Author Topic: Times really do change, don't they?  (Read 4917 times)

Wet Blanket

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2021, 10:46:51 PM »
I’ve been looking through my stack of Beano and Dandy books from the early 90s and Asian stereotypes seem to have still been fair game at that time. Amazing to me because I’m sure my dad was complaining about everything being too politically correct even then

kalowski

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2021, 10:50:06 PM »
That L Cars strip is unbelievable. Thankfully the recent Government Race Report has demonstrated such views are now in the past.

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2021, 10:53:41 PM »
the payoff for the harmonica subplot was a massive let down

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2021, 11:01:30 PM »
That L Cars strip has NOT aged well, to say the least.

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2021, 12:22:25 AM »
the payoff for the harmonica subplot was a massive let down

To be fair, that's about the least of the things you can pick that strip up on.

Echo Valley 2-6809

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2021, 12:23:15 AM »
In defence of Sparky comic, its lead character for over 200 issues was the eponymous 'Sparky', a black schoolboy getting up to various adventures.

I don't think any other publication was doing anything similar so in a sense it was way ahead of its...  Oh dear.  https://ukcomics.fandom.com/wiki/Sparky_(strip)#

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2021, 12:25:38 AM »
It was still going on in the 90s, there was a Roger the Dodger strip where he pretended to be Chinese and went ‘ah so, ah so’. He dressed up as a Chinese person with a pigtail and mask in another strip and some Chinese people made him eat birds’ nest soup to teach him a lesson.

I remember this strip. Dodgy as fuck.

non capisco

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2021, 12:31:39 AM »
The Krankies had no hesitation in uploading their 'Chinesse Sketch' to YouTube as late as 2016.

purlieu

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2021, 12:34:53 AM »
I'd never considered Walter the Softy as homophobic (although there are clearly elements of it in hindsight), but it did fall into the category of it being ok to bully anyone who was considered in any way nerdy, gentle, or generally not a cunt.
That said, from memory, Walter and his Chums got their revenge on Dennis about as often as the other way around, so it was pitched as a somewhat even fight.

In regards to the the racism in the opening comics, as someone who grew up on Disney films like this, I'm not even the tiniest bit surprised.

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2021, 12:48:33 AM »
The Krankies had no hesitation in uploading their 'Chinesse Sketch' to YouTube as late as 2016.
slitty eye joke got a big laugh eh

COULDNT GET AWAY WITH THAT TODAY. TERRIBLE. WOKE MARXISTS DESTROYING ARE HISTORY.

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2021, 01:23:49 AM »
The BBC ran a report at the time and apparently the Chinesse kids in the audience were laughing the hardest at that, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Mr. I. M Woke.

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2021, 01:46:23 AM »
Gosh just look at the hilarious comedy that's all banned now thanks to PC wokescold cucks

Jokes like illegal immigrants are everywhere, screaming gibberish

and Chinese people have a different eye shape

Comedy gold

Gold I tell you

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2021, 02:03:35 AM »
Edit  - not relevant.

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2021, 02:36:11 AM »
Jesus, I was trying to remember where I saw some heinous anti-asian shit in the Beano and the birds nest soup detail really brought it back. It was definitely that. I remember "forced to eat birds nest soup" being a running joke punchline in several strips. It probably wasn't as common as I remember but it came up more than once. I want to say, Calamity James? But this forum won't want me to besmirch Baxendale.

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2021, 03:05:42 AM »
I think in Roger the Dodger’s case they were trying to catch him out, like ‘you’re not really Chinese, otherwise you’d eat this, aaahhhh.’

I don’t remember any racism in Calamity James.

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2021, 03:11:49 AM »
The implication is that Chinese people eat disgusting things though.

I used to read Whizzer and Chips and (later) Buster. I remember then being fairly decent - Phil Fitt was a black character but his comedy trait was that he was a health nut. Watford Gapp (he's the king of rap) was just a regular guy who had whimsical adventures, IIRC. I suppose being a black guy who "raps" is a bit of a cliche, but....

