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Four Murders on the front page of the BBC

Started by amputeeporn, March 07, 2021, 12:22:59 AM

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bgmnts

Has an actual motive been established? I don't follow these stories anymore its too grim.

idunnosomename

Quote from: icehaven on March 11, 2021, 02:33:41 PM
Not nice to consider why they're saying ''human remains found'' rather than the more typical ''a body has been found''.
i thought that at first, but almost certainly because he tried to burn it tbh.

El Unicornio, mang

Quote from: icehaven on March 11, 2021, 02:33:41 PM
Not nice to consider why they're saying ''human remains found'' rather than the more typical ''a body has been found''.

I was curious about that. Usually when you hear that term it's because the body has been undiscovered for years and is just bones, but in this case suggests something more unpleasant.

I knew one of the children of the couple involved in this famous case, which inspired the woodchipper scene in Fargo. None of us knew until it was shown on an episode of Forensic Files and they showed a photo of him as a kid and we realised the names matched up and he had been relocated to Orlando and put in the care of foster parents. Someone broached the topic and he said that he just didn't like to talk about it (understandably).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Helle_Crafts

Icehaven

Quote from: idunnosomename on March 11, 2021, 02:49:33 PM
i thought that at first, but almost certainly because he tried to burn it tbh.

Yes that's what I thought. There's a blackly ironic observation to be made about a policeman doing something like this and still getting caught so quickly. Although even despite that hasn't there still been some issue about it not being taken seriously enough for the first few days?

imitationleather

That copper has been transferred to hospital with head injuries sustained while in custody. Cressida Dick getting handsy and doing some old skool style interrogating?!

To think that an actual policeman thought that burning a body would make all the evidence disappear.

Quote from: Utterdrivel on March 10, 2021, 12:20:26 AM
A serving Met officer has just been arrested over that woman's disappearance. Eek

More should be made out of suspects from a military or law enforcement background turning out to be murderers/serial killers, though I suppose there's little wonder why there isn't.

Quote from: icehaven on March 11, 2021, 02:33:41 PM
Not nice to consider why they're saying ''human remains found'' rather than the more typical ''a body has been found''.

Not something anyone wants to dwell on, but, if the wording suggests what it probably is suggesting, it's exactly the sort of thing that makes me wonder if there were other incidents.

Buelligan

Yes, I agree, that's a very unpleasant possibility.

Quote from: flotemysost on March 11, 2021, 02:37:08 PM
I've spent a good chunk of my twenties walking home from parties and nights out as the sun comes up, more often than not off my face. Which admittedly isn't necessarily the wisest idea for anyone, but sometimes I do think it's a miracle that nothing really bad has happened to me in those situations. Which is a horrible thing to think.

I work (when there isn't a pandemic) in an isolated country restaurant, out there in the wilds, completely on its own.  It's at least 40 mins walk from home (if you're shifting).  There's only one house, the whole way.  Under normal circs I walk back from there, at the end of my shift, which can be anything between 11pm and 2 in the am, five nights a week, rain or shine.  I'm pretty used to it now but I'm still aware of every car that passes in those miles of empty country and still totally ready to do my utmost to kill anyone that gives me any problem whatsoever.  This is not a pleasant way to be.

I remember, once, when I lived in London, walking across Clapham Common and round there very late, missed the last bus and all that.  Man was following me in a car so I went to the cop shop.  Asked them if I could just sit in the waiting room until daybreak.  They told me to fuck off out of it.

Walk quietly and carry a big stick.  That's my advice.

Marner and Me

Agatha Christie considers rewrite been done yet?

BlodwynPig

I've found the best way to deter murderer/rapists is to do a gibbon walk and start screeching like a maniac ape.

Icehaven

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Quote from: Buelligan on March 11, 2021, 05:47:55 PM

I remember, once, when I lived in London, walking across Clapham Common and round there very late, missed the last bus and all that.  Man was following me in a car so I went to the cop shop.  Asked them if I could just sit in the waiting room until daybreak.  They told me to fuck off out of it.

Walk quietly and carry a big stick.  That's my advice.

