Author Topic: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]  (Read 27577 times)

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2021, 04:49:33 PM »
Adrian Charles and that other guy who talks about how tricky it is stacking the dishwasher and not being able to decide what bird feed to buy - Peter something or another. Privileged dribbling for the broken minds of capitalists with a sad face.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2021, 04:51:19 PM »
Adrian Charles is the partner of the Guardian editor Katherine Viner. For the other one do you mean Tim Dowling? Is he still there?

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2021, 05:03:17 PM »
do all broadsheet supplements still have a Barbara Ellen knockoff who calls their partner some weird name like The Blonde
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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2021, 05:58:42 PM »
Simon Jenkins is weird, he is massively pompous but lives entirely in his own world and doesn't exactly set any agendas. He's a sort of paternalistic libertarian, which I wouldn't even have thought possible, but he manages it.

Does Natalie Nougayrède still write for them? She is actually quite frightening, not centrist because of cowardice or Britpoppy nostalgia but because she is a true believer. Drunk ALL the Kool-Aid. Genuinely wants a Third Way for ever and ever and ever.

A rule of thumb, though, is that Observer people (Cohen, Ellen) are almost always worse than Guardian people

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2021, 06:00:35 PM »
Adrian Charles is the partner of the Guardian editor Katherine Viner. For the other one do you mean Tim Dowling? Is he still there?

That's the fella, Dowling. Drip feeding us mediocrity until we give in.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2021, 06:05:42 PM »
Adrian Charles is the partner of the Guardian editor Katherine Viner. For the other one do you mean Tim Dowling? Is he still there?

I've always disliked Tim Dowling. His column replaced Jon Ronson's Out of the Ordinary when Ronson left. I'd always liked OOtO and Dowling was a very, very, very, very, very pale comparison in the "everyday antics"/"man lost at sea" column stakes. It wasn't Dowling's fault that this replacement had occurred obviously, but that someone at the G thought it acceptable boggled my mind.

Spin forward about 15 years to the broadcast night of Detectorists. "This is great," I thought, "what a lovely surprise," only to see a strangely lukewarm review of it in the Guardian. In the review, Lance's band Fanny Magnet was described incorrectly as "Pussy Magnet." WHO IS THIS FUCKER, I thought, WHO COULD MISUNDERSTAND COMEDY SO BADLY. Imagine my delight when I saw who had written it.

All of this to say that my comedy and humour opinions are always correct. #vindicated

Also that the media really is a closed-doors citadel full of unqualified, unimaginative friends-of-friends and the likes. Dowling. Bah.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2021, 06:08:19 PM »
Is Sam Wollaston still there? If anyone is worse than him I would genuinely like to see it, because his TV reviews are astonishing. I've said it on here before, but they read like they have been dictated by a child, with him barely talking about the show in question but giving a load of back story about his day up to the point that he started watching it. And he usually gets sidetracked during the sidetrack as well. Apparently he is a lovely man, which does at least explain how he has had the job for so long.

Marina Hyde is great. She doesn't affect anything beyond getting a lot of applause emojis on Twitter for her takes on the political issues of the day, but at this point I'm not sure it's realistic to expect a columnist to change anything.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2021, 06:11:14 PM »
Tim Dowling's SHITE makes me want to stab forks into neck. My neck, someone else's neck, it doesn't really matter. I want to slap everyone involved in bringing it to print/website.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2021, 12:11:16 AM »
Does Natalie Nougayrède still write for them? She is actually quite frightening, not centrist because of cowardice or Britpoppy nostalgia but because she is a true believer. Drunk ALL the Kool-Aid. Genuinely wants a Third Way for ever and ever and ever.

Matthew d'Ancona does the same kind of centrist propaganda but he's more on the liberal Tory side (although he is no longer a Guardian columnist).

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2021, 01:44:37 AM »
I know the OP is looking for writers who are bad in terms of politics, but I still can't get over this restaurant review by Grace Dent.

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The chef at Bank House in Chislehurst is called Bobby Brown, which is the type of news that is like catnip to me. “I don’t think it’s the actual Bobby Brown, king of new jack swing, Grace,” Charles said wearily.

“It could be,” I argued. “Maybe he got tired of all that humpin’ around.”

“This Bobby Brown does flat iron steak with marrowbone and Marmite,” Charles said, ignoring me.

“Well, that’s his prerogative,” I gasped, by now weak with mirth.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2021, 08:08:19 AM »
Matthew d'Ancona does the same kind of centrist propaganda but he's more on the liberal Tory side (although he is no longer a Guardian columnist).

I'd forgotten about him. Look at his little face. Right next to "gammon" in the dictionary, can't miss it.


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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2021, 08:13:05 AM »
I know the OP is looking for writers who are bad in terms of politics, but I still can't get over this restaurant review by Grace Dent.

Grace Dent previously wrote columns about how she didn't really care about food so obviously she got a position reviewing restaurants. She is fucking awful.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2021, 08:53:44 AM »
I'd forgotten about him. Look at his little face. Right next to "gammon" in the dictionary, can't miss it.



