"At Christmas I no more desire a rose Than wish a snow in May's new-fangled mirth; But like of each thing that in season grows."
Started by Johnny Textface, March 13, 2021, 01:06:42 AM
Quote from: Jockice on March 15, 2021, 08:26:40 AMIron Maiden's Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter. Another one timed to come out when nobody but their devoted fans would buy singles.
Quote from: Jockice on March 14, 2021, 11:13:58 AMI like the verses. I think it's a rare case of them taking the piss out of themselves. I remember reading a piece about it in Socialist Worker calling it 'a call to arms against capitalism' or suchlike. It's not anything of the sort and I could be wrong but I think that's the point.
Quote from: markburgle on March 15, 2021, 10:41:51 AMI thought the verses were just defensive putdowns against their detractors? "Success is an ugly word / Especially in your tiny world" - or is that aimed at themselves?I always thought they were quite ready with the self-deprecation, but maybe not on the records themselves. Next Jet to Leave Moscow is another good example though - "So you played in Cuba did you like it brother? / I bet you felt proud you silly little fucker"
Quote from: markburgle on March 15, 2021, 10:41:51 AMI thought the verses were just defensive putdowns against their detractors? "Success is an ugly word / Especially in your tiny world" - or is that aimed at themselves?
Quote from: idunnosomename on March 17, 2021, 05:35:02 PMI think Rod Smallwood came up with that wheeze.
Quote from: idunnosomename on March 17, 2021, 05:35:02 PMI think Rod Smallwood came up with that wheeze, and not sure if anyone other than the manics replicated it (though maybe some tried and failed?). a lot of post Christmas No. 1s are pretty established or highly promoted new artists who would've got a number one anyway. and I dont really buy the theory "no one buys singles the week after Christmas" (but that is the stated reason why they put it out then) because you know, Christmas money and record vouchers?about the only other weird post-xmas one I can find in the 90s is Chocolate Salty Balls, but that actually came out way before Christmas so I think it must've been a bit of a fluke.also Daughter was actually No. 1 for two weeks, and Masses was only available for like one week and was a non-album track so they were really gunning for that first 2000 no. 1.
Quote from: non capisco on March 25, 2021, 12:07:15 PMAt the time it was the album that put me right off Manic Street Preachers and I never really jumped back on the train afterwards. My memory is that they'd nailed the yearning, anthemic stuff on 'Everything Must Go' and 'TIMTTMY' sounded like an attempt to carry on with that sense of grace under emotional fire that its predecessor captured, but this time the defiance was replaced by weariness. The first Manics album that sounded like they had nothing they wanted to say, coming off the back of two albums where the need to communicate varying forms of acute emotional distress were startling in their urgency. I'd loved 'The Holy Bible' and 'EMG' so much I found it hard to admit to myself at first how bored and boring they sounded ('Tsunami' aside, still love that one). Also, that cover when they're standing about looking beatific (James) or bored (Nicky Wire and Paul Merton) in the middle of a desert was some 'Joshua Tree' bullshit. All that's with the caveat that I haven't listened to that album since it came out and I haven't ever really listened to any of their stuff since. Occasionally a song of theirs will come up on shuffle and I'll be taken aback by what an amazing guitarist and vocalist JDB is so maybe I should do some late period Manics investigating.
Quote from: Tokyo van Ramming on March 24, 2021, 11:49:01 PMLighthouse Family years, look at the cover
Quote from: non capisco on March 25, 2021, 12:07:15 PMAlso, that cover when they're standing about looking beatific (James) or bored (Nicky Wire and Paul Merton) in the middle of a desert was some 'Joshua Tree' bullshit.
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