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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #960 on: April 06, 2021, 01:11:44 PM »
It’s all about the numbers. I remember that group "Women Who Eat On Tubes", posting creepshots of women eating on the London Underground. Lots of posts shaming overweight women and creepy sexual comments about women eating bananas ("She's got talent" etc). Complaints all ignored. Then the group I was in which was taking the piss out of that group got deleted after someone posted porn in it and reported it for containing the very porn which they had posted. Useful feature but one which is sadly ripe for abuse.

I was also in a tiny and daft little anti-UKIP group which got deleted mulitple times by someone buying fake accounts to mass-report it, while Britain First was allowed to stay up for years.

It’s all about the numbers and clicks and advertising, sadly.
I was in an anti-EDL group and it became a running gag how they were always getting deleted because the Tommunists mass reported them. I think they were onto their sixteenth incarnation when I left. Meanwhile, I've reported some horrific antisemitic and racist posts that have been allowed to stand. And i got banhammered for saying 'it's not like X was saying "I hate women"' or words to that effect, because the algorithm doesn't pick up context. It's a joke.
Conventionally women do suffer the same background sexism but surely to a much lesser degree than women who aren't conventionally attractive?

Like, as a fat person I sometimes despise people who are in relatively decent shape complain about being fat or ugly or whatever, even if they do suffer from some form of dysmorphia as a result of societal standards.
I have a friend who does this ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I get she has major self-esteem issues, thanks to her mum, but when you're at least two sizes bigger its really annoying to see someone who has a perfectly normal body moan about how fat she is and call herself a 'gorb' or make pig noises whenever she has the AUDACITY to enjoy food. I know you're talking about yourself, but think about how your fat friends will feel when they see that. Like, what do you think I am, a small planetoid?

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #961 on: April 06, 2021, 01:12:46 PM »
BJam was saying that (1) people might post things online in a way that doesn’t consider longer term ramifications and that (2) it doesn’t make it right to take them and out them elsewhere without the creator’s consent.

Explaining why people do (1) doesn’t negate the ultimate point of (2). We’re all on the same page that (2) is not on, regardless of (1).

That seems a sensible point to me and I agree with it - giving extra context to explain why someone might do something makes sense in context but I haven’t read the thread and really don’t want to get involved.

Oh don't waste your energy Ferris ;)

That is the correct answer though, yes.

Tommunists

HA!

The anti-UKIP group I was in got taken down three times I think. And there were lots of doxxing attempts, people claiming the group was run by a shadowy cabal of "LIBLABCON" strategists, some kind of left-wing terrorist cell, Billy Bragg... anyone left-leaning and with money basically, when in reality the group was just a few random people posting daft things UKIP councillors had posted on Twitter. Amazing to see how it was seen as such a threat, I don't think there were ever more than about 300 people in it and it wasn't even publicly viewable. I got a bit of nastiness myself, from people who couldn't accept that I really was just a postgraduate student who liked to post funny dog videos.

I got this too when I ran a science blog. Homeopaths accusing me of being funded by Big Pharma. Ha, I wish... people are weird.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2021, 01:25:02 PM by Blue Jam »

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #962 on: April 06, 2021, 01:14:11 PM »
I was in an anti-EDL group and it became a running gag how they were always getting deleted because the Tommunists mass reported them. I think they were onto their sixteenth incarnation when I left. Meanwhile, I've reported some horrific antisemitic and racist posts that have been allowed to stand. And i got banhammered for saying 'it's not like X was saying "I hate women"' or words to that effect, because the algorithm doesn't pick up context. It's a joke.

Thats because libtards did culture war and censor everything.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #963 on: April 06, 2021, 01:17:07 PM »
I suppose I'm saying that it did seem unambiguous to me, but maybe I'm missing some details?

You are not missing anything; you can read what Blue Jam said including the bit where she literally says

Granted no-one deserves creepy sexual comments.


Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #964 on: April 06, 2021, 01:21:39 PM »
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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #965 on: April 06, 2021, 01:22:13 PM »
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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #966 on: April 06, 2021, 01:25:11 PM »
Sorry Ferris, but I don't get "people might post things online in a way that doesn’t consider longer term ramifications" from

Honestly I hate these kind of threads (that’s why I’ve been avoiding it) and don’t want to read through and re-litigate who said what and parse each reply for subtext.