Guammon.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2021, 10:42:16 AM »
I know the OP is looking for writers who are bad in terms of politics, but I still can't get over this restaurant review by Grace Dent.
I'll say it again, it's not as bad as this. Nothing is as bad as this. Ever.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/series/the-secret-diary-of-carrie-symonds

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2021, 12:01:34 PM »
I'll say it again, it's not as bad as this. Nothing is as bad as this. Ever.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/series/the-secret-diary-of-carrie-symonds

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2021, 12:11:59 PM »
Reminder that worthless unfunny hack was married to a Baron Sackville-West and had a fling with John Humphrys

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2021, 12:15:58 PM »
Grace Dent previously wrote columns about how she didn't really care about food so obviously she got a position reviewing restaurants. She is fucking awful.

I don't quite know why they have two restaurant reviewers, particularly when the other one is Jay Rayner. Is this normal? Do most papers have more than one or is the Guardian just profligate? (despite begging all the time). It'd make a bit more sense if one did London and the other did the rest of the country (seeing as how they're always getting trounced for being too London-centric and not reviewing literally everyone's personal favourite places exactly where they live) but they don't.

It's been pointless reading either of their columns recently anyway as they've both agreed to only review positively until Covid's over and the restaurant industry is back on it's feet, which is fair enough of course but it doesn't make up for the fact that one bloody good hatchet job is worth ten "The triple cooked chips were to die for!"

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2021, 12:17:26 PM »
Dent's the Guardian, Rayner is the Observer.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2021, 12:24:34 PM »
Simon Jenkins is weird, he is massively pompous but lives entirely in his own world and doesn't exactly set any agendas. He's a sort of paternalistic libertarian, which I wouldn't even have thought possible, but he manages it.
Calling for the abolition of jury trials last week! His opinions are a rat-bag of Tory eccentricity, with no interest in evidence or rational argument. He also supports drug legalisation, criticises the financial sector, wants universities to drastically reform, was cautiously pro-Sweden on COVID, and really really wants to change planning law so English villages are safe for bicycling old ladies (where does everyone else live? probably in undersea ant farms).

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2021, 12:24:46 PM »
Dent's the Guardian, Rayner is the Observer.

Oh. There's no obvious distinction on the website, they both just appear in the food section under restaurants. It's been that many years since I've bought a newspaper I'd forgotten they called it The Observer at the weekend tbh.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2021, 12:26:53 PM »
^ It's the same as how Kermode reviews films for the Observer (sometimes at least), and Peter Bradshaw does the Guardian.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2021, 12:27:25 PM »
Jenkins has also given many completely polar opposite opinions on heritage issues. Not that theres anything wrong with changing your mind, but helps if you acknowledge it

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2021, 12:27:56 PM »
Oh. There's no obvious distinction on the website, they both just appear in the food section under restaurants. It's been that many years since I've bought a newspaper I'd forgotten they called it The Observer at the weekend tbh.

Yep, hosting the Observer on the same platform doesn't do the Guardian any favours, as incredible as it may seem the Observer is far far worse.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2021, 12:30:08 PM »
Yeah I always get a bit confused when Bastani slags it off as its own entity as in my head they're basically a homogenous blob.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2021, 12:35:43 PM »
Yep, hosting the Observer on the same platform doesn't do the Guardian any favours, as incredible as it may seem the Observer is far far worse.

And if, like me, you only look at the website and not the actual papers there's nothing obviously distinguishing them at all, Rayner's email address being @theobserver.co.uk is all I could see for him, dunno about other Observer articles/writers. As I said I'd forgotten The Observer even existed and just consider everything on there to be the Guardian. 

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2021, 12:36:53 PM »
It wouldn't surprise me at all if they aliased the inboxes so that @theguardian.co.uk worked as well due to this confusion.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2021, 12:48:16 PM »
It surprised me when I read in Private Eye years ago that the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday are considered to be separate papers (they've barely even got different names!), and at the time there was a bitter rivalry between the two editors (Dacre and whoever was editing the MoS, I want to say Geordie someone? That might be wrong) that often led to them running contradictory stories and deliberately undermining each other's takes on issues etc. Needless to say I've not read either but that can't be completely true, otherwise by that logic the MoS would have turned out somewhere left of the Socialist Worker.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2021, 01:16:20 PM »
I'd forgotten about him. Look at his little face. Right next to "gammon" in the dictionary, can't miss it.



His byline photo always made me imagine his eyes sliding down his face, so that's how I prefer to think of him. The melt with the drippy eyes.

The byline photo that always irrationally annoyed me was Jane Merrick and her simper face.

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Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2021, 01:17:06 PM »
Geordie Greig is now Daily Mail editor. Dacre got "booted upstairs" to get him out of the way. I think there is rivalry with the Mail Online too, and a lot of those 'X looking gorgeous in their new etc' pics (when they're plainly not) are wind-ups for the daily mail to see.

Re: Who are the worst writers in The Guardian? [split topic]
« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2021, 01:21:44 PM »
Brain the size of Shropshire. Sensible remainer. A new dawn for the Daily Mail?

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Ah well nevertheless

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