The Adam Buxton Podcast Thread II: You're MAI WAIF now

[Tokyo van Ramming]

No mention of the Tommy Tiernan one in between?! Come on, I'm relying on this thread to let me know when there's new ones as I'm too useless to keep track myself.

What listening service are you using?

[Icehaven]

Player FM.

[Drygate]

I need to try and get back into Buxton appreciation mode.

I haven't listened to one for a while and started the Sarah Silverman one but had to stop during the intro as his tweeness was grinding my gears. I usually really like Adam but I feel like he's the living breathing embodiment of privilege, boomerism, and centristness. It wasn't anything he said but just his general manner was a bit grating. Hopefully I can get over my self and get back into it as I did really used to enjoy it.

[popcorn]

Had to cringe a bit at Sarah Silverman's suggestion that renaming the police "community guardians" would fix anything

[Shaky]

I need to try and get back into Buxton appreciation mode.

I haven't listened to one for a while and started the Sarah Silverman one but had to stop during the intro as his tweeness was grinding my gears. I usually really like Adam but I feel like he's the living breathing embodiment of privilege, boomerism, and centristness. It wasn't anything he said but just his general manner was a bit grating. Hopefully I can get over my self and get back into it as I did really used to enjoy it.

Yeah, I found that too with this one but on the other hand, his cosyness has cheered me up a great deal when I've been in a terminal funk. Depends on mood, I guess.

He did say he was nervous during the interview and the editing was implied to be difficult (technical errors etc) - maybe he thought the finshed article came off worse than it did so he overcompensated with the intro.

[kevinq]

I liked the Tommy Tiernan episode, since no one has mentioned it yet. Nothing earth shattering, but they had a nice connection as two cheeky middle aged men with school age children. There was the inevitable cancel culture bit, which at least focused on concrete events in the guest's life this time. Probably it's hard to avoid when their wikipedia article has such a long "Controversies" section.

In a way it felt strange to have so much focus on Tiernan's television work, since I know him much more as a standup and podcaster. I've laughed harder at some of the stories on the Tommy Hector and Laurita show than any other podcast at this stage.

[Icehaven]

I liked the Tommy Tiernan episode, since no one has mentioned it yet. Nothing earth shattering, but they had a nice connection as two cheeky middle aged men with school age children. There was the inevitable cancel culture bit, which at least focused on concrete events in the guest's life this time. Probably it's hard to avoid when their wikipedia article has such a long "Controversies" section.

In a way it felt strange to have so much focus on Tiernan's television work, since I know him much more as a standup and podcaster. I've laughed harder at some of the stories on the Tommy Hector and Laurita show than any other podcast at this stage.

I'm about halfway through it and wasn't really familiar with Tiernan before (if Buckles hadn't mentioned he was the depressed priest in Father Ted I don't think I'd have even been able to picture what he looked like) so I wasn't aware of the holocaust controversy stuff but his take that even when it was happening he felt like it was nothing to do with him was simultaneously incredibly disingenuous and kind of true as well. Don't think I'd be quite so magnanimous if it had lost me an entire tour of the States though but fair enough.

[Mobbd]

Had to cringe a bit at Sarah Silverman's suggestion that renaming the police "community guardians" would fix anything

Yeah, me too. But to her credit it was part of a broader point, which I think was probably correct. She was saying that calling the campaign "defund the police" was only partly accurate and is also aggressive to the point of being counterproductive. She was saying that we need to convert our enemies by appealing to them, not to alienate them further (which is counterproductive) or hope that we can crush them (which is impossible).

I used to go to a lot of Anarchist events. Because I don't have a pierced face, I was sometimes open to suspicion - either of being a nark or simply not being on side. There are more conservative-looking people than me in the world and they might even be sympathetic to "radical" or left-wing causes and we need them. The social barrier, even when it's just aesthetic, does strike me as a problem.

In the case of "defund the police," the idea is to reinvest in social projects proven to reduce crime at source instead of empowering police with military-style materiel and training. We could focus on the positive side of that instead of just a "fuck the police" attitude, which I get but probably isn't helpful beyond a sense or catharsis to people who already hate the rozzers.

[kevinq]

I'm about halfway through it and wasn't really familiar with Tiernan before (if Buckles hadn't mentioned he was the depressed priest in Father Ted I don't think I'd have even been able to picture what he looked like) so I wasn't aware of the holocaust controversy stuff but his take that even when it was happening he felt like it was nothing to do with him was simultaneously incredibly disingenuous and kind of true as well. Don't think I'd be quite so magnanimous if it had lost me an entire tour of the States though but fair enough.

I think Tiernan decided to live and work in Ireland over the past decade or more, and has pretty much disappeared from UK consciousness. He is massive here though.

The holocaust comments, I honestly never really understood what he was getting at. Such a weird and stark thing to read in print. They have to exist in some context, and maybe that recording is still out there. The argument that it was part of a specific improvised moment of a specific performance that was trying to make a point about how art and comedy is interpreted maybe makes the most sense. I can't blame people for getting inflamed when they were presented with them in the media.

[Magnum Valentino]

I can't blame people for getting inflamed when they were presented with them in the media.

Even completely shorn of context by a media with a destructive agenda?

The episode of Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle about context is absolutely essential viewing when it comes to making sense of these situations.

[kevinq]

Even completely shorn of context by a media with a destructive agenda?