I was going off the most recent posts which were as far back as I could bare to go, and that was my conclusion.

I’ll now ejector-seat back out of this thread, like a CaB James Bond.

Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #967 on: April 06, 2021, 01:25:44 PM »
Get back here and fight you coward.

Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #968 on: April 06, 2021, 01:30:52 PM »
Honestly I hate these kind of threads (that’s why I’ve been avoiding it) and don’t want to read through and re-litigate who said what and parse each reply for subtext.

I was going off the most recent posts which were as far back as I could bare to go, and that was my conclusion.

I’ll now ejector-seat back out of this thread, like a CaB James Bond.

Me too which is why I deleted my comment. I do feel that there's no need for others to be so wanky towards Buelligan though.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #969 on: April 06, 2021, 01:37:06 PM »
Me too which is why I deleted my comment.

Also your now deleted comment missed the part of Blue Jams post that I just quoted; you know the part that is key to her not just talking about the person but what happened to her in the context of the thread.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #970 on: April 06, 2021, 01:37:15 PM »
Feel a little responsible for all this animosity cos I bumped the thread. Can't we all just get along, just for this one contentious topic?

I'm still catching up on the latest posts, but if the tone doesn't change, it's getting locked.

Anyway, what did you think would happen (when you dropped a drama bomb in a highly contentious topic)? :-)

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #971 on: April 06, 2021, 01:40:51 PM »
It's alright I'm going to start a thread about Google vs Oracle in a minute and I'm sure that will draw everyone's attention away :)

Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #972 on: April 06, 2021, 01:47:18 PM »
Anyone care to summarise this thread for me, perhaps in a noise?

Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #973 on: April 06, 2021, 01:48:02 PM »
Also your now deleted comment missed the part of Blue Jams post that I just quoted; you know the part that is key to her not just talking about the person but what happened to her in the context of the thread.

It was actually in my 2nd (now deleted) post, the "granted" one.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #974 on: April 06, 2021, 01:51:23 PM »
It was actually in my 2nd (now deleted) post, the "granted" one.

probably useful to keep them together in order to get a fair picture of what was actually said.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #975 on: April 06, 2021, 01:53:37 PM »
Anyone care to summarise this thread for me, perhaps in a noise?

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #976 on: April 06, 2021, 01:55:22 PM »
Anyone care to summarise this thread for me, perhaps in a noise?


Wooarrrggh!

However...




It might be better if this thread is locked anyway. And let the phwoar threads and similar threads die. Latest one's dropped off page 1 of HS art, so let it die.


The drama this fartstorm has caused isn't worth it.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #977 on: April 06, 2021, 01:57:03 PM »
It's alright I'm going to start a thread about Google vs Oracle in a minute and I'm sure that will draw everyone's attention away :)

Who ever wins we lose? Although, I think Oracle lost completely a while ago...

Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #978 on: April 06, 2021, 01:57:34 PM »
Anyone care to summarise this thread for me, perhaps in a noise?


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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #979 on: April 06, 2021, 02:08:52 PM »
Me too which is why I deleted my comment. I do feel that there's no need for others to be so wanky towards Buelligan though.

The same reason that buells is very passive-aggresive to other posters?

Feel a little responsible for all this animosity cos I bumped the thread. Can't we all just get along, just for this one contentious topic?

You bumped the thread? Did you see my postdozy's from ealier on? Some right shrieking/pearl clutching from them I got amount of well thought out replies I got from them which didn't help.

A depressingly predictable reply from one of the people who went combing through a random woman's twitter for proof of... something?
ah bless

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #980 on: April 06, 2021, 02:18:31 PM »

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #981 on: April 06, 2021, 02:20:37 PM »


The anti-UKIP group I was in got taken down three times I think. And there were lots of doxxing attempts, people claiming the group was run by a shadowy cabal of "LIBLABCON" strategists, some kind of left-wing terrorist cell, Billy Bragg... anyone left-leaning and with money basically, when in reality the group was just a few random people posting daft things UKIP councillors had posted on Twitter. Amazing to see how it was seen as such a threat, I don't think there were ever more than about 300 people in it and it wasn't even publicly viewable. I got a bit of nastiness myself, from people who couldn't accept that I really was just a postgraduate student who liked to post funny dog videos.

