Four Murders on the front page of the BBC

[BlodwynPig]

A serving Met officer has just been arrested over that woman's disappearance. Eek

Starmer just tweeted: "So glad the Spycops bill was passed so that this individual will have the full protection of the law. Law & Order for Law & Order"

[jobotic]

Yep he can just say he had reason to be believe she was an environmentalist or a trade unionist. He did it for the national interest.

[Paul Calf]

Note that the officer is not named.

In an unusual step, the force has not revealed what the officer has been arrested for, and have not confirmed whether he is known to Ms Everard.

^{https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/sarah-everard-latest-police-officer-arrested-clapham-common-b923199.html}

Yeah, unusual because it's not usually one of their own that's arrested. I mean, I think this should be standard policy - you don't identify suspects or defendants until a guilty verdict - but it's not, is it?

I see this going one of two ways:

1. Released without charge, never named, real perp found/local weirdo fitted up;
2. Goes to trial, full bail granted, found not guilty, fully exonerated, promoted within 12 months.

It's inconceivable that a policeman will be sent to prison.

[Phoenix Lazarus]

It's inconceivable that a policeman will be sent to prison.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-53449491

[Paul Calf]

Sex case copper in prison.

Fucking hell. I mean, he's a scumbag but no-one deserves that.

[Phoenix Lazarus]

Sex case copper in prison.

Fucking hell. I mean, he's a scumbag but no-one deserves that.

He also smashed the leg of a man pulled over for questioning who was offering no resistance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgqfeea4qBw&t=1s

[Buelligan]

Dear god.  I hope he gets his.

[Paul Calf]

Wow.

What a total cunt.

[bgmnts]

PC stands for Pathetic Cunt.

[imitationleather]

The name and photo of the copper are out there now. <spliff>

[Paul Calf]

A neighbour in the road said a police officer lives at the address with his 'chatty' wife and two children. She said: 'They just seemed like a normal, regular family, there was nothing strange about them at all.'

Deffo guilty ;)

[The Bumlord]

The name and photo of the copper are out there now. <spliff>

Bald!

[Dex Sawash]

Shoulders isn't it

[Buelligan]

No, this one doesn't have an aerial.

[Phoenix Lazarus]

Never mind on Sarah Everard.  From now on, Shaun'll sort it all out for London ladies and girls afraid to walk alone.

https://twitter.com/ShaunBaileyUK/status/1369662807759847430

[bgmnts]

Morbius
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And what about boys and men who experience more violence than women?

Its like a law of physics.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Interesting that Shaun doesn't say what he will do to make London safer for women and "girls". I'm sure there are things that can be done but I think these ideas need to come from people.other than Shaun Bailey, in particular women.

Just feels.lile playing party politics in a very tasteless way.

[Phoenix Lazarus]

Body found.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%20sarah%20everard%20body&src=typed_query&f=live

[IsavedLatin]

Is anyone else finding the Sarah Everard case (more than usually) profoundly troubling?

For me, there are personal reasons that I identify quite strongly with her -- she is about my age, she went missing from a well-lit main road in an area I lived in for the duration of my 20s, at nine thirty on a weekday evening. There is also the fact that she's white and middle-class, I suppose, and I've had conversations this week with others where we've wrung our hands that a photogenic middle-class white woman going missing has had huge attention where various young black kids in the same area have not had anything like this outcry.

But I think her disappearance has pretty clearly hit a nerve more widely than just blinkered little me. She was just minding her business, on her way home. And clearly something appalling happened to her.

[Edited for removal of unfortunate typo, thanks Blodwyn.]

[BlodwynPig]

Watch that dodgy typo, isavedlatin.

[Perplexicon]

Is anyone else finding the Sarah Everard case (more than usually) profoundly troubling?

For me, there are personal reasons that I identify quite strongly with her -- she is about my age, she went missing from a well-lit main road in an area I lived in for the duration of my 20s, at nine thirty on a weekday evening. There is also the fact that she's white and middle-class, I suppose, and I've had conversations this week with others where we've wrung our hands that a photogenic middle-class white woman going missing has had huge attention where various young black kinds in the same area have not had anything like this outcry.

But I think her disappearance has pretty clearly hit a nerve more widely than just blinkered little me. She was just minding her business, on her way home. And clearly something appalling happened to her.

