1. well, the $2k relief cheques but that won’t make it through this session anyway

Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #106 on: January 13, 2021, 11:03:18 PM »
Trump meant to be speaking soon. I doubt he will have the sense to resign although if he did then he could run again in 2024. That option might be closed if he gets convicted in the senate.

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #107 on: January 14, 2021, 08:34:24 AM »
So he will be impeached, but not before he leaves office. I presume he still has to turn up to the trial? Can imagine him not bothering.

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #108 on: January 14, 2021, 08:39:49 AM »
It will be funny if they somehow manage to squeeze in the senate vote before the 20th and Pence becomes president for a day.



And who but a fool would want that?

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #109 on: January 14, 2021, 08:46:37 AM »
I'm sure its been brought up plenty of times but surely inciting violence on your own nation's capital and inciting insurrection is tantamount to treason? Should he get the death penalty?

It’s not treason, it’s insurrection. He’s being impeached for High Crimes and Misdemeanours which, while requiring a lower standard of proof for incitement than strict criminal liability (which, due the the 1st Amendment, is almost absurdly high) also carries different penalties.

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Re: Trump Impeachment 2: Donald's hiding in the loo
« Reply #110 on: January 14, 2021, 08:49:34 AM »
This is an explanation of this complex and fairly arcane point of law that was simple enough for an idiot like me to understand:

https://youtu.be/XwqAInN9HWI

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