I got this too when I ran a science blog. Homeopaths accusing me of being funded by Big Pharma. Ha, I wish... people are weird.
A while ago I was in an fb group for the area I lived in at the time. One summer's day there'd been incredibly loud music coming from a shop up the road all day so I glanced at the page to see if there was anything about it, and it turned out it was a cafe having a huge outdoor party (this was before Covid) and there was a row raging on fb between people complaining about the noise and traffic disruption and others saying 'leave them alone, it's only a one-off' etc. I thoughtlessly chucked one comment in about it being a bit anti-social playing music at that volume all day and thought no more of it, only to get notifications almost immediately that some woman (who from what I could gather wasn't actually at the party) had replied to my comment, tagging me to make sure I saw it, and basically slagging me off using information she'd clearly got from my personal fb page, stuff like "if you don't like it fuck off back to Coventry" which I have as my hometown on my profile although I haven't lived there for nearly 20 years. It was bizarre, and she obviously wanted me to know she'd had a good look through my profile, not that I gave a toss as there's no state secrets on there, but reading on she seemed to be doing the same to other people complaining about the party, and frequently accusing them of being racist (it was a Jamaican cafe and most of the guests were black. Presuming it was her in her profile pic she was white herself.) as well. I realised then that's probably why she was rifling through fb profiles, she was looking for evidence of any unsavoury views so she could 'expose' prejudice as the complainer's real motivation rather than not having to listen to thumping music for 12 hours straight. Weird fight to pick, defending a party you aren't at and scouring stranger's fb pages for non-existent evidence that they're racist, but whatever. Worst thing she dug up about me was that I'm from Coventry, so she soon got bored and moved on to someone else but it was still a minor but interesting insight into how some people use their time both on the internet and on this Earth.

Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #982 on: April 06, 2021, 02:22:07 PM »
So... icehaven is from Coventry.

I'll remember that.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #983 on: April 06, 2021, 02:24:08 PM »
The same reason that buells is very passive-aggresive to other posters?

Hey Simnock, I've never been passive aggressive to you, made it plain as a pikestaff, I think you're a rude dimwit that (literally) posts shit.  Those gifs, my life.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #984 on: April 06, 2021, 02:25:15 PM »
The same reason that buells is very passive-aggresive to other posters?

Just plain aggressive at times too. I made the mistake of reading the Labour thread the other day and was a bit shocked by just how often she likes to call people cunts. I've only been called the C-word once on here where someone meant it entirely seriously and it really wasn't nice, I was taken aback by it, that was years ago and I still can't forget how it felt. Maybe Buelligan has just used that word so much it's lost all its shock value to her, but that doesn't mean it's not a very strong insult or that it won't offend and upset others.

And I saw plenty of decent people on there, decent people, people I know in real life and like, getting attacked on there and it really upset me, to the point where I decided to send a few virtual hugs out. I could have defended people in the thread but I was afraid to get involved.

...and then I thought "Why should anyone be afraid? Why does this person who doesn't even like comedy feel so entitled to dictate the rules of a comedy forum? Why are we treading on eggshells around them?

And today? Other people may lie down and take her passive-aggressive behaviour and enable it but that doesn't mean I'm going to. I know obfuscating stupidity when I see it, I know her game and I'm not going to play it.

So yeah, STOP being afraid ;)

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #985 on: April 06, 2021, 02:27:03 PM »

Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #986 on: April 06, 2021, 02:29:02 PM »
To be fair, I thought Buelligan was referring to the actual Phwoar thread rather than this one, but I might be wrong.

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #987 on: April 06, 2021, 02:30:32 PM »
Forensic.

heh. i can accept i don't express myself very well but given the context i think it was clear.

(i have no interest in pursuing this)

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Re: Phwoar thread redux
« Reply #988 on: April 06, 2021, 02:32:12 PM »
Yeah this is just about clashing personalities now, locked.

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