Yeah there's something about this that's really hit a nerve. I'd been seeing people local to her sharing the story in my social media feeds for the last week or so, and when the news escalated in the last couple of days there was just a palpable sense of dread behind it. I've been feeling it really keenly, something extraordinarily awful has happened and we're just waiting to find out exactly what. Blech.

[El Unicornio, mang]

Similar feeling about the guy who was stabbed to death by 8 piece of shit gang members while buying orange juice last month, literally zero motive makes it even more terrifying.

As if people don't have enough to worry about these days.

[non capisco]

Yeah there's something about this that's really hit a nerve. I'd been seeing people local to her sharing the story in my social media feeds for the last week or so, and when the news escalated in the last couple of days there was just a palpable sense of dread behind it. I've been feeling it really keenly, something extraordinarily awful has happened and we're just waiting to find out exactly what. Blech.

Yeah, it's horrible, was feeling dread about this one since it was first announced she was missing. Just up the road from me so it could have been any woman I know. I would think nothing of walking from Clapham to Brixton at 9 in the evening, as a man I have the luxury of not even having to calculate that risk.

[Norton Canes]

Watching a few comedy sketches on YouTube just now, every single one ended with a little box in the corner labelled "HUMAN REMAINS FOUND NEAR ASHFORD". Really put the dampeners on.

[Buelligan]

Similar feeling about the guy who was stabbed to death by 8 piece of shit gang members while buying orange juice last month, literally zero motive makes it even more terrifying.

As if people don't have enough to worry about these days.

I may be wrong but I think what many people find disturbing about this crime is that it reminds us of what the motive so often is, she was a woman existing unaware that someone who hated her for it was swimming just below the surface.  Just that.

[El Unicornio, mang]

I may be wrong but I think what many people find disturbing about this crime is that it reminds us of what the motive so often is, she was a woman existing unaware that someone who hated her for it was swimming just below the surface.  Just that.

Oh in that respect they're quite different but I meant regarding Perplexicon's point about how things are reported differently depending on the victim's appearance/background.

[Bazooka]

Missing White(pretty and from a "good" background) Girl Syndrome. Usually assumed to be be dead from the get go.

[Icehaven]

Not nice to consider why they're saying ''human remains found'' rather than the more typical ''a body has been found''.

[flotemysost]

Is anyone else finding the Sarah Everard case (more than usually) profoundly troubling?

For me, there are personal reasons that I identify quite strongly with her -- she is about my age, she went missing from a well-lit main road in an area I lived in for the duration of my 20s, at nine thirty on a weekday evening. There is also the fact that she's white and middle-class, I suppose, and I've had conversations this week with others where we've wrung our hands that a photogenic middle-class white woman going missing has had huge attention where various young black kids in the same area have not had anything like this outcry.

But I think her disappearance has pretty clearly hit a nerve more widely than just blinkered little me. She was just minding her business, on her way home. And clearly something appalling happened to her.

[Edited for removal of unfortunate typo, thanks Blodwyn.]

Re: identifying with the victim - yes, same here. One of my good mates lives on the estate in Clapham where she was last seen, and when I lived in South London I'd have thought absolutely nothing of walking back from her place in the evening - as it is, I've spent a good chunk of my twenties walking home from parties and nights out as the sun comes up, more often than not off my face. Which admittedly isn't necessarily the wisest idea for anyone, but sometimes I do think it's a miracle that nothing really bad has happened to me in those situations. Which is a horrible thing to think.

It reminds me of the Levi Bellfield murders (some of which happened near where I grew up, in fact I knew a sibling of one of the victims - I was in my early teens at the time), and how my school temporarily stopped doing after-school detentions so that no pupils had to walk home in the dark. Or, more recently, an office I worked at a few years ago allowing all the female staff to leave early at one point, because there had been a spate of attacks in the area where someone was grabbing lone women from behind and cutting their throats. I'm not saying they shouldn't have put those measures in place of course, but it's intensely frustrating that they were even needed - that we, as a society, bend to accommodate the fact that just being a woman can kill you.

Re: white, middle-class, photogenic victims, I think one of the things that always happens in these cases is that the perpetrator is painted as a disgusting, pathetic scumbag, an anomaly in our otherwise civilised nation, whereas when it's violence against women in other cultures and/or parts of the world - for instance, the utterly horrifying rapes and murders of women in India for daring to exist on public transport, or honour killings in the UK - it's easy to brush it under the carpet as the product of a backwards, inherently troubled society. Neither attitude is helpful in saving future victims.

[Bazooka]

"he's never done it before"