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Orange Cunt Finally Booted Off Twitter

Started by Small Potatoes, January 08, 2021, 11:29:59 PM

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Petey Pate

Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on January 09, 2021, 03:36:33 AM
Dondr

Trumpr

Cuntr

Something like that anyway.

Someone should definitely purchase the trumpr.com domain name right now (apparently costs $1999).

chveik

Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on January 09, 2021, 01:22:50 PM
His incitement finally lead to real-world violence.

wut

they banned him because he lost and they need to be on the Biden administration's good side.

idunnosomename

generally assume that the decisions that a corporation makes is always motivated by a desire to keep making profit

Ferris

Quote from: idunnosomename on January 09, 2021, 01:50:49 PM
generally assume that the decisions that a corporation makes is always motivated by a desire to keep making profit

Yeah and having him on there is bad for business (he broadcasts conspiracy theories and incites violence which kills people and makes revoking section 230 all the more likely). If it wasn't bad for business, they wouldn't have canned him.


Captain Z

Quote from: Zetetic on January 09, 2021, 01:26:27 PM
I think they would have been very worried about the government reacting with something like EO 13925, but with more time and teeth to actually bring it to bear.

EO 13925... all dogs must be carried on moving walkways exceeding 10 meters in length?

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: Ignatius_S on January 09, 2021, 02:32:30 PM
From yesterday: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/capitol-riot-democrats-social-media-456325

The US fined Boeing $2.5bn the other day, probably one of the few state actors outside China who really can stand up to big corporations if they are so inclined.


Zetetic

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on January 09, 2021, 03:15:26 PM
The US fined Boeing $2.5bn the other day, probably one of the few state actors outside China who really can stand up to big corporations if they are so inclined.
Hmm. With France, we fined Airbus £2.5bn this year. (Edit: And I'm not sure the SFO is even entirely finished with all that.)

Not sure one-off fines really mean much here[nb]Edit: Probably particularly in the aircraft industry where it's all heavily reliant on state support anyway.[/nb], it's whether we're going to see a change in liability. Or whether the US Government is happy to continue to use the threat of such a change to drive censorship at arms length (and no real recourse to the courts).

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: Zetetic on January 09, 2021, 03:24:23 PM
Hmm. With France, we fined Airbus £2.5bn this year. (Edit: And I'm not sure the SFO is even entirely finished with all that.)

Not sure one-off fines really mean much here, it's whether we're going to see a change in liability. Or whether the US Government is happy to continue to use the threat of such a change to drive censorship at arms length (and no real recourse to the courts).

I believe $2.5 is about 3 years worth of net profit for Boeing so hardly insigificant, that represents a real adjustment.

It was offered up in evidence of willingness to stand up to corporate might.

As you hint above, I hope that they can pursue the matter in ways that encourage/prod social media companies to reform themselves internally rather than it being some big overarching imposition that can be portrayed as censorship.

Thursday

Even for very online twitter people, I can't comprehend the brain rot of the "The President is being silenced!!! This is Orwellian" takes. How can people have so little understanding. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. These people need deprogramming.

Zetetic

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on January 09, 2021, 03:30:28 PM
I believe $2.5 is about 3 years worth of net profit for Boeing so hardly insigificant, that represents a real adjustment.
This is a bit of tangent, and not with the aim of proving you're wrong, but I think it's an interesting one:

It's less than a tenth of the revenue that Boeing obtains directly from the US Government each year (by virtue of it being the second-largest defence contractor), before we even get into the massive web of subsidies that sustains national aircraft industries everywhere.

It turns out that the fine is only $250 million. Most of the rest is a settlement to airlines (to keep propping that heavily subsided industry up, presumably).

Quote from: Shoulders?-Stomach! on January 09, 2021, 03:30:28 PM
As you hint above, I hope that they can pursue the matter in ways that encourage/prod social media companies to reform themselves internally rather than it being some big overarching imposition that can be portrayed as censorship.
It is and can be portrayed as censorship in either case. The "encourage/prod" stuff just means that it's censorship without any transparency or public accountability as to where the standards and tests actually lie.

It's how we ended up with their practices over the last four years as well as their actions yesterday.



Zetetic

My actual point with the Airbus comparison (before I got distracted by how none of this is real because aircraft manufacturing makes no sense) was that we can do this as much as the US does.

(The EU can, anyway.)

Quote from: chveik on January 09, 2021, 01:49:30 PM
wut

they banned him because he lost and they need to be on the Biden administration's good side.

Absolutely. I suspect people from the Biden camp actively reached out to Twitter (as the incoming administration) and said this was necessary for security on inauguration day or whatever.

No matter, still extremely funny that he's gone. And actually a huge net positive for the world.

The problem with the criticisms of this move from the left is that they are premised on it being extremely concerning that private corporations have this level of power over the public sphere. That is absolutely true, but that concern still exists whether or not they actually exercise that reserved power to kick right-wing dipshits off the platform. It requires solutions that have nothing to do with just hoping that they let everybody post freely.


sevendaughters

I mean, Twitter haven't kicked any of the official Chinese accounts that tweet utter twaddle about the great treatment the Uighurs get in their special holiday autonomous zones, they are not utilising their power altruistically, they are merely expedient in the wind of power and money

Quote from: sevendaughters on January 09, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
I mean, Twitter haven't kicked any of the official Chinese accounts that tweet utter twaddle about the great treatment the Uighurs get in their special holiday autonomous zones, they are not utilising their power altruistically, they are merely expedient in the wind of power and money

haha

Mister Six

Quote from: Pearly-Dewdrops Drops on January 09, 2021, 04:24:13 PM
Absolutely. I suspect people from the Biden camp actively reached out to Twitter (as the incoming administration) and said this was necessary for security on inauguration day or whatever

Or said that if they didn't wind these cunts' necks in, it would be very hard for Biden and Congress to justify keeping Section 230.

Zetetic

As they've been saying for months anyway.

Might have been Ajit Pai going on record that he was done.

bgmnts

Swaying to the breeze. Good old twitter.

chveik

trump to nuke silicon valley just to own the libs

mobias

Trump has been banned from Pinterest. The game really is well and truly over for him now.


Thomas

Has Johnny Marr banned him from liking The Smiths yet?

DrGreggles

Quote from: mobias on January 09, 2021, 06:51:15 PM
Trump has been banned from Pinterest. The game really is well and truly over for him now.



MySpace?

Bleeding Kansas

Damn, not Twitch.

I really wanted to see him speedrun Super Metroid.

honeychile

Great to see that social media companies are finally taking a stand and will be banning anyone who advocates bombing and invading foreign countries or overthrowing elected governments.

wait its not gonna work like that is it

vanilla.coffee

Has Trump been banned from pornhub yet ?


idunnosomename

trump found his old gamefaqs forums account and is currently posting racial slurs everywhere! terrible

Quote from: Thomas on January 09, 2021, 06:53:14 PM
Has Johnny Marr banned him from liking The Smiths yet?

Not yet, though Morrissey will no doubt let us know what a hero Trump is in the next few days