Mustafa Million was a bit of a stereotype too - a rich Arab. But he used his money to have great fun with all his white mates.

I think there was one about a Chinese guy who was a kung-fu fighter with a Chinese braided queue hairstyle (so about 100 years out of date at least) who biffed up bullies, but I think that might have been an old strip from the 70s revived to fill a gap.

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2021, 09:04:24 AM »


I think there was one about a Chinese guy who was a kung-fu fighter with a Chinese braided queue hairstyle (so about 100 years out of date at least) who biffed up bullies, but I think that might have been an old strip from the 70s revived to fill a gap.

Sounds like Young Foo, originally from Cracker comic in the mid-70s - only he was shaven-headed. The first post in this thread includes two pages of his antics.

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2021, 10:38:29 AM »
The creator of L Cars in Sparky seemed to have a thing about illegal immigrants.  He did at least one other story featuring them.




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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2021, 10:41:59 AM »
That said, from memory, Walter and his Chums got their revenge on Dennis about as often as the other way around, so it was pitched as a somewhat even fight.

Yes but did Walter ever start the shit, or go looking for aggro with Dennis The Cunt?

purlieu

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2021, 12:36:40 PM »
Sometimes, yeah, although obviously the implication is that Dennis and his mates started the feud in the first place.

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2021, 01:03:06 PM »
Jesus, I was trying to remember where I saw some heinous anti-asian shit in the Beano and the birds nest soup detail really brought it back. It was definitely that. I remember "forced to eat birds nest soup" being a running joke punchline in several strips. It probably wasn't as common as I remember but it came up more than once. I want to say, Calamity James? But this forum won't want me to besmirch Baxendale.

Calamity James was a creation of the somewhat Baxendale influenced Tom Paterson, not Baxendale himself.

idunnosomename

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2021, 01:08:44 PM »
i admit i laughed at the turban setup because it was so contrived

Echo Valley 2-6809

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2021, 01:12:16 PM »
Sounds like Young Foo, originally from Cracker comic in the mid-70s - only he was shaven-headed. The first post in this thread includes two pages of his antics.

Young Foo was in Cracker and then The Beezer after they merged, not Buster.

I still think "forced to eat Bird's Nest Soup" is a funny phrase though, and given what it involves I won't be falling over myself to feel bad about it.

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2021, 01:39:30 PM »
Many Chinese people I know think Britain's favourite dish is Fish Head Pie, so it evens out.

kalowski

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2021, 01:58:09 PM »
Young Foo was in Cracker and then The Beezer after they merged, not Buster.

I still think "forced to eat Bird's Nest Soup" is a funny phrase though, and given what it involves I won't be falling over myself to feel bad about it.
Bird's Nest Soup and Shark Fin Soup (ideally, with a fin poking out the top)

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2021, 01:59:49 PM »
Getting a bit off-topic here, but Calamity James is a good example of something I really enjoyed as a child, but find quite grim and nasty as an adult. That had more to do with sensitivities changing with age than social progress though, I think. See also: Don Bluth films.

Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2021, 02:44:35 PM »
Getting a bit off-topic here, but Calamity James is a good example of something I really enjoyed as a child, but find quite grim and nasty as an adult. That had more to do with sensitivities changing with age than social progress though, I think. See also: Don Bluth films.
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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2021, 03:32:39 PM »
Quote from: Mister Six link=topic=86021.msg4511367#msg451136

I used to read Whizzer and Chips and (later) Buster. I remember then being fairly decent - Phil Fitt was a black character but his comedy trait was that he was a health nut.

...and a tiresome, fat-shaming prick, it seems?








Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #58 on: April 03, 2021, 03:45:59 PM »
Also from the Sparky




Jockice

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Re: Times really do change, don't they?
« Reply #59 on: April 03, 2021, 04:38:43 PM »
Wonder what the fuzzy-wuzzies thought about all this.

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