The episode of Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle about context is absolutely essential viewing when it comes to making sense of these situations.

well I think that's what I meant to say -- I can't really blame the spokesman for the Holocaust Education Trust who gets presented with a single line of transcript and asked what he thinks. It's the reporters doing the asking that are whipping up the reaction.

[Mobbd]

I think Tiernan decided to live and work in Ireland over the past decade or more, and has pretty much disappeared from UK consciousness. He is massive here though.

When I lived in Canada, I was surprised and delighted to see him billed on the chalkboard outside a pretty regular comedy club. That's living the dream in a way. He's not playing the O2 or any of that shit. He's working steadily, all over the world for all we know. I think that's cool.

For those who don't know him beyond Ted, he's also in Derry Girls by the way.

I can't say I loved his Buckles episode. Regarding the Holocaust material, I was initially impressed by his defense that he comes from a culture with a bleak sense of humour; cultural relativity and all that. But then I realised even Jim Davidson could say that if he wanted to, he being from a culture of racist old bastards. All this might have just resulted from Buckles' line of questioning though: TT seemed pretty chilled out about it and I don't think he has a particular anti-woke axe to grind.

[Icehaven]

It must be pretty old hat to him now too as it happened in 2009.

[wrec]

The section on that controversy on his Wikipedia page reminded me that I don't rate his comedy but I dislike everyone[nb]Alan Shatter because of my deep-seated antisemitism[/nb] mentioned in that section far more than I do Tiernan

[jake thunder]

Buxton has replaced mentioning Bowie in every podcast with mentioning cancel culture instead. Great stuff.

[beanheadmcginty]

Buxton has replaced mentioning Bowie in every podcast with mentioning cancel culture instead. Great stuff.

Probably terrified of Bowie getting cancelled. Probably wouldn't be too difficult to do.

[Icehaven]

Did he, a 51 year old man, really only just realise that Viagra ads are aimed at older men because they're more likely to suffer with erectile dysfunction? Never mind just knowing it anyway, how can someone into comedy not have noticed it's the punchline to half the jokes about old men.

[Poison To The Mind]

He's working steadily, all over the world for all we know.

Tiernan was still touring Australia every couple of years in the last decade, too.

[robhug]

Did he, a 51 year old man, really only just realise that Viagra ads are aimed at older men because they're more likely to suffer with erectile dysfunction? Never mind just knowing it anyway, how can someone into comedy not have noticed it's the punchline to half the jokes about old men.

that wasnt the point - the old blokes aren't suffering from erectile dysfunction its just a natural decrease in your libido as you get older. Some people have a genuine medical need for viagra however there isn't enough money in that so they try and shame the older blokes that they should be shagging more

[Icehaven]

Georgia Pritchett one up yesterday. I'd not heard of her but I've seen some stuff she's written so looking forward to this.

[gilbertharding]

that wasnt the point - the old blokes aren't suffering from erectile dysfunction its just a natural decrease in your libido as you get older. Some people have a genuine medical need for viagra however there isn't enough money in that so they try and shame the older blokes that they should be shagging more

Does viagra even work like that? I'm afraid if I took it, I'd just have a six-hour boner and no idea what I was going to do with it. Especially if it turned out my wife wasn't in the mood either... I mean, I don't have any trouble getting it up whenever I want to, which is about five or six times a year. Asking for a friend, obviously.

[ProvanFan]

I'd just have a six-hour boner and no idea what I was going to do with it.

Go down the high street

[idunnosomename]

Viagra doesn't give you an instant erection, it lets you get and maintain one. You still need to be aroused and the refactory period after ejaculation still applies

[amateur]

phwoar, imo

[Virgo76]

Georgia Pritchett one up yesterday. I'd not heard of her but I've seen some stuff she's written so looking forward to this.

Her book My Mess Is A Bit of a Life is brilliant. So should be good.

[Virgo76]

Minor pedantic criticism.
Adam incorrectly attributes Galaxy Quest's relative box office failure to 9/11 even though it came out two years before.
An honest mistake though.
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[Pink Gregory]

Only listened to the Sarah Silverman one so far out of the latest bunch; had her down as another past-it mush-brained Clintonite liberal but she made a good account of herself, I thought, especially when it came to Buckleses current hobby horse of being #cancelled.

Didn't realise that she'd been around for so long either.

[phantom_power]

Only listened to the Sarah Silverman one so far out of the latest bunch; had her down as another past-it mush-brained Clintonite liberal

I am pretty sure she has been very pro-Bernie on Twitter, to the point of getting criticism for not backing Biden enough I think

[Small Man Big Horse]

Only listened to the Sarah Silverman one so far out of the latest bunch; had her down as another past-it mush-brained Clintonite liberal but she made a good account of herself, I thought, especially when it came to Buckleses current hobby horse of being #cancelled.

Didn't realise that she'd been around for so long either.

I really like Silverman, she's moved on from her (slightly too long) shock period and is now just a great storyteller, her last special A Speck of Dust was her best yet for my liking, and I was really fond of her book The Bedwetter too.

[Mobbd]

her last special A Speck of Dust was her best yet for my liking, and I was really fond of her book The Bedwetter too.

Ooh, and it's on Netflix too. Thanks Smalls, I'll give that a watch.

I agree with the previous three posters. I actually used to enjoy her shock comedy stuff[nb]even laughing at the mischief of that "ch**ks" joke, which was probably wrong[/nb] but it overstayed its welcome, culturally speaking. She's moved in the right direction to her great credit and it strikes me as genuine. I'm sure lots of us here have followed a similar arc in terms of what we say and what we like in comedy.