There was an episode of Disappeared on recently where a young woman had been taken from a restaurant to a police station because she couldn't pay her bill and was behaving generally very erratically, as if she was either on drugs or having some kind of manic episode. The police decided she'd calmed down enough and was free to go in the early hours of the morning, and rather than keep her there until light for her own safety or God forbid even take her home in a car they let her wander off into the dark. It was out in the sticks in California or Nevada or somewhere like that so she had a long walk home through slightly desert-y, remote terrain in pitch dark. Unsurprisingly she was never seen alive again, her body turned up in a canyon about a year later. Despite the fact she was naked it was decided there was no foul play involved.
I'm sure I don't need to add that she was black.

idunnosomename

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on March 11, 2021, 05:28:05 PM
To think that an actual policeman thought that burning a body would make all the evidence disappear.
he may not have been a very good policeman

chveik

Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on March 11, 2021, 05:28:05 PM
To think that an actual policeman thought that burning a body would make all the evidence disappear.

police dramas are there to make us forget they're all thick as pigshit

Quote from: BlodwynPig on March 11, 2021, 05:56:51 PM
I've found the best way to deter murderer/rapists is to do a gibbon walk and start screeching like a maniac ape.

They'll think you're Tim Brooke Taylor's ghost.

badaids

Quote from: idunnosomename on March 11, 2021, 06:26:06 PM
he may not have been a very good policeman

Well on the available evidence I'd say he was Lawful Evil, at best.


jobotic

So the coppers who let their mate off are going to investigated by some other mates?

No case to answer.


Mr Banlon

Quote from: chveik on March 11, 2021, 06:29:54 PM
police dramas are there to make us forget they're all thick as pigshit
About 20 years ago I asked a copper what the most acurate depiction of police on the television was. I was expecting him to say The Bill or something. He said it was Operation Good Guys.

El Unicornio, mang

I would have thought that indecent exposure alone was serious enough to warrant serious investigation but last season a Newcastle fan got his dick out in the stadium and waved it around in full view of the cameras and wasn't arrested, but got tons of support and mentions from fans, players and other teams who thought it was top bantz (including Jack Grealish and West Brom) so this doesn't surprise me a great deal.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on March 11, 2021, 08:35:43 PM
I would have thought that indecent exposure alone was serious enough to warrant serious investigation but last season a Newcastle fan got his dick out in the stadium and waved it around in full view of the cameras and wasn't arrested, but got tons of support and mentions from fans, players and other teams who thought it was top bantz (including Jack Grealish and West Brom) so this doesn't surprise me a great deal.

He's still in charge of the club as well.

idunnosomename

Quote from: Mr Banlon on March 11, 2021, 08:34:21 PM
About 20 years ago I asked a copper what the most acurate depiction of police on the television was. I was expecting him to say The Bill or something. He said it was Operation Good Guys.
he should've said the Fat Sweaty Coppers

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on March 11, 2021, 08:35:43 PM
I would have thought that indecent exposure alone was serious enough to warrant serious investigation but last season a Newcastle fan got his dick out in the stadium and waved it around in full view of the cameras and wasn't arrested, but got tons of support and mentions from fans, players and other teams who thought it was top bantz (including Jack Grealish and West Brom) so this doesn't surprise me a great deal.

There's some odd archaic stuff surrounding that sort of thing isn't there?

That stuff with the naked rambler getting continually arrested but getting off with it because they've tried to classify him as something more sinister like a flasher.

Christ remember when Billy Connolly did some town square streaking for comic relief or something.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Mr Banlon on March 11, 2021, 08:34:21 PM
About 20 years ago I asked a copper what the most acurate depiction of police on the television was. I was expecting him to say The Bill or something. He said it was Operation Good Guys.

Bit like my aunt not bothering with Teachers because she found it all too relatable.

Replies From View

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on March 11, 2021, 08:35:43 PM
I would have thought that indecent exposure alone was serious enough to warrant serious investigation but last season a Newcastle fan got his dick out in the stadium and waved it around in full view of the cameras and wasn't arrested, but got tons of support and mentions from fans, players and other teams who thought it was top bantz (including Jack Grealish and West Brom) so this doesn't surprise me a great deal.

To be fair it would be quite easy to not spot a dick that had been released within a massive stadium.  Keith Allen had a far better cock:container ratio going.

El Unicornio, mang

Quote from: Replies From View on March 11, 2021, 09:19:48 PM
To be fair it would be quite easy to not spot a dick that had been released within a massive stadium.  Keith Allen had a far better cock:container ratio going.

Maybe but this was being broadcast early evening on BBC1 as part of their FA Cup coverage as well. I mean it's arguably preferable to watching what the Newcastle players were doing, but still

jobotic

There's a difference between being a naturist rambler, and even getting your cock out at a stadium and exposing yourself to a woman because it excites you to intimidate her.

Sorry, bit glib.

El Unicornio, mang

There is, but I still wouldn't want to be a woman or someone with a small child standing to next some drunk guy who suddenly got his dick out and started waving it about.

jobotic

True.

Apparently the Met Police have threatened to fine the organiser of the vigil for Sarah Everard.