Glinner: Arty Morty and the Glinfinite Transness: The Hateful 8th

[Sonny_Jim]

Quick SGB update.  He's looking up trans-porn again and making himself all giddy, linking to his own post for some reason.  The best bit is the cry for help to all those cool cats on Twitter who think he's a dickhead ('Jesse Singal? Katie Herzog? What do you think?').  It's notable because it features this spectacular /r/selfawarewolves comment underneath:

And they wonder why we think the movement is driven by porn and fetish.

Oh gee, I wonder why you would think it's 'driven by porn and fetish' when your God and Saviour is literally searching up weird trans porn to put on his blog.

Also another dig at Eddie Izzard and toilets, so fill out that square on your card if you have it.  No Ron Jonson square this time though.  Then there's this little gem about a BBC report on puberty blockers:

If the BBC was a restaurant I'd want to speak to the manager over this one.

This just solidifies in my mind he's the kind of prick who won't bring up a problem directly with a person and instead tries to get them fired.  Because he's a bullying prick.

Also some shit about a women who got banned from Medium because 'she was just stating facts'.  I'm not going to link it, but here's a quote from her twitter:

Medium banned me for this, but @4WPub has my back!

I am reviewing 13 years of news articles in the UK and Ireland to compare crimes against trans people with crimes committed *by* trans people.

Spoiler: There's way more trans criminals right now.

Ah yes, because famously when you need statistics for your  witchhunt research journalism you just go looking through papers.  Because that's a highly accurate and unbiased way of getting the data.

Fuckwits.

[Dr Rock]

Someone said he used to tweet about wanking and porn a lot before he went tits up mental - are those tweets still about? I'd be happy to pop them on Mumsnet for example.

[damien]

Incredible when you see what people out in the real world think of him. Comments here are just a catalogue of rage and disgust

https://twitter.com/noah_halpin/status/1379574447485636612?s=21

[phantom_power]

I feel it's reasonable to think that calling gay orientations "adult" is suspicious - considering I have seen parents saying their eight month old daughter is "such a flirt" when she smiles at a man, or saying things like "aww, is that your boyfriend then?" when a male and female toddler are friendly with one another. I remember other girls in primary school having "boyfriends", even though the relationship at that age appeared to consist of telling everyone that this person was your boyfriend. But the culture of it is so incredibly pervasive that people don't notice it and don't think of it when even small children are getting the idea that they should be having (straight) relationships, even though they don't really know what that means. So anyway, if people can deal with the idea of a boy of six having a "girlfriend", there's no real reason why they can't deal with a boy of twelve having a boyfriend.

That's an interesting point actually and I think shows how, for a lot of people, being gay is a sexual thing whereas being straight isn't necessarily. People, meaning homophobes, can separate out straight emotion and sex but cannot do the same for any other type of sexuality, it seems

[Retinend]

A recent update: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/why-im-in-the-gender-fight

Takes issue with "the piece" written for the Irish Independent: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/graham-linehan-how-my-transgender-views-cost-me-my-marriage-40193764.html

Is this "piece" actually that short (which is hilarious, given how much Glinner thinks the journalist "gets it") or is it a paywalled article with a stub as a preview?

[Kankurette]

Ah yes, the old 'trans women are just perverts who like wearing women's underwear' cliche.

But "supporting rights for Palestinians" is not position that will alienate you from your friends and family, even if you attend all the protests and go to all the meetings[nb]Though there is, of course, a common path of radicialisation that starts with the Palestinian issue and ends with allegiance to Hezbollah, Al Quaeda, ISIS and so on[/nb]. In most Muslim families, for example, it is in fact the only conceivable position to take. What's more, the majority of left-wing people would not bat an eyelid at criticism of Israel.

Supporting human rights for Palestinians is perfectly reasonable. Plenty of Jews do. It's no worse than supporting Tibetan or indigenous Australian human rights. It's when you end up joining the likes of Hamas or attacking random Jewish people in revenge for Palestine, whether they're Israeli or not, that it becomes a problem. Like when that old Jewish guy got thrown into the sea.

[Dr Rock]

Linehan admits uncertainty surrounding his finances can be partly linked to his unwillingness to work with Channel 4 until the controversial episode is reinstated in its schedule.

A reluctance to work with the BBC is more recent.

"I won't work with the BBC because the BBC, I think, is grooming children," he claims. "The BBC had a CBeebies programme on recently with a heterosexual couple, but because the bloke identified as a woman they were described to a CBeebies audience, which is toddlers, as lesbians. That's the kind of thing I won't have anything to do with."

This is like how I refused to be the new James Bond because I'm massively against product placement in films.

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

Is this "piece" actually that short (which is hilarious, given how much Glinner thinks the journalist "gets it") or is it a paywalled article with a stub as a preview?

Paywalled.

[Dr Rock]

You can register for free to read it.

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

You can register for free to read it.

yeah but I cannot be arsed. It contains nothing I don't already know.

[Sonny_Jim]

"The BBC had a CBeebies programme on recently with a heterosexual couple, but because the bloke identified as a woman they were described to a CBeebies audience, which is toddlers, as lesbians

This is being completely misrepresented by Graham there (what a surprise).  He's talking about a video that was linked on the @Cbeebies twitter Facebook account.  So a video aimed at adults, as not many toddlers have a fucking social media account.

Source

[drummersaredeaf]

yeah but I cannot be arsed. It contains nothing I don't already know.

That a cunt has gone bananas?

[Ambient Sheep]

Didn't somebody post up a photo of the article a few pages back?

[Jerzy Bondov]

This is being completely misrepresented by Graham there (what a surprise).  He's talking about a video that was linked on the @Cbeebies twitter account.  So a video aimed at adults, as not many toddlers have a fucking twitter account.

Source

Also my toddler, an avid Cbeebies watcher, knows multiple kids with two mums or two dads.

[JaDanketies]

I don't know about you guys but our 18-month-old loves flipping open his smartphone so he can discuss the latest episode of In The Night Garden in real-time. #UpsyDaisyIsACockTease

The guy is so focused on trans issues he thinks you spell QAnon "Quanon".

[madhair60]

mmmm, quanon~

[Zetetic]

Supporting human rights for Palestinians is perfectly reasonable.

To be clear, it was an example from me of a "good cause" which Retinend then picked up.

Am I barking up the wrong tree, though? You do intimate that these topics will, nonetheless, still make people uncomfortable if you bring them up in the wrong setting. But for me that's not an indication that the views are "extreme": a worldly person will not talk politics with someone who wouldn't appreciate such a conversation.

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The true extremists will lack this perspective, and will nurse their wounds by sliding down a path of radicalization, associating with increasingly radical peers exclusively, that ultimately renders that unappreciative audience as an evil abberation.

You deserve a longer, better response and I'll try to put one together later, but:

"Gender critical" talking points and arguably even still out-and-out transphobia are also well within the mainstream British discourse, even if public bodies are outwardly tipped away from these things.

Perhaps the "extremism" of Glinner is rather a mix of both the explicit content of his specific views (e.g. trans rights activism is essentially agitating for paedophilia, allied with conversion therapy) and the mode of his engagement with the topic, and not that the broad strokes sit totally outside the "Overton window" or whatever.

I think is supported by the podcast drama, a bit.

[JaDanketies]

Obviously, she's experiencing a tough time with the layout in terms of the practicalities of bringing up two kids, but, you know, I am around when needed.

What a fucking deadbeat. SHE'S GOT A SUCCESSFUL MEDIA JOB AND YOU'RE UNEMPLOYED. You shouldn't just be around 'when needed'. Fucking failure in every regard. Guess you can't let raising your children get in the way of your 'important' 'journalism'. That you could raise kids until they're teenagers and then just 'be around when needed' after splitting up with your wife is obscene and disgusting. I really feel for his family. Probably more than he does.

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I see no reason to believe that Colm the interviewer is supportive of Graham's views. I would assume that he is confusing rapport with support.

[JamesTC]

The guy is so focused on trans issues he thinks you spell QAnon "Quanon".

I'm pretty sure Glinner is right here. He is a journalist after all.

[Retinend]

You can register for free to read it.

Hm. I just made an account and the article remains apparently two paragraphs long. It seems you need to actually subscribe.

[Dr Rock]

Not for me. Unless you've read three for free before.

[Retinend]

I haven't, so I'm a bit perplexed.

Didn't somebody post up a photo of the article a few pages back?

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edit: can't find it

edit2: thanks for that, JaDanekties

[JaDanketies]

unpaywalled mirror here

[idunnosomename]

yeah I can't find it but someone posted the text before. and we discussed this before

"We are calling it Father Ted: The Final Episode. It is going to finish off the show. The ending we had was only done because Dermot [Morgan] died, so we never got to finish Ted's story. In this, we do finish it."

he seriously cant remember his own sitcom. in Going to America, Ted is finally given his unobtainable goal of leaving Craggy Island, but he's stuck with the guilt of leaving his housemates behind. The ending they gave it is very much an ending, where he finds contentment on the island and there's a series of flashback clips.

Dermot died after filming was wrapped and they had already discarded the rather shitty idea of Ted killing himself. But if Dermot hadn't died and they'd gone with that (presumably it was shot? i dont know) then you certainly wouldnt be able to continue any story.

But the only reason he wants to do Pope Ted is he saw the Book of Mormon made a load of money and he wants to do the same thing. You have no story to tell. Your only idea is cardinals doing a dance because they have long frocks.

[FalknerHinton]

A recent update: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/why-im-in-the-gender-fight

Takes issue with "the piece" written for the Irish Independent: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/graham-linehan-how-my-transgender-views-cost-me-my-marriage-40193764.html

Is this "piece" actually that short (which is hilarious, given how much Glinner thinks the journalist "gets it") or is it a paywalled article with a stub as a preview?

I find it very funny that the picture they've used at the head of that article is a very close crop of this one, also from the Irish Independent.



edit: one day I'll remember how to post images to a forum. Today is apparently not that day. It's this one though https://images.app.goo.gl/LiSXGavNedk6eDYz7

[tomasrojo]

Or you can wait two years and that counts too. Reckon he wants the last one, hope wifey agrees but if she wants a quickie she'll have no trouble getting him on unreasonable behaviour.

Unless they got married in Ireland, I don't know the laws there.

You have to be separated for four of the previous five years to get a divorce in the Republic. It's actually in the constitution, which is absolutely not the correct place for this sort of detail, but in the mid- 90s it was regarded as necessary to bake in this difficulty in order to get the constitutional amendment to pass at all.

No idea where he did get married though.

[Retinend]

I find it very funny that the picture they've used at the head of that article is a very close crop of this one, also from the Irish Independent.

lol

(FTFY)

[GoblinAhFuckScary]

unpaywalled mirror here

I'm seeing double. Four Glinners!

[Sonny_Jim]

Well let's be fair to the editors there, they probably didn't have access to any recent photos of Graham as he's not done any media work recently.

[idunnosomename]

that independent.ie article is interesting to look back on when he's still a cunt, but still semi-coherent

https://archive.md/QRemR