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Alberon

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2021, 10:56:01 AM »
Blue Origin and Dynetics have both filed objections to NASA giving SpaceX the sole contract to develop the moon lander. So the money is on hold until this is resolved.

Meanwhile, there’s a good chance the SN15 test flight will be later today.

Alberon

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2021, 05:24:15 PM »
Yesterday's attempt was abandoned due to weather, but it is gearing up for another attempt in the next hour or so.

Dex Sawash

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2021, 05:29:34 PM »
Best youtube feed?

Alberon

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2021, 05:36:37 PM »
NASAspaceflight.com run this one which is quite good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPNvB5ComFw

If the launch goes ahead SpaceX will almost certainly have their own channel running.

seepage

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2021, 05:44:39 PM »
In the side chat someone called Ernest Galvan has just donated $500!!! wtf?

Alberon

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2021, 05:48:20 PM »
I know. That's not uncommon.

To be fair, NASASpaceFlight does have a good few remote cameras that are inside the evacuation zone so they do spend a fair bit on kit. IIRC one of the cameras, or the solar panel powering it, was taken out by debris from the SN11 explosion.

Alberon

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2021, 10:11:45 PM »
Launch could be in about thirty minutes.

Alberon

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2021, 11:33:23 PM »
Succesful soft landing!

BUT, there is a fire at the base of the rocket.

EDIT: Fire seems to be out. I think they've done it!

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2021, 10:25:50 AM »
I haven’t been following SpaceX developments very closely because as much as I love space exploration, I can’t get over what a monumental prick Elon Musk is.

But am I right that for their lunar landers they’re doing away with egress ladders and replacing them with window-cleaner-style winches?

Blumf

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2021, 12:52:42 PM »
Lovely to see a successful flop and land. It's just astounding how they can get it all working, amazing engineering.

But am I right that for their lunar landers they’re doing away with egress ladders and replacing them with window-cleaner-style winches?

Not checked, but that sounds reasonable. The lander will be a Starship upper stage, which is what they've been testing here. Those are 50m tall[1] with the bottom half being fuel tanks, so the crew will be at least 20-30m off the ground.
 1. Apollo lander was only 7m

Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2021, 04:32:49 PM »

But am I right that for their lunar landers they’re doing away with egress ladders and replacing them with window-cleaner-style winches?

So this'll be a small... what, for a man? Whirr? That's one small whirr for a man?

Alberon

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2021, 05:27:45 PM »
The concept designs look like this-



What's the back-up plan if the winch breaks?

Here's the low-fi mock-ups each competing team made of their astronaut egress systems. The ladder on Dynetics effort is easier than the Apollo Lunar Lander, but the one on Blue Origin is ridiculous. There is no way that would ever be acceptable.




Zetetic

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2021, 05:28:55 PM »

Zetetic

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2021, 05:29:58 PM »
but the one on Blue Origin is ridiculous. There is no way that would ever be acceptable.
Seems more tolerable in 1.62 m/s² gravity.

Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2021, 05:54:05 PM »
Can they gaurantee that the ship won't land on a slope or a rock, big enough to tip it over or otherwise fuck it right up?

Blumf

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2021, 08:06:30 PM »
Seems more tolerable in 1.62 m/s² gravity.

But in a space suit.

ZoyzaSorris

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2021, 08:40:30 PM »
You'd be right pissed off stuck on the moon with the door back to the rocket 30m up in the air above you out of reach. 

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2021, 08:58:04 PM »
It's one giant leap for a man...

beanheadmcginty

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Re: SpaceX Starship
« Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 02:17:34 AM »
That's one small window cleaning